Happy Pi Day! Here Are 10 Irrational Insurance Numbers

March 13, 2015

  • March 13, 2015 at 1:48 pm
    Integrity matters says:
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    Another irrational fact…

    Despite scientific proof that fetus’ are baby humans, millions of abortions are allowed in the US every year. This event leaves 1 person dead and 1 injured nearly 100% of the time.

    Yet, the government still permits and promotes it. Crazy stuff!

    • March 13, 2015 at 3:24 pm
      Gee, thanks, Integrity matters... says:
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      You just created one HUGE buzz kill….

    • March 16, 2015 at 3:26 pm
      Lighten Up! says:
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      You must be a great time at a social gathering, Integrity Matters! Get off your soap box…it was intended to be a fun little article.

  • March 13, 2015 at 2:00 pm
    Dave says:
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    For all us math geeks out there, enjoy tomorrow!

    • March 13, 2015 at 2:59 pm
      Agent says:
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      Dave, Ron’s irrational numbers are his algorithms for Predictive Modeling which are so off that they have to be changed regularly or the company goes broke by losing their customers.

      • March 16, 2015 at 11:59 am
        What does Ron have to do with it? says:
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        Why did you call out Ron, Agent? I don’t see that he posted in this article, so I can’t understand why you would insult him out of the blue.

  • March 13, 2015 at 3:38 pm
    Interested says:
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    Abortion is the leading cause of death in America.

    • March 17, 2015 at 5:19 pm
      Don't Call Me Shirley says:
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      It’s not even in the top 10. Furthermore, your “God” kills more babies than anyone, yet you still blindly support him.

      • March 20, 2015 at 3:53 pm
        bob says:
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        Oh look, another comment that is totally not said all the time by liberals!

        Say something that isn’t predictable Shirley.

        Also, the comment is bluntly wrong, but I digress.

      • March 20, 2015 at 7:26 pm
        bob says:
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        Also,

        I would put over 55 million as quite a huge amount considering our total population of less than 320 million.

        http://www.lifenews.com/2013/01/18/55772015-abortions-in-america-since-roe-vs-wade-in-1973/

        http://www.census.gov/popclock/

        What is extreme is the amount of abortions that occur, not the amount that conservatives try to stop.

        Also, I believe you once tried to make it an issue to say that married couples need it too, and that it isn’t primarily single women who have abortions through being irresponsible. But Au contraire, the majority are not married and do not co inhabit. This is not including how many are not married and do co inhabit combined against those who are and have abortions, and is still 56% In other words, people who are not married and are living a single moron lifestyle are the source of the problem, despite how much offense Libby gets saying “excuse me? married people get pregnant too!”

        https://www.guttmacher.org/media/presskits/abortion-US/statsandfacts.html

  • March 13, 2015 at 3:58 pm
    BS says:
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    How does an article about Pi Day that includes a link to 10 random insurance-related facts, generate comments about abortion and insults towards someone who hasn’t even commented on the thread?

    What the hell is wrong with you people? Are you that miserable that you can’t just let a silly, fluff-piece go without making it negative or turning it into a fight?

    • March 13, 2015 at 4:38 pm
      integrity matters says:
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      BS – The article was about irrational numbers and stupid things that people do that don’t make sense. I thought I would share another.

      The stat about people who don’t wear helmets while riding a motorcycle pertains to those riders personal choice. The states that have laws against not wearing a helmet are hypocrites when it comes to personal choice. At least the rider is only killing themselves and not another person.

      I would bet my house that there are more babies killed by abortion than because a person didn’t wear a helmet.

      I’m not trying to start an agrument, just laying the facts out for those who are indifferent to abortion. Maybe if enough people cared, some lives could be saved.

      • March 18, 2015 at 6:39 pm
        Olive Uhboreshuns says:
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        I’ll take that bet!

    • March 13, 2015 at 5:02 pm
      Agent says:
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      BS, we can’t hold a candle to Ron & Rosenblatt on the insults. I have been insulted 50 times more than anyone on this blog for the past 4 years. I have a lot of catching up to do.

