If people weren’t greedy and trying to earn a dollar they wouldn’t create financial products, manufacture good, or build anything. At the end of the day, greed/money and innovation drive the engines of capitalism.
“Government should create the conditions for civil society to flourish and the private sector to innovate. Government should provide a SAFETY NET for when people try and fail. Government should uphold the rule of law and the sanctity of contracts so that businesses and consumers feel confident in the future. BUT GOVERNMENT CANNOT CREATE PROSPERITY. IT CAN ONLY REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH.”
The President would be wise to fully understand this statement.
You cannot give wealth without earning it to one man without taking from another who did earn the wealth.
to mention that government also has a role to maintain a fair and honest playing field for private market competitors. But of course any time lawmakers try to change the rules to make them fair for everyone, they are accused of trying to redistribute wealth by people like Sarah. So the Wall Street barons continue to rake in billions that far outstrip whatever contribution they make to their own companies or the economy, and Main Street is left to feast on the crumbs. America used to be about opportunity for all; it is now about greed and opportunity for the few who have already made it.
Move to France where you are guaranteed a job at age 25, They currently are rioting in the streets because the government pension is supposed to go from age 60 to age 62. Oh my how terrible.
Larry, I suppose you still believe we are better off with Mr. Socialist Obama than Bush. By the way the reason for the financial collapse was mortgage default swaps and no oversight of Fannie and Freddie, which your buddy Bwarney Fwank and Countrywide Chris Dodd created. By the way Bwarney Fwanks boyfriend works for Fannie Mae.
The quote I used was from the article itself not mine. So I certainly do not believe in the same regulation that you do. which is redistributive social justice. Larry stop watching Rachael Maddow on MSNBC. You would be better served.
Come on November 2, and 2012! America just cant wait any longer!
Your talking points are stright from (the article) as well as Fox mis-information station.
When our government gives tax breaks to businesses to move jobs and work out of the USA then the “free market” will not help America prosper. Putting Americans to work is how America prospered… but instead of reinvesting in their own businesses, companies are taking personal profits… not like it use to be when our country was #1. Interesting that the corporations (and the 1% wealthiest people) couldn’t find any money to hire workers or pay health benefits but they sure have found their checkbook for ANNONYMOUS republican contributions… I think it’s called bastardization of intelligence..
Nan, The following is cut and copied from the this article we are bloging about. That is what I was saying. not my talking points, but that of the author of this article.
Now with regards to the rest of your emotional outburst of factless ridicule. You and Larry should move to France if you want socialism. Dont get mad, you might be able to retire at age 62, if you hurry up and get over there and protest with the rest of your comrads.
Seems to me they are a little sensitive with politics these days. Probably the likelyhood of them getting their A*s kicked next tuesday when America wakes up and serves them a cold dish of reality of where the public is now on Socialism and Obama’s vision of Social Justice.
I too believe in free markets. But that’s not what we have today. We have rigged markets– markets rigged in favor of the already rich and powerful. Rigged in favor of Wall Street over Main Street. Corporate politics rigged in favor of the few who place their own wealth ahead of the interest of our country. What is the tipping point for you? Is it when the top 1% control 30% of all wealth? 40%? 50%? Unless you are among those top 1%, many of whom were born into their luxury, you are kidding yourselves that your future and that of your children will be better if things don’t change. Free markets, yes. Rigged markets, no! That is not America. Sarah, they’ve got you right where they want you– working for them, carrying their water and expecting somehow a little will trickle down for you and your children. I believe in democracy and free markets. I own my own small business. What do you believe in Sarah?
Yes Larry, the average income per person in a country has a tremendous effect on the size and scope of the middle class, any idea that it doesnt show’s your mental capacity for understanding of statistics and your ability to be swayed by other liberal slanted polls or made up statistics that really do not reflect reality. But that really does not surprise me, as you are a democrat and after reading any of your prior posts.
You cant argue logic, reason, facts or accountability with a liberal.
Larry, Make sure you get out and vote next Wed. LOL… Just a try, I thought that maybe you would believe that as you believe everything you see on MSNBC, CNN or your left wing radical sources of information.
