Antidotes on the other side are probably more frequent. Yes the system is changing. Lawyers and courts have liberalized the system a lot so many (especially certain states like CA) receive benefits or over-benefits, that make it more expensive (not sure where they came up with it being cheaper). So businesses and legislatures have fought back by lowering benefits. The system should be made much more objective and benefits should be adequate and guaranteed, and lawyers and doctors should mot be able to make a huge living off the system. I also don’t agree with opt out laws.
1. One of the injured workers profiled was in ND, which is a monopolistic state. In other words, the injured worker was failed by a single payer system which tried to keep costs down by not offering the better treatment which costs more.
2. A much larger problem is the large amount of workers who work “off the books” in the underground economy and thus are not covered by WC, SSDI or any other safety net. All WC systems could afford to offer better benefits if everyone was in the system.
Since it is politically incorrect to rail against the “undocumented” under ground economy where there is nothing, WC is an easy target. However, have WC even in a State with the smallest benefits, is much better than having nothing.
I find it odd that people complain about comp benefits being stingy, but not about the underground economy where comp benefits are non existent.
Boca Condo: off the books payroll doesn’t mean no coverage. The worker is injured and will be paid, all he has to prove is he was paid. Payroll is a rating tool not a coverage tool. At least that’s what happens in my state. so it’s even harder on the system.
THis was my response to the guy who thinks we help so many on comp that its ok to harm a few, and let them fall through the cracks. NO WORKER FALLING THROUGH THE CRACK’S IS ACCEPTABLE.
WORKERS EVEN ONE, FALLING THROUGH THE CRACK, WAS NEVER PART OF THE BARGAIN, NOR SHOULD IT BE NOW.
Am I not damaged enough for you and your friends yet? AM I not catastrophic enough yet for my frivolous grand bargain to be honored as well as 30 years of labor?
NO WORKERS SHOULD BE BEING LEFT BEHIND EVER. THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR BARGAIN CALLED FOR. SO FOLKS WHO SAY SOME HARM IS OK FOR ALL THE GOOD WE DO ARE ASS HATES TRYING TO HOLD ON TO THE PROFITS OF A FEW WHILE THE MAJORITY SUFFER AND ACTUALLY ARE BEING DEFRAUDED ON A SNIFF AND GRIN IN MANY CASES AND NOT THE OBJECT FACTS THAT WE ARE ALL LEFT TO FIGHT FOR IN A NO FAULT SYSTEM.
NO WORKERS LEFT BEHIND IS ACCEPTABLE FOR IS JUST A LITTLE FRAUD ACCEPTABLE? OR JUST A LITTLE FRIVOLOUS CIVIL RIGHT VIOLATIONS AT THE BED SIDE THAT TAKES FOLKS YEARS TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST TO GET JUSTICE IF THEY EVER DO, REALLY EVER GOING TO BE ACCEPTABLE TO THOSE BEING HARMED INTENTLY FOR A FEW TO PROFIT? ON THOSE GREAT PRIVATE EQUITY HEDGE FUNDS? JUST ASKING.
i was injured with a spinal injury but the compensation fund in South africa declared this as a 30 % disability and tried to get away but i have laid a objection which they ruled in their favour . I have appealed and engaged a attorney to follow up .
The portion of the report I heard mentioned a combination of low benefits (resulting in inadequate wage replacement) and liberal access (resulting in undeserved benfits). Too much of the political analysis looks only at costs or only at benefits instead of getting adequate benefits to the deserving people.
Did anyone pick up on the 4.4% reduction in eligible WC in 2009. Let’s harken back to the economic actions in 2008 and the subsequent shrinkage of the economy with double digit unemployment that followed and lasted for many months. I am honestly surprised that the reduction was ONLY 4.4% based on my what my clients experienced…but no notations were made to other, impactful possibly peripheral events. Spin it any way you want but the “grand bargain” still works for hundreds of thousands of injured workers every year.