      • March 16, 2015 at 10:45 am
        What does Ron & Rosenblatt have to do with it? says:
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        Why did you call out Ron & Rosenblatt, Agent? I don’t see that either of them has posted in this article, so I can’t understand why you would insult both of them out of the blue.

        • March 16, 2015 at 12:09 pm
          Agent says:
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          Hey What, I have signed onto many articles and before I even thought about commenting, I had already been insulted by the likes of Ron & Rosenblatt. They don’t like Conservatives and I am their favorite target.

        • March 20, 2015 at 3:54 pm
          bob says:
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          Maybe because they do the same to him?

          Agent has battered wife syndrome, it’s easy to see.

          Of course I’m over exaggerating, but he has seen the most bullying here.

          • March 23, 2015 at 3:12 pm
            Agent says:
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            I hate to tell you Bob, but I don’t get bullied. The left on this blog attempts to bully, but they don’t get very far since I give back better than I get. I cut them no slack because their ideas are wrong.

          • March 23, 2015 at 3:22 pm
            bob says:
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            Agent,

            Getting them back doesn’t mean they didn’t come at you though.

            I get your point, however.

          • March 24, 2015 at 9:51 am
            Ron says:
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            Agent,

            Try giving back more answers and less insults and I will reciprocate. Fair enough?

      • March 16, 2015 at 11:09 am
        Stan says:
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        Agent, maybe thats just because you tend to bring out the best in people?

      • March 16, 2015 at 12:07 pm
        Ron says:
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        Agent,

        I will make a deal with you. You start answering my questions directly and stop insulting me and I will stop insulting you.

        You state that I am uninformwed, yet fail to inform me when I have a question. Maybe you are to blame for my naivete.

        • March 16, 2015 at 12:37 pm
          Rosenblatt says:
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          That deal seems fair, Ron. I’d like to get in on it too and hopefully get past all this childish bickering that gets us nowhere.

          Agent – if you answer my questions directly and stop insulting me, I will continue to answer your questions and I will stop insulting you.

          Do you agree or disagree to adhere to this new deal?

        • March 16, 2015 at 12:57 pm
          Agent says:
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          Ron, you are almost 50 now and still show the naivete of Stan who is the most naïve three degree idiot on this blog.

          • March 16, 2015 at 1:27 pm
            Ron says:
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            Agent,

            Will you agree to my deal?

          • March 16, 2015 at 2:08 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            If there was ever a time for Agent to directly answer a question, now is the time.

            Agent – do you agree with Ron and I that if you answer our questions and stop insulting us that we will answer your questions and stop insulting you?

            I sincerely hope – for us everyone who reads these comments – that we can reach this agreement and move forward as adults.

          • March 16, 2015 at 2:31 pm
            Agent says:
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            Ron & Rosenblatt, we have been there, done that. The truce never lasts more than a few days at best. There is too much divergence between Conservatives & Liberals views. I will not allow you to name call and call me an idiot or any other Conservative on this blog names without reprisal. However, we now seem to have lost Libby on the blog. She was the undisputed Queen of Mean and perhaps the atmosphere will improve to a degree. Try not to be so demanding on your questions and we may get along better. Anyone paying attention to the news of the day should not be demanding links to every subject. I don’t demand links because I pay attention to current events. You should try to do the same and stop wasting my time.

          • March 16, 2015 at 3:30 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Agent – is there any harm in trying out this truce?

            “I will not allow you to name call and call me an idiot or any other Conservative on this blog names without reprisal.”

            If we agree to this truce, we will not call you an idiot or any other negative name. That’s the whole point. If we do throw out insults (truce or no truce), you have every right to respond in kind.

            Seriously – what’s the harm in agreeing to try to be civil with each other? If the agreement fails, we’re back to normal. If it succeeds, EVERYONE on this site (not just the regular posters) will win from not being subject to such antics.

          • March 16, 2015 at 3:36 pm
            Ron says:
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            Agent,

            We have never been there because you will not agree to my truces. I have extended an olive branch a couple of times, but you always refuse to accept it.

            Regarding your statement, “Try not to be so demanding on your questions and we may get along better.” I do not think I am demanding when I first pose questions to you. However, it may come across that way when I have to ask more than 3 times.

            All I am asking is that you answer the questions I pose to you. I extend that courtesy to you all the time. If you do not have an answer, please just say so and I will let it go.