Your whole statement is an oxymoron, Lets get this right. You are a free market capitalist but you think that the market should redistribute to the masses so they can become the top 1%. Stop it with the class warfare. My children will at least have an opportunity to succeed here in a real free market capitalist society. Larry, I dont know if you know this but the United States has the highest amount of middle class wealth in the world and the highest standard of living of all industrialized nations. How because we have not allowed ourselves to surender to the ideas of socialist like Michael Moore, George Soros, Woodrow Wilson, and the greedy lazy idea that you can steal your own wealth from someone else who has earned it. That is the difference between you and I, I believe that you earn your own wealth and you believe that someone in the top 1% should give it to you.
YOU ARE NOT A FREE MARKET CAPITALIST IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENTS/ RANTS ABOUT THE WEALTHIEST’S RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE THEIR WEALTH TO YOU.
I own my own business as well, 24 employees and 3 million in revenues and only held back by the hope and change that no one can believe in anymore.
You say you own your own small business, I would be willing to bet it is very small boutique with less than 3 employees and revenues of less than 500K. Why because like all liberals, you believe that all of your success depends on others to provide it for you. That is the recipe for finger pointing disaster in business and our whole country.
From a pure historical perspective there never has been or ever will be an flurishing economic society where the wealth is retained by the bottom performers of society. My point is this, you will always have the 1%-3% of people that you resent create a middle class and the higher that 1% – 3% lives means the higher the middle class can attain because they work for and sell their wares to this group. Poor people do not buy cars, yachts, employ others or even pay any taxes which I know you want to go up.
As I stated if you want to see and join in a society which redistributes the wealth from the top to the bottom, You should move to France where you can retire at 62 and eat bread and wine all day. By the way they are not very productive there so you might have to wait months for any service around your house as the unions are all on strike or have any medical treatments done because you will be put on an Obamacare like waiting list.
Good luck with your bottom up social economic engineering system. It has never ever worked in the history of mankind.
The main reason the top 1% continue to grow while others don’t has nothing to do with free markets or with them earning it; it has to do with rigged markets. Also, the U.S. no longer has the biggest middle class and the middle class we have is shrinking every year while those at the top continue to take more. Sarah, your passion is admirable but but you might want to check out a few facts about the middle class and how it is faring sometime.
My business generates $4.8 million with fewer employees (19) than you employ, so I don’t need your lectures on management. Your assumptions about me and my business are conjured out of thin air and your right-wing political correctness and are just as baseless as your political and economic rants. Have a good day. I’m off to make more money than you today:) You betcha’!
Too funny and so false. My assumptions are mine and still the same, As soon as someone states such things that contradict themselves as much as you have. I find it hard to believe anything further from such an idividual. Sorry Larry, your not just a person spews oxymoron statements one after the other, you have a very distorted view of reality.
I said industrialized nations. Here is the list that is created out of “thin air”, You will notice the other countries are more of a resort areas or tiny countries with less than 5 million citizens, not industrialized nations with large populations like the US, Russia, China, France, UK. Etc.
Gross national income per capita 2009, Atlas method and PPP
Purchasing
Atlas power parity
methodology (international
Ranking Economy (US dollars) Ranking
1 Monaco 203,900
2 Liechtenstein 113,210
3 Norway 86,440
4 Luxembourg 74,430
5 Channel Islands 68,610
6 Qatar ..
7 Bermuda ..
8 Denmark 58,930
9 Switzerland 56,370
10 Kuwait 43,930
11 Isle of Man 49,310
12 San Marino 50,670
13 United Arab Emirates ..
14 Netherlands 49,350
15 Sweden 48,930
16 Cayman Islands ..
17 United States 47,240
18 Austria 46,850
19 Finland 45,680
20 Macao SAR,
Larry I dont read liberal propaganda, I just look at facts.
THE TEA BAGGERS JUST KICKED THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR LIBERAL CONGRESSMEN. NET GAIN 63 IN THE HOUSE AND 6 IN THE SENATE. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO 1931 BEFORE ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAS HAPPENED.
If people weren’t greedy and trying to earn a dollar they wouldn’t create financial products, manufacture good, or build anything. At the end of the day, greed/money and innovation drive the engines of capitalism.
“Government should create the conditions for civil society to flourish and the private sector to innovate. Government should provide a SAFETY NET for when people try and fail. Government should uphold the rule of law and the sanctity of contracts so that businesses and consumers feel confident in the future. BUT GOVERNMENT CANNOT CREATE PROSPERITY. IT CAN ONLY REDISTRIBUTE WEALTH.”
