I don’t know how many saw the Oklahoma-TCU game two weeks ago, but a TCU defensive back blatantly targeted the Oklahoma quarterback helmet to helmet and was kicked out of the game. Thankfully, the coach took Mayfield out of the game for the second half and he was fine for the Oklahoma State game last weekend. What a route! Schools that don’t teach discipline in tackling should be fined heavily by the league and the money donated to research on Concussions.
You’re attacking me, why? If adults getting hit in the head repeatedly are at risk for brain damage, then I think it would be obvious that the risk would be even greater for kids. Hence, “water is wet.”
Insguy, After Frank Gifford died, they did an autopsy on his brain to see if he had trauma and concluded that he had some. I wonder how he made it to age 84 and broadcasted for 30 years or so after he retired from football. I am pretty sure he started out in grade school, high school, college and then pro ball so he had many tough hits. No one makes these guys sign a pro contract in a violent sport. – – it happens.
But the NFL lied and said their research showed that repetitive hits to the head did not cause the kind of trauma and long-term damage we now know occurs with this type of trauma. They created fake studies, and attacked doctors who produced actual research on the topic. They then pushed ESPN not to air their research and documentary on the role the NFL played with the fraudulent research, and the effects of concussions.
The NFL knew for decades these concussions were terrible and lied to their players with fraudulent studies saying it was safe. Of course the players are going to believe the NFL, or at least have doubt cast on the studies showing it is dangerous.
It’s the exact same thing the oil companies, and other corporations have done with climate change. The oil companies, including Exxon it was recently revealed, knew about climate change being man-made, and created largely by their product, and created fraudulent studies to create doubt and ambiguity, because they knew it would work on people who didn’t follow it closely, or in some cases didn’t care.
UW – you hit the nail on the head with this issue: “The NFL knew for decades these concussions were terrible and lied to their players with fraudulent studies saying it was safe”
Agent – one other thing to consider is that just because someone has CTE doesn’t mean they’ll die before they get old. You could live to 83 with CTE like Frank Gifford or you could end up committing suicide because of your CTE before you turn 45, like Junior Seau.
Think of it like cancer – some can live for decades while others die tragically young. It doesn’t mean those who lived longer didn’t actually have cancer, right?
December 4, 2015 at 10:16 am
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Rosenblatt, the better solution is to crack down on all coaches from grade school to the pro’s for teaching the wrong tackling techniques and telling their players to go after the other team’s star players and take them out of the game? If this had been done 30 years ago, we wouldn’t have a concussion problem at all. Also, had they stayed with the old leather helmets with little protection, a player would think twice about leading with his head. They all have a false sense of security with these modern helmets.
December 3, 2015 at 12:35 pm
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Hi InsGuy,
My comment was more in response to the title, rather than the content of the article: “Amateur Athletes, Not Just Pros, Could Be at Risk for Brain Damage: Mayo Clinic.” When I read it, my first thought was “Well, duh.”
If CTE occurs as frequently as it appears to for professional football players, I think it would be a given that kids and teenagers could have the same, if not a greater risk of it. Their brains are still developing, and getting hit repeatedly is bound to cause some sort of damage – even if it doesn’t show up for many, many years.
I don’t know how many saw the Oklahoma-TCU game two weeks ago, but a TCU defensive back blatantly targeted the Oklahoma quarterback helmet to helmet and was kicked out of the game. Thankfully, the coach took Mayfield out of the game for the second half and he was fine for the Oklahoma State game last weekend. What a route! Schools that don’t teach discipline in tackling should be fined heavily by the league and the money donated to research on Concussions.
…and in other news, water is wet.
If you don’t have anything intelligent to post, perhaps you should take a hike.
*blink*
You’re attacking me, why? If adults getting hit in the head repeatedly are at risk for brain damage, then I think it would be obvious that the risk would be even greater for kids. Hence, “water is wet.”
Did you just announce you are permanently leaving this site?
Simple Agent is lucky he doesn’t have to worry about brain trauma. As Anna June used to tell him, “Ya can’t hurt what ya ain’t got”.
That’s a 3rd degree burn on Agent right there
Really BS?
As a Middle School & High School player starting lineman for 4 yrs, I would be interested to know just how “chronic” the “chronic trauma” has to be!
We probably won’t know in our lifetimes, but eventually they’ll develop ways to diagnose this prior to death and have more info.
Insguy, After Frank Gifford died, they did an autopsy on his brain to see if he had trauma and concluded that he had some. I wonder how he made it to age 84 and broadcasted for 30 years or so after he retired from football. I am pretty sure he started out in grade school, high school, college and then pro ball so he had many tough hits. No one makes these guys sign a pro contract in a violent sport. – – it happens.
But the NFL lied and said their research showed that repetitive hits to the head did not cause the kind of trauma and long-term damage we now know occurs with this type of trauma. They created fake studies, and attacked doctors who produced actual research on the topic. They then pushed ESPN not to air their research and documentary on the role the NFL played with the fraudulent research, and the effects of concussions.
The NFL knew for decades these concussions were terrible and lied to their players with fraudulent studies saying it was safe. Of course the players are going to believe the NFL, or at least have doubt cast on the studies showing it is dangerous.
It’s the exact same thing the oil companies, and other corporations have done with climate change. The oil companies, including Exxon it was recently revealed, knew about climate change being man-made, and created largely by their product, and created fraudulent studies to create doubt and ambiguity, because they knew it would work on people who didn’t follow it closely, or in some cases didn’t care.
UW – you hit the nail on the head with this issue: “The NFL knew for decades these concussions were terrible and lied to their players with fraudulent studies saying it was safe”
Agent – one other thing to consider is that just because someone has CTE doesn’t mean they’ll die before they get old. You could live to 83 with CTE like Frank Gifford or you could end up committing suicide because of your CTE before you turn 45, like Junior Seau.
Think of it like cancer – some can live for decades while others die tragically young. It doesn’t mean those who lived longer didn’t actually have cancer, right?
Rosenblatt, the better solution is to crack down on all coaches from grade school to the pro’s for teaching the wrong tackling techniques and telling their players to go after the other team’s star players and take them out of the game? If this had been done 30 years ago, we wouldn’t have a concussion problem at all. Also, had they stayed with the old leather helmets with little protection, a player would think twice about leading with his head. They all have a false sense of security with these modern helmets.
Hi InsGuy,
My comment was more in response to the title, rather than the content of the article: “Amateur Athletes, Not Just Pros, Could Be at Risk for Brain Damage: Mayo Clinic.” When I read it, my first thought was “Well, duh.”
If CTE occurs as frequently as it appears to for professional football players, I think it would be a given that kids and teenagers could have the same, if not a greater risk of it. Their brains are still developing, and getting hit repeatedly is bound to cause some sort of damage – even if it doesn’t show up for many, many years.