            If you are going to make a statement, expect people to look for clarifications or we may challenge you on occasion. It is called a civil debate. In addition, if you cite numbers or facts, you should provide your source. It just gives you more credibility. It does not have to be a link.

            It is not a Conservative vs Liberal thing to me since I am neither. How many Liberals do you know that call for less taxes, less spending, and less regulations?

            I have apologized in the past for the name calling and have not engaged in such behavior for a very long time. I challenge you to find any evidence of me calling you any name over the past several months.

          • March 16, 2015 at 4:23 pm
            Agent says:
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            Ron & Rosenblatt, here you are trying to get a truce and hiding my posts at the same time. That is a violation of the truce in only a few minutes. You can’t suppress my opinion on this blog, so don’t even try it. I have a number of people that agree with me on issues on this blog, far more than agree with you. Shall I name them all for you?

          • March 16, 2015 at 4:29 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Ron – for what it’s worth, I have also previously attempted to reach a truce with Agent (RE: manipulation of voting) and was rejected because I could not promise that everyone else on the site would agree to the same terms he and I were discussing.

            Seriously Agent – what’s the harm in agreeing with Ron and I to try and be civil with each other and stop the insults? Can’t we give it the ‘old college try’?

          • March 16, 2015 at 4:33 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            I am not hiding your posts (or anyone else’s) Agent.

            I wish you could ask the site administrator to provide you with details on the people who have, because I assure you – it has not been me for quite some time now.

            Regardless – how about a DOUBLE truce. I promise (1) not to insult you (2) to directly answer your questions and (3) never vote on anyone’s post more than one time if you agree to the same terms with me.

            Do you find that fair and agreeable?

          • March 17, 2015 at 8:24 am
            Ron says:
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            Agent,

            Do you have proof that Rosenblatt or I have been hiding your posts? If you believe in the Constitution, then you will assume we are innocent until proven guilty.

            Besides, how can there be a violation of truce to which you have not agreed? Are you completely incapable of having a civil debate with someone you disagree?

            You complain about the lack of civil discourse, yet are unwilling to look for a solution to stop it. Just accept the deal and try.

            I have posted multiple times that I do not click like or unlike and I believe the like/unlike feature should be removed becasue it leads to childish behavior from both sides.

          • March 17, 2015 at 12:45 pm
            Stan says:
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            lol this exchange should tell you all you need to know about conservatives, as it is perfectly representative of our elected leaders.

            Ron and Rose both look to agent for compromise, and just like a perfect republican, he tells them to flip off, as he has no real interest in governing. he just wants to sit in his tower and bitch and moan.

            grow up Agent. politics is for adults. so either go home and put on your daddy’s shoes, or toughen up, because this is a man’s game.

        • March 20, 2015 at 3:55 pm
          bob says:
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          No. He does not have to answer questions you set up to degrade him.

          You will take his comments respectively, and will not insult him. That is the deal.

    • March 16, 2015 at 11:59 am
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      Integrity, I’m not saying abortion is or is not an issue that should be discussed. And Agent, I’m not saying that your animosity towards Ron and Rosenblatt is or is not well deserved.

      What I am saying is that not *every* post needs to be turned into a heated debate or slinging of insults. Save your ammo for a debate or argument that’s actually in progress, and just enjoy the silly article about a geeky ‘holiday.’

      • March 16, 2015 at 6:09 pm
        Agent says:
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        Rosenblatt, do you really think I haven’t tried the site administrator to complain, particularly at the height of Libby’s and Booger’s ugliness in the identity-gate fiasco? I wasn’t the only Conservative blogger to complain about them. I will agree to try to limit my dislikes to one at a time, but if you think I will agree with Ron more than 1% of the time, that is wishful thinking. I don’t agree with Liberals on much and he has a nasty habit of agreeing and then objecting on the same post and then “demanding” I give three or four examples of where he is wrong. Progressive thinking is what is wrong with this country. Sorry, we will continue to disagree with just about every subject on this forum. Perhaps on a P&C article once in a while, but Social Issues, Obamacare, not a chance.