The President would be wise to fully understand this statement.
You cannot give wealth without earning it to one man without taking from another who did earn the wealth.
Please keep your political commentary out of this web site. It is not relevant and I, for one, don’t want to read it.
to mention that government also has a role to maintain a fair and honest playing field for private market competitors. But of course any time lawmakers try to change the rules to make them fair for everyone, they are accused of trying to redistribute wealth by people like Sarah. So the Wall Street barons continue to rake in billions that far outstrip whatever contribution they make to their own companies or the economy, and Main Street is left to feast on the crumbs. America used to be about opportunity for all; it is now about greed and opportunity for the few who have already made it.
Move to France where you are guaranteed a job at age 25, They currently are rioting in the streets because the government pension is supposed to go from age 60 to age 62. Oh my how terrible.
Larry, I suppose you still believe we are better off with Mr. Socialist Obama than Bush. By the way the reason for the financial collapse was mortgage default swaps and no oversight of Fannie and Freddie, which your buddy Bwarney Fwank and Countrywide Chris Dodd created. By the way Bwarney Fwanks boyfriend works for Fannie Mae.
The quote I used was from the article itself not mine. So I certainly do not believe in the same regulation that you do. which is redistributive social justice. Larry stop watching Rachael Maddow on MSNBC. You would be better served.
Come on November 2, and 2012! America just cant wait any longer!
Sorry Sarah,
Your talking points are stright from (the article) as well as Fox mis-information station.
When our government gives tax breaks to businesses to move jobs and work out of the USA then the “free market” will not help America prosper. Putting Americans to work is how America prospered… but instead of reinvesting in their own businesses, companies are taking personal profits… not like it use to be when our country was #1. Interesting that the corporations (and the 1% wealthiest people) couldn’t find any money to hire workers or pay health benefits but they sure have found their checkbook for ANNONYMOUS republican contributions… I think it’s called bastardization of intelligence..
…we’ve got high, apple pie in the sky hopes!!”
Nan, The following is cut and copied from the this article we are bloging about. That is what I was saying. not my talking points, but that of the author of this article.
Now with regards to the rest of your emotional outburst of factless ridicule. You and Larry should move to France if you want socialism. Dont get mad, you might be able to retire at age 62, if you hurry up and get over there and protest with the rest of your comrads.
Seems to me they are a little sensitive with politics these days. Probably the likelyhood of them getting their A*s kicked next tuesday when America wakes up and serves them a cold dish of reality of where the public is now on Socialism and Obama’s vision of Social Justice.
Oh but read this article, Things are looking up.
I too believe in free markets. But that’s not what we have today. We have rigged markets– markets rigged in favor of the already rich and powerful. Rigged in favor of Wall Street over Main Street. Corporate politics rigged in favor of the few who place their own wealth ahead of the interest of our country. What is the tipping point for you? Is it when the top 1% control 30% of all wealth? 40%? 50%? Unless you are among those top 1%, many of whom were born into their luxury, you are kidding yourselves that your future and that of your children will be better if things don’t change. Free markets, yes. Rigged markets, no! That is not America. Sarah, they’ve got you right where they want you– working for them, carrying their water and expecting somehow a little will trickle down for you and your children. I believe in democracy and free markets. I own my own small business. What do you believe in Sarah?
Pssst…Sarah… take down your post; it’s embarrassing. Income per capita is NOT an indicator of middle class.
Yes Larry, the average income per person in a country has a tremendous effect on the size and scope of the middle class, any idea that it doesnt show’s your mental capacity for understanding of statistics and your ability to be swayed by other liberal slanted polls or made up statistics that really do not reflect reality. But that really does not surprise me, as you are a democrat and after reading any of your prior posts.
You cant argue logic, reason, facts or accountability with a liberal.
Larry, Make sure you get out and vote next Wed. LOL… Just a try, I thought that maybe you would believe that as you believe everything you see on MSNBC, CNN or your left wing radical sources of information.