Antidotes on the other side are probably more frequent. Yes the system is changing. Lawyers and courts have liberalized the system a lot so many (especially certain states like CA) receive benefits or over-benefits, that make it more expensive (not sure where they came up with it being cheaper). So businesses and legislatures have fought back by lowering benefits. The system should be made much more objective and benefits should be adequate and guaranteed, and lawyers and doctors should mot be able to make a huge living off the system. I also don’t agree with opt out laws.
I found two ironic points in the article.
1. One of the injured workers profiled was in ND, which is a monopolistic state. In other words, the injured worker was failed by a single payer system which tried to keep costs down by not offering the better treatment which costs more.
2. A much larger problem is the large amount of workers who work “off the books” in the underground economy and thus are not covered by WC, SSDI or any other safety net. All WC systems could afford to offer better benefits if everyone was in the system.
Since it is politically incorrect to rail against the “undocumented” under ground economy where there is nothing, WC is an easy target. However, have WC even in a State with the smallest benefits, is much better than having nothing.
I find it odd that people complain about comp benefits being stingy, but not about the underground economy where comp benefits are non existent.
Boca Condo: off the books payroll doesn’t mean no coverage. The worker is injured and will be paid, all he has to prove is he was paid. Payroll is a rating tool not a coverage tool. At least that’s what happens in my state. so it’s even harder on the system.
Does anyone else find it suspicious that OSHA weighs in with a similar report one day after a ProPublica/NPR report?
who REALLY CARES AS LONG AT THE TRUTH GETS OUT?
THis was my response to the guy who thinks we help so many on comp that its ok to harm a few, and let them fall through the cracks. NO WORKER FALLING THROUGH THE CRACK’S IS ACCEPTABLE.
WORKERS EVEN ONE, FALLING THROUGH THE CRACK, WAS NEVER PART OF THE BARGAIN, NOR SHOULD IT BE NOW.
Am I not damaged enough for you and your friends yet? AM I not catastrophic enough yet for my frivolous grand bargain to be honored as well as 30 years of labor?
NO WORKERS SHOULD BE BEING LEFT BEHIND EVER. THAT IS NOT WHAT OUR BARGAIN CALLED FOR. SO FOLKS WHO SAY SOME HARM IS OK FOR ALL THE GOOD WE DO ARE ASS HATES TRYING TO HOLD ON TO THE PROFITS OF A FEW WHILE THE MAJORITY SUFFER AND ACTUALLY ARE BEING DEFRAUDED ON A SNIFF AND GRIN IN MANY CASES AND NOT THE OBJECT FACTS THAT WE ARE ALL LEFT TO FIGHT FOR IN A NO FAULT SYSTEM.
NO WORKERS LEFT BEHIND IS ACCEPTABLE FOR IS JUST A LITTLE FRAUD ACCEPTABLE? OR JUST A LITTLE FRIVOLOUS CIVIL RIGHT VIOLATIONS AT THE BED SIDE THAT TAKES FOLKS YEARS TO FIGHT BACK AGAINST TO GET JUSTICE IF THEY EVER DO, REALLY EVER GOING TO BE ACCEPTABLE TO THOSE BEING HARMED INTENTLY FOR A FEW TO PROFIT? ON THOSE GREAT PRIVATE EQUITY HEDGE FUNDS? JUST ASKING.
i was injured with a spinal injury but the compensation fund in South africa declared this as a 30 % disability and tried to get away but i have laid a objection which they ruled in their favour . I have appealed and engaged a attorney to follow up .
The portion of the report I heard mentioned a combination of low benefits (resulting in inadequate wage replacement) and liberal access (resulting in undeserved benfits). Too much of the political analysis looks only at costs or only at benefits instead of getting adequate benefits to the deserving people.
Did anyone pick up on the 4.4% reduction in eligible WC in 2009. Let’s harken back to the economic actions in 2008 and the subsequent shrinkage of the economy with double digit unemployment that followed and lasted for many months. I am honestly surprised that the reduction was ONLY 4.4% based on my what my clients experienced…but no notations were made to other, impactful possibly peripheral events. Spin it any way you want but the “grand bargain” still works for hundreds of thousands of injured workers every year.