        • March 17, 2015 at 8:01 am
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          Agent – nobody is suggesting the truce include “you must agree with what other people say” as part of the deal.

          It’s cool if you disagree with Ron, myself, Libby, etc. 100% of the time. Just like defending yourself from people who insult you – that’s still in play.

          Regardless – I promise (1) not to insult you (2) to directly answer your questions and (3) never vote on anyone’s post more than one time if you agree to the same terms with me.

          Do you find that fair and agreeable?

          • March 19, 2015 at 12:26 pm
            Agent says:
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            Rosenblatt, the eternal optimist. Ok, I promise not to call you names. However, if you ask me loaded questions like Ron does, you may not like the answer and I will only downvote my disagreement one time. By the way, the child Stan is the one doing the massive downvoting on your post and every one of my posts. How about giving him a lecture since his education did not include basic manners as part of the curriculum.

          • March 19, 2015 at 12:44 pm
            Stan says:
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            Agent, are you respectful of the imbecile who ruins your life? Or do you call him out for being the Texas Dummy that he is?

            Why are you so sensitive? For being such a can-do winner, you sure do bitch and moan a lot.

            And for the record, straightforward questions that expose you as a hypocrite are not “gotcha” questions. Try standing on your own two feet or, better yet, on the merits, for once.

        • March 17, 2015 at 8:16 am
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          Agent,

          You said, “if you think I will agree with Ron more than 1% of the time, that is wishful thinking.” Based on that logic, and what I believe, you must be for:
          1. higher taxes
          2. more spending
          3. bigger, less efficient government
          4. more regulations
          5. higher deficits
          6. more debt
          7. more oppressive government
          8. the PPACA

          At least I will admit when I do agree with you. However, you also have a way of posting things of which I do not agree. What should I do? Abandon my principles just to make you happy? I have no problem with you questioning my posts and have responded to nearly all of your questions. All I ask is that you extend the same courtesy. Why is that so diffiuclt for you?

          I have requested you provide some evidence to back up your positions or proof that what you are saying about me is true. You have a nasty tendency to mischaracterize me based on little to no evidence.

          • March 17, 2015 at 10:36 am
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            As usual Ron, you are wrong on every subject listed. Here is my evidence on you for Progressive Socialist thinking. Please do not try to deny it.

            A few years back, you admitted to everyone on the forum that your father-in-law called you a Socialist, Marxist for your beliefs. All I have to judge you is your voting record for the Socialist in Chief and your hundreds of email posts. He has been up close and personal and when you started rattling off your theories on how Progressivism and Keynsian spending policy is good for America, I am sure he told you to shut up or leave. I admire him for that.

          • March 17, 2015 at 10:47 am
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            Forget about the past for a second you guys – let’s try to keep this truce-in-progress back on track.

            ~~~~~

            Agent – nobody is suggesting the truce include “you must agree with what other people say” as part of the deal.

            It’s cool if you disagree with Ron, myself, Libby, etc. 100% of the time. Just like defending yourself from people who insult you – that’s still in play.

            Regardless – I promise (1) not to insult you (2) to directly answer your questions and (3) never vote on anyone’s post more than one time if you agree to the same terms with me.

            Do you find that fair and agreeable?

          • March 17, 2015 at 11:15 am
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            Agent,

            Still not answering my questions.

            Regarding my father-in-law, first, he did not call me a Socialist, Marxist, he called me a Liberal Democrat. Keep it straight. Second, I was just pointing out how Conservatives think that if you are not 100% Conservative, then you must be a Liberal Democrat. Like you, he has no concept of Independents nor people who are fiscally Conservative and Socially Liberal.

            He never told me to shut up or leave. We actually have a very good relationship and respect for each other, even though we differ on a few political positions.

            How can you say I am wrong on every single subject? Do you have any evidence supporting that statement? Is there a reason you do not want me to hold those positions?

            I did not vote FOR President Obama, I voted against the 2 Republicans whom I beleieved would have been worse for the country. Based on the fact that this country is no more Socialist now and the economy has improved, I am confident I made the correct decision. However, I may have been wrong. We will never KNOW. Just like you cannot possibly KNOW that either John McCain or Mitt Romney would have done a better job.