Your whole statement is an oxymoron, Lets get this right. You are a free market capitalist but you think that the market should redistribute to the masses so they can become the top 1%. Stop it with the class warfare. My children will at least have an opportunity to succeed here in a real free market capitalist society. Larry, I dont know if you know this but the United States has the highest amount of middle class wealth in the world and the highest standard of living of all industrialized nations. How because we have not allowed ourselves to surender to the ideas of socialist like Michael Moore, George Soros, Woodrow Wilson, and the greedy lazy idea that you can steal your own wealth from someone else who has earned it. That is the difference between you and I, I believe that you earn your own wealth and you believe that someone in the top 1% should give it to you.
YOU ARE NOT A FREE MARKET CAPITALIST IF YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE YOUR PREVIOUS STATEMENTS/ RANTS ABOUT THE WEALTHIEST’S RESPONSIBILITY TO GIVE THEIR WEALTH TO YOU.
I own my own business as well, 24 employees and 3 million in revenues and only held back by the hope and change that no one can believe in anymore.
You say you own your own small business, I would be willing to bet it is very small boutique with less than 3 employees and revenues of less than 500K. Why because like all liberals, you believe that all of your success depends on others to provide it for you. That is the recipe for finger pointing disaster in business and our whole country.
From a pure historical perspective there never has been or ever will be an flurishing economic society where the wealth is retained by the bottom performers of society. My point is this, you will always have the 1%-3% of people that you resent create a middle class and the higher that 1% – 3% lives means the higher the middle class can attain because they work for and sell their wares to this group. Poor people do not buy cars, yachts, employ others or even pay any taxes which I know you want to go up.
As I stated if you want to see and join in a society which redistributes the wealth from the top to the bottom, You should move to France where you can retire at 62 and eat bread and wine all day. By the way they are not very productive there so you might have to wait months for any service around your house as the unions are all on strike or have any medical treatments done because you will be put on an Obamacare like waiting list.
Good luck with your bottom up social economic engineering system. It has never ever worked in the history of mankind.
The main reason the top 1% continue to grow while others don’t has nothing to do with free markets or with them earning it; it has to do with rigged markets. Also, the U.S. no longer has the biggest middle class and the middle class we have is shrinking every year while those at the top continue to take more. Sarah, your passion is admirable but but you might want to check out a few facts about the middle class and how it is faring sometime.
My business generates $4.8 million with fewer employees (19) than you employ, so I don’t need your lectures on management. Your assumptions about me and my business are conjured out of thin air and your right-wing political correctness and are just as baseless as your political and economic rants. Have a good day. I’m off to make more money than you today:) You betcha’!
Too funny and so false. My assumptions are mine and still the same, As soon as someone states such things that contradict themselves as much as you have. I find it hard to believe anything further from such an idividual. Sorry Larry, your not just a person spews oxymoron statements one after the other, you have a very distorted view of reality.
I said industrialized nations. Here is the list that is created out of “thin air”, You will notice the other countries are more of a resort areas or tiny countries with less than 5 million citizens, not industrialized nations with large populations like the US, Russia, China, France, UK. Etc.
Gross national income per capita 2009, Atlas method and PPP
Purchasing
Atlas power parity
methodology (international
Ranking Economy (US dollars) Ranking
1 Monaco 203,900
2 Liechtenstein 113,210
3 Norway 86,440
4 Luxembourg 74,430
5 Channel Islands 68,610
6 Qatar ..
7 Bermuda ..
8 Denmark 58,930
9 Switzerland 56,370
10 Kuwait 43,930
11 Isle of Man 49,310
12 San Marino 50,670
13 United Arab Emirates ..
14 Netherlands 49,350
15 Sweden 48,930
16 Cayman Islands ..
17 United States 47,240
18 Austria 46,850
19 Finland 45,680
20 Macao SAR,
is 19 employees & 4.8 million supposed to be alot?
That was a pretty “classy” response.
I think this idiot meant 4.8 million in premiums. not revenue. LOL….
You’re the voice of reason. When are the American people going to take their blinders off?
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/02/opinion/02herbert.html?_r=1&src=me&ref=homepage
Larry I dont read liberal propaganda, I just look at facts.
THE TEA BAGGERS JUST KICKED THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR LIBERAL CONGRESSMEN. NET GAIN 63 IN THE HOUSE AND 6 IN THE SENATE. YOU HAVE TO GO BACK TO 1931 BEFORE ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAS HAPPENED.
READ THE NEWS PAPERS LARRY!
Larry, AKA LJ… LOL….