This is really scary stuff. All the previous media reports went on about how difficult it is to catch Ebola, yet those who have cared for these patients don HazMat suits. Supposedly it is not an airborne virus and is spread through coming into contact with an infected person’s bodily fluids. Okay, so does that mean if you get one drop of blood, sweat, vomit, etc on you and take longer than 1 minute to wash your hands, you could be infected? If it is that easy to contract in spite of all the protocols, then I think the CDC has GROSSLY understated the threat here. I wish the media would stop spreading the fear and start spreading some facts.
From what I understand, there has to be an opening for the virus to enter. A cut, eyes, nose, mouth, etc. They believe there was a break in protocol while removing the protective gear that caused this health worker to get the virus.
GenX, There are apparently several strains. I think the CDC & Government have underestimated how easily people can get this deadly virus and I think most hospitals are ill equipped to deal with it. The smallest slip in protocol, handling protective wear etc and a person can get it.
I agree with you, GenX…no one really seems to know what they are talking about.
And while I can appreciate this particular nurse not wanting her name released….let’s be explicit in explaining how she got it then. My first thoughts were she was a nurse that treated him at the hospital that turned him away. That would mean she wasn’t wearing a hazmat suit. If that’s incorrect, and she was wearing a hazmat suit, then what exactly was her slip up in protocol that led to her contracting the disease?
Nebraskan, he returned to the same hospital by ambulance as the one that turned him away 2 days before. Being in the area, I haven’t heard that she saw him that first time or not. I would think not. They are using the a 24-bed ICU unit for care of him and the new nurse that’s infected. I would imagine he only saw ER people.
AND, he did NOT TELL them he had been exposed, only that he had recently been in Liberia. I originally heard that he assisted with some cadaver disposal, now I’m hearing he helped a pregnant neighbor. Not sure which, or if both, are true.
They are still looking at what/which protocol may have been broken as she wasn’t aware of any she broke.
They were very clear that these protocols are very complicated and require lots of training and very clear that the protocol break was accidental. They are also looking at 2 procedures that to guage whether the benefits are worth the risk in the later stages. Dialysis and breathing tubes.
Did you also know that the Liberian guy who died had a “DNR” (or “Do Not Ressusitate”) order in place?
Libby – Not sure why you got thumbed down. That’s exactly the what they’ve been quoting throughout the last couple of weeks. Not sure ultimately if it will be correct when using the better than 20/20 vision of “hind-sight”. Maybe the 2 don’t believe it?
Since 2008 Federal spending has increased 20+% per the Office of Management and Budget. Health and Human Services has increased 35+% and is 60+% bigger than Defense.
Looks like states not named Texas may be at least better off than the aforementioned. I acutally saw the director of hospital say they let the nurse fly because the CDC didn’t say they shouldn’t not let that person fly. Vulture Capitalism took over this hospital and self-regulation fails again. I’m sure this hospital doesn’t want “government interference” but when they get called out on letting one of their nurses potentially infect who knows how many, they play the “well the gov’t didn’t tell us not to” card. Precious.
This is really scary stuff. All the previous media reports went on about how difficult it is to catch Ebola, yet those who have cared for these patients don HazMat suits. Supposedly it is not an airborne virus and is spread through coming into contact with an infected person’s bodily fluids. Okay, so does that mean if you get one drop of blood, sweat, vomit, etc on you and take longer than 1 minute to wash your hands, you could be infected? If it is that easy to contract in spite of all the protocols, then I think the CDC has GROSSLY understated the threat here. I wish the media would stop spreading the fear and start spreading some facts.
From what I understand, there has to be an opening for the virus to enter. A cut, eyes, nose, mouth, etc. They believe there was a break in protocol while removing the protective gear that caused this health worker to get the virus.
GenX, There are apparently several strains. I think the CDC & Government have underestimated how easily people can get this deadly virus and I think most hospitals are ill equipped to deal with it. The smallest slip in protocol, handling protective wear etc and a person can get it.
I agree with you, GenX…no one really seems to know what they are talking about.
And while I can appreciate this particular nurse not wanting her name released….let’s be explicit in explaining how she got it then. My first thoughts were she was a nurse that treated him at the hospital that turned him away. That would mean she wasn’t wearing a hazmat suit. If that’s incorrect, and she was wearing a hazmat suit, then what exactly was her slip up in protocol that led to her contracting the disease?
Nebraskan, he returned to the same hospital by ambulance as the one that turned him away 2 days before. Being in the area, I haven’t heard that she saw him that first time or not. I would think not. They are using the a 24-bed ICU unit for care of him and the new nurse that’s infected. I would imagine he only saw ER people.
AND, he did NOT TELL them he had been exposed, only that he had recently been in Liberia. I originally heard that he assisted with some cadaver disposal, now I’m hearing he helped a pregnant neighbor. Not sure which, or if both, are true.
They are still looking at what/which protocol may have been broken as she wasn’t aware of any she broke.
They were very clear that these protocols are very complicated and require lots of training and very clear that the protocol break was accidental. They are also looking at 2 procedures that to guage whether the benefits are worth the risk in the later stages. Dialysis and breathing tubes.
Did you also know that the Liberian guy who died had a “DNR” (or “Do Not Ressusitate”) order in place?
Libby – Not sure why you got thumbed down. That’s exactly the what they’ve been quoting throughout the last couple of weeks. Not sure ultimately if it will be correct when using the better than 20/20 vision of “hind-sight”. Maybe the 2 don’t believe it?
Yet you thumb me down for saying the exact same thing. Bitter much?
Since 2008 Federal spending has increased 20+% per the Office of Management and Budget. Health and Human Services has increased 35+% and is 60+% bigger than Defense.
Looks like states not named Texas may be at least better off than the aforementioned. I acutally saw the director of hospital say they let the nurse fly because the CDC didn’t say they shouldn’t not let that person fly. Vulture Capitalism took over this hospital and self-regulation fails again. I’m sure this hospital doesn’t want “government interference” but when they get called out on letting one of their nurses potentially infect who knows how many, they play the “well the gov’t didn’t tell us not to” card. Precious.