            How come it was OK for President Reagan to agree to Keynesian principles, but not President Obama?

          • March 17, 2015 at 12:48 pm
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            Agent doesnt know what he is talking about. Republicans are the problem. End of story. Case in point, last year, Obama offered to seriously cut Social Security benefits (chained CPI), in exchange for some tax hikes- exactly the kind of responsible leadership (but terrible economics) fiscal hawks pretend to crave. Not surpisingly, the GOP rejected the deal out of hand, and then attacked the Dems for attacking Social Security for good measure.

          • March 17, 2015 at 1:06 pm
            Agent says:
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            Ron, I don’t have time to dig through postings of two or three years ago about what your father in law said to you, but I am confident he did say it and you have been trying to get out of it ever since. He had it right. Since you are from NY, I can understand where you are coming from and it is in your genes, apparently. Still defending your choice of Obama I see after much deliberation. Wow, that doesn’t say much for your analysis skills. We will never know??????? I knew in March 2009 what was coming down and he hasn’t done anything remotely close to changing my mind. Same old same old all the time 24/7 and you still don’t get it.

          • March 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm
            Ron says:
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            Agent,

            Still won’t answer my questions.

            I just told you what I said he said. Glad to save you the time and energy. Why does what my father-in-law’s characterization of me matter anyway? He is from NY also. Does that make him a Liberal? I will let him know you think that.

            Please PROVE that John McCain or Mitt Romney would have been better based on what they DID as President of the United States. Oh yeah…you CAN’T. Go ahead and pontificate. That is not the same as knowing.

            I have provided proof based on data and statistics that we, as a country overall, are in better economic condition since he was elected. Nobody can say with certainty that we be doing this well if someone else were elected. I also understand that we may be doing much better under a different president. Unfortunately, we will never know who is right.

  • March 16, 2015 at 1:36 pm
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    Yet despite even MORE scientific proof that creationism isn’t real, you Mesus freaks persist in your childish beliefs.Dad bless………. Huckabee 2016!

    • March 16, 2015 at 2:33 pm
      Agent says:
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      Planet, stop masquerading and come out of hiding. You are switching off between Farmer John and it is disgusting.

      • March 17, 2015 at 1:19 pm
        Farmer John says:
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        What’s disgusting? How’d I get dragged into this?

    • March 17, 2015 at 6:14 pm
      Don't Call Me Shirley says:
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      What does the “H” stand for? Hussein?

      • March 18, 2015 at 6:53 pm
        Olive Uhboreshuns says:
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        The “H” stands for Harold. You know, “Blessed be art father, Harold be thy name”

  • March 16, 2015 at 4:51 pm
    Celtica says:
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    Hmmmm, does someone have a not so hidden agenda that has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand?

  • March 16, 2015 at 4:51 pm
    Daisy says:
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    Is Agent’s real name Dave Hester?

  • March 17, 2015 at 2:22 pm
    Rosenblatt says:
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    I’ll try posting this on its own here and hopefully it’ll allow Agent to see the post and provide a reply.

    Agent – nobody is suggesting the truce include “you must agree with what other people say” as part of the deal.

    It’s cool if you disagree with Ron, myself, Libby, etc. 100% of the time. Just like defending yourself from people who insult you – that’s still in play.

    Regardless – I promise (1) not to insult you (2) to directly answer your questions and (3) never vote on anyone’s post more than one time if you agree to the same terms with me.

    Do you find that fair and agreeable?

    • March 17, 2015 at 3:08 pm
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      Based on your lack of an earlier response and that this comment is now hidden – shall I presume, Agent, that you wholeheartedly refuse to agree with me that we will try and be civil with each other?

      • March 17, 2015 at 3:41 pm
        Agent says:
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        Rosenblatt, I did reply to your question had you bothered to read it yesterday. I can be civil to you, but not necessarily to Ron who continues his tirade. By the way, I did not hide your comment, believe it or not. One of the other liberal posters is trying to stir up trouble. I will let you guess which one from the above posts. You can’t control this situation any more than I can. My posts will be hidden as they are on every article. Keep your comments reasonable and we can agree to disagree without rancor.

        • March 17, 2015 at 4:13 pm
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          I can admit when I’m wrong, but Agent – I re-read all your posts and still don’t believe you ever answered the question.

          You’ve previously told me I had poor reading comprehension skills. Maybe this is one of those times.

          Can you help me improve those skills by copying and pasting your agreement to my “do you agree to this truce?” question you say you posted yesterday?

          If you do, I will gladly post a reply, apologize to you for being wrong, and admit that you were right! After all, what better way to start a truce than to admit the other person was correct and that I had misunderstood what you previously wrote?

          • March 17, 2015 at 4:54 pm
            Agent says:
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            3-16-15, 6:09 PM was my reply. Be thankful you got that!

          • March 18, 2015 at 8:01 am
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            Rosenblatt, do you really think I haven’t tried the site administrator to complain, particularly at the height of Libby’s and Booger’s ugliness in the identity-gate fiasco? I wasn’t the only Conservative blogger to complain about them. I will agree to try to limit my dislikes to one at a time, but if you think I will agree with Ron more than 1% of the time, that is wishful thinking. I don’t agree with Liberals on much and he has a nasty habit of agreeing and then objecting on the same post and then “demanding” I give three or four examples of where he is wrong. Progressive thinking is what is wrong with this country. Sorry, we will continue to disagree with just about every subject on this forum. Perhaps on a P&C article once in a while, but Social Issues, Obamacare, not a chance.

            Unless I still have poor reading comprehension skills, “I will agree to try to limit my dislikes to one at a time” does not also mean “I agree to answer your questions and not insult you.” Am I wrong?

          • March 18, 2015 at 8:06 am
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            Agent,

            Rosenblatt’s agreement included 3 things:
            1. No more insults
            2. Answer questions directly
            3. No more than one like/dislike

            Your post only addressed one of the the 3 terms, and it was not even a true commitment. You said, “I will agree to try to limit my dislikes to one at a time”. So, your idea of agreeing to a deal is that you will TRY to accompdate one of 3 terms?

          • March 18, 2015 at 10:00 am
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            As a follow-up to Ron’s post…

            Honestly Agent – I only care about the “no more insults & answer questions directly” parts of the proposed truce.

            Although I’ve stopped voting multiple times on a post already, I would be fine if you and I can just agree that we won’t insult each other and we will answer each other’s questions.

            Is that agreeable to you?

          • March 18, 2015 at 10:22 am
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            Rosenblatt, the problem you and Ron have is “demanding” that I answer loaded questions. Ron has a very bad habit of numbering numerous questions and demanding I answer them. I will not respond to those types of posts.

            Here is a new project for both of you. Give me 20 reasons why you think Obama is the best President for the United States and why he has done great things for the country. Dig deep into your Progressive troves of info for it. We will all have a great laugh.

          • March 18, 2015 at 10:48 am
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            Agent,

            To answer your question:
            1. He is not and has not.
            2. He is not and has not.
            3. He is not and has not.
            4. He is not and has not.
            5. He is not and has not.
            6. He is not and has not.
            7. He is not and has not.
            8. He is not and has not.
            9. He is not and has not.
            10. He is not and has not.
            11. He is not and has not.
            12. He is not and has not.
            13. He is not and has not.
            14. He is not and has not.
            15. He is not and has not.
            16. He is not and has not.
            17. He is not and has not.
            18. He is not and has not.
            19. He is not and has not.
            20. He is not and has not.

            See how easy it is to answer someone else’s question?

            I will guarantee you that I will not demand any answers to ny questions if you answer them directly when I first ask. You may think they are loaded, and some probably are, but most are really to have you clarify your statement, challenge you to think more, or provide support or evidence to back up your statement.

          • March 18, 2015 at 10:56 am
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            Agent – I’m just trying to come to a two-person agreement that you and I (1) don’t insult each other and (2) answer relevant questions the other person asks.

            This solely applies to you and me — as stated before, how you deal with others is unaffected. I didn’t think this question was so difficult that we needed 15+ posts for you to provide me with a clear answer.

            Let me try again.

            The truce being offered is: if you agree not to insult me and answer my questions, I also agree not to insult you and answer your questions. You can still respond to others however you like, you can still defend yourself or your beliefs or your party affiliation if attacked, and I will not vote multiple times on a single post.

            Yes or no – do you agree to the truce I am offering you?

          • March 19, 2015 at 11:07 am
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            Ron, remember when you said you were Conservative fiscally, but liberal Socially. You then proceeded to say that the Social agenda does not cost anything. What a farce! Below is a partial list of Social Programs instituted by the Federal Government. There is not enough room on a post blog to list all of them.

            1. Head Start
            2. Welfare – Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, or TANF.
            3. Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
            4. GI Bill
            5. Pell Grants
            6. Food Stamps
            7. Government Subsidized Housing
            8. Home Mortgage Interest Deduction – Your favorite
            9. Hope and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits – Did you get that?
            10.Child & Dependent Care Tax Credit
            11. Earned-Income Tax Credit
            12. Employer subsidized health insurance
            13. Employer subsidized retirement benefits
            14. Federal Student Loans
            15. Social Security Disability – Record number getting that since there are few jobs now.
            16. Obama phones

            Still think Social Programs don’t cost the taxpayer?

          • March 19, 2015 at 11:38 am
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            Agent – can you please answer me? I’ve asked many many many times and you still haven’t said yes or no.

            Do you agree to the truce I offered you?

            If you provide a simple “yes” or “no” answer to this question, I’ll be able to stop asking you about it and we can move on.

            Just a yes or a no. That’s all I’m asking from you.

          • March 19, 2015 at 11:58 am
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            Agent,

            Do you know the difference between social issues and social programs? I never said social programs do not come with a huge price tag. In fact, I hacve advocated for reforms to these=ograms to make them more efficient, reduce costs, and get as many people off of the temporary programs as possible.

            What I wanted to know was how much each of the following cost the government from a fiscal standpoint, not from a morality standpoint.
            1. Gay marriage
            2. Abortion, compared to the cost of pre and post natal care of a child
            3. Equal pay for women
            4. Legalization of marijuana
            5. Bridging the gap of income inequality

            Reagrding the programs you listed. Outside of fraud, aren’t most of these deisigned to help people who need it the most? If you believe that we are a Christian nation, should you not be supportive of most of these programs?

  • March 17, 2015 at 4:36 pm
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    I miss Libby. I hope she’s ok.

    • March 17, 2015 at 4:51 pm
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      Does anyone know if Libby is out ill or on vacation?
      Hope she returns soon. She gives as good as she gets.

    • March 17, 2015 at 4:56 pm
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      Actually louie, the forum has been less confrontational and less insulting without Libby. Perhaps her boss caught her blogging most of every workday and said knock it off.

    • March 19, 2015 at 12:49 pm
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      Here is a new quiz for everyone to take. Six trivia questions to see how much history you know. Answer all the questions (No Cheating) before you look at the answers.
      Who said it?
      1. “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good”.
      A. Karl Marx
      B. Adolf Hitler
      C. Joseph Stalin
      D. Barack Obama
      E. None of the Above
      2. “It’s time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few and for the few… And to replace it with shared responsibility, for shared responsibility”.
      A. Lenin
      B. Mussolini
      C. Idi Amin
      D. Barack Obama
      E. None of the Above
      3. “We can’t just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people”.
      A. Nikita Kruschev
      B. Joseph Goebbels
      C. Boris Yeltsin
      D. Barack Obama
      E. None of the Above
      4. “We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own…in order to create this common ground”.
      A. Mao Tse Tung
      B. Hugo Chavez
      C. Kim Jong Il
      D. Barack Obama
      E. None of the above
      5. “I certainly think the free market has failed”
      A. Karl Marx
      B. Lenin
      C. Molotov
      D. Barack Obama
      E. None of the above
      6. “I think it is time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in the entire economy that they are being watched”.
      A. Pinochet
      B. Saddam Hussein
      C. Barack Obama
      D. Elizabeth Warren
      E. None of the above

      Answers: 1. None of the above. Hillary Clinton – 6-29-04
      2. None of the above – Hillary Clinton – 5-29-07
      3. None of the above – Hillary Clinton – 6-4-07
      4. None of the above – Hillary Clinton – 6-4-07
      5. None of the above – Hillary Clinton – 6-4-07
      6. None of the above – Hillary Clinton – 9-2-05

      This modern Progressive is a real piece of work.

      • March 19, 2015 at 1:15 pm
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        Agent,

        Simple question, who on this blog has shown any support for Hillary Clinton? I am definitely against her.

        If you would spend more time answering my simple questions and less time trying to convince us to not like that soemone nobody likes, we would be much better off.

        Still want to know how much each of the following costs the government from a fiscal standpoint, not from a morality standpoint.
        1. Gay marriage
        2. Abortion, compared to the cost of pre and post natal care of a child
        3. Equal pay for women
        4. Legalization of marijuana
        5. Bridging the gap of income inequality

        • March 19, 2015 at 2:41 pm
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          1. Libby
          2. Celtica
          3. Stan
          4. Boogereater
          5. Planet
          All big supporters of Hillary and all as left as can be.

          Have you even heard of “Planned Parenthood” who gets generous subsidies from the taxpayer? Abortion, birth control, morning after pill? If they want to do that, do it privately with your donation.

          Why are you even concerned with equal pay for women? The White House doesn’t even pay their women for equal work. Legalization of Marijuana is a huge problem. It is mind altering, gateway to other things and people often smoke it and then drink and drive and run over and kill people. Has your mind been altered?

          Wow, you sound just like your President & Hillary on the last one. Typical Progressive comment.

          • March 19, 2015 at 6:26 pm
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            “Have you even heard of “Planned Parenthood” who gets generous subsidies from the taxpayer? Abortion, birth control, morning after pill? If they want to do that, do it privately with your donation.”

            Have you ever heard of the NFL who gets subsidies from the taxpayer? If they want to do that, do it privately with your donation.

      • March 19, 2015 at 1:57 pm
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        I hope we never see another Clinton or Bush as our President.

        • March 19, 2015 at 2:51 pm
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          Rosenblatt, I would hope you might find out some of your links on how bad the Clinton’s were and currently are to post on this site. Hillary makes Bill look like a choirboy on issues.

          I am not high on Jeb since he is basically a RINO and far more liberal than GW thought about being. GW was caught up in the 9/11 attack and having to go after the evildoers. We will never know how his policies would have worked out since they had to be changed in the aftermath. He was basically beaten down after 6 years of the liberal media attacking him all the time, so he started signing all the Democrat spending bills and the Bawney/Dodd sub prime mess hit and screwed up the economy. Obama came in and basically made everything worse. The economy has been languishing between 1.5 & 2% growth for 6 years with no end in sight. I cannot envision how things would have been had Obama been in office when 9/11 happened. That is a scary thought.

  • March 19, 2015 at 12:50 pm
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    Okay. Last time – let me try this again.

    Agent – the truce being offered is: if you agree not to insult me and answer my questions, I also agree not to insult you and answer your questions. You can still respond to others however you like, you can still defend yourself or your beliefs or your party affiliation if attacked, and I will not vote multiple times on a single post.

    You still have not provided a clear answer.

    Yes or no – do you agree to the truce I am offering you?

    I’ll stop asking you this as soon as you give me an answer.

    What say you, Agent?

    Yes or no?

    • March 19, 2015 at 1:07 pm
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      Already answered Rosenblatt if you scrolled up. Once again, I agree to your truce. Some of your buddies will continue to downvote me and they do it at their own peril. Perhaps we can have a civil discourse after all. Please refrain from your 8 paragraph posts like Bob does. My eyes cross after the first four.

      • March 19, 2015 at 1:54 pm
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        Thank you for letting me know, Agent. As I pointed out above, I was confused about the answer you gave since you only talked about 1/3 of the items we were discussing and you never really said yes or no.

        Regardless, I look forward to having civil discussions with you too and will do my best to keep my posts under 1,000 paragraphs!

        • March 19, 2015 at 4:21 pm
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          One to four paragraphs are ok, more than that gets tedious. Bob is the all time leader in paragraphs per post, then he starts a new one right under the previous laborious post.

          Would you show Ron how to make a new paragraph instead of going to another post to continue? He has issues with technology. On my computer, “enter” works great to do a new paragraph.

  • March 19, 2015 at 5:50 pm
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    Group hug!



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