Which 3 conservatives will win the prize for freaking out about not enforcing the laws he has sworn an oath on the Bible to enforce? It’s not a funding priority like many of Obama’s policies, but actual non-enforcement of laws.
TrumPolar, I hope you and others on this blog will go to today’s – 1-26-17 edition of Townhall.com and read the main story titled: Obamacare Architect: Actually our law was never intended to help everyone. Tucker Carlson ripped the now infamous professor liar Jonathon Gruber a new one on his show. Gruber had to make some interesting concessions to his massive lies about this law.
A law based on lies and passed in a strictly partisan way will not stand. It imploded and will be repealed and replaced.
TrumPolar, the thing the Progressive Liberals are so mad about it that they got caught. They made it awfully easy to hack HRC, DNC and Podesta emails. When you have a password as “password”, a 12 year old could hack it. Progressive arrogance is really a bad problem for them. They are criminals as well.
You complain that PRESIDENT TRUMP will do away with obamacare, now you complain that he will let it ride for now but may not force people to have to buy it?
Further, Congressional Libitterals who voted for the ACA in 2009 exempted themselves from compliance. Later, they exempted 2000+ of their ‘buddies’ (unions, companies) from compliance with the ACA.
As long as the issues are fixed, I dont really care what they call it.
OBama had years to address the problem including the enrollment process as well as the foreign call centers that could care less about what they shoved down peoples throats.
Changes I want to see happen is put it back in the hands of local agent. Enrollment by Birth Month. Get rid of that web site.
Look at the slow implementation, and timing of penalties for not insuring, as an example. Once it became so severe that people sought an ACA policy, adverse selection had already set in motion a ‘fatal’ death spiral.
Look for ‘HEALTH CARE SPECIFICCS’ in the next few days, or two weeks, as integral parts of the plan to be proposed.
TrumPolar, saw another really good political cartoon today which is pertinent to this discussion.
Picture a patient on the operating table and our former Dr. Potus. The patient has an octopus covering his whole face and is named Obamacare. The former Dr.Potus says to the Republican – Are you crazy? If you remove it now, it might kill him.
Hi FFA, I am sure you remember in Wisconsin the lawmakers opposing Scott Walker disappearing into neighboring states rather than show up and do their job. It appears we have the same things going on in the halls of Congress not showing up for hearings on important business like confirming Trump’s appointees and the next Supreme Court justice. Guess how Wisconsin turned out and how DC will turn out. Hope the citizens of their states are paying attention and will send them packing in 2018.
Finally, the new Trumpcare Health Plan has been unveiled. Hell, no, you don’t have to buy health insurance — just go to the emergency room and stick everyone else with your medical bill. Don’t worry about people with health care plans going to the emergency room in an emergency — they will just have to wait behind those who couldn’t be bothered to pay premiums like honest people.
TrumPolarBear, the plan you’ve seen must be the same study that Trump saw for voter fraud. That is, there is no plan and no study.
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Yogi – you wrote “I’ve seen a plan.” Just one? Aren’t there at least half a dozen GOP plans floating around, none of which are actually all-encompassing?
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I’ve seen a detailed plan recently. It is copyrighted, so it cannot be revealed now. Some of it’s components are ‘public’; e.g. health savings accounts, which I can mention.
Pieces of the plan are being used by the people now in power to draft legislation.
As far as revealing ANY plan details to rude, vulgar, BOT-happy libitterals, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore route…. GO FISH!
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“As far as revealing ANY plan details to rude, vulgar, BOT-happy libitterals, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore route…. GO FISH!”
Cool. Cool cool cool. Since I’m not rude, vulgar, I don’t vote on this site and I voted Republican in the last 8 mid-term elections and never voted for Obama nor Hillary, please tell me the details. Thank you.
January 25, 2017 at 2:17 pm
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I’ve seen a detailed plan recently. It is copyrighted, so it cannot be revealed now. Some of it’s components are ‘public’; e.g. health savings accounts, which I can mention.
Pieces of the plan are being used by the people now in power to draft legislation.
As far as revealing ANY plan details to rude, vulgar, BOT-happy libitterals, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore route…. GO FISH!
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RE-POSTED because you posted your comment again without responding to my comment:
“As far as revealing ANY plan details to rude, vulgar, BOT-happy libitterals, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore route…. GO FISH!”
Cool. Cool cool cool. Since I’m not rude, vulgar, I don’t vote on this site and I voted Republican in the last 8 mid-term elections and never voted for Obama nor Hillary, please tell me the details. Thank you.
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The US government does not copyright policy plans. TrumPolarBear is so desperate to prove that the GOP has had health care plans that she/he resorts to making stuff up – just like Trump.
It isn’t the US govt plan. Your linear thought process won’t get you too far in these discussions.
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TrumpetPolarBear, it was a foregone conclusion that it was not a GOP plan — because they do not have any. One can only conclude you are alluding to your company’s plan being copyrighted. Naturally, you will do your best to screw the public, of that I am not sure.
January 25, 2017 at 2:53 pm
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Wrong again.
GOP planS are being cobbled together by a team to develop the best features and make it work to REDUCE COSTS and eliminate bureacracy / red tape / regulations that are INEFFICIENT and COSTLY.
Private plans are PART of the GOP plan approach.
Your narrow-minded thinking that the GOVERNMENT must control the HI arena is your fault/ error/ mistake. It seems you are unable to think of a world without the govt controlling everything they shouldn’t meddle in.
January 25, 2017 at 9:52 pm
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Actuaries are analyzing impacts of tort reforms, by state.
Libitterals will blow a fuse when they realize Republicans are FIXING something badly broken by Dems.
Nancy Pelosi Galore won’t be unable to understand the actuarial analyses. Harry Reid was glad he was on the govt plan when he was mugged by his exercise equipment, but will envy the Republicans new plan. Kerry and Pelosi will be glad they’re going to get Govt Health Care benefits to pick up botox treatments for life because the Republican Plan won’t cover such healt, er, vanity care.
January 27, 2017 at 9:34 am
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Celtica and other Libitterals in this sub thread are arguing for the sake of arguing, and doing so with the intent of baiting and faking knowledge while doing so.
It suggests George Sore-ass is still BIT-COIN funding spammers to CENSOR Conservative thoughts and news about TrumPresident’s successes in office.
January 27, 2017 at 9:38 am
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Arguing that plans are not a single plan or are not (a) government plan(s) is moot and argumentative, and is not a constructive or mature approach to discussion on a comment board.
There are NO REQUIREMENTS that plan proposals be unified, singular, government driven, or published immediately. Get over your childish temper tantrums!
January 25, 2017 at 12:53 pm
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Attention Libitterals: Ponder the implications of ALL OF YOUR RECENT LIES about ‘no plans exist to replace ACA’.
Your credibility, if it EVER existed, is now GONE!
ONE KEY EXCERPT THAT PROVES YOU LIE TO FURTHER YOUR LOSER LIBERAL AGENDA (e.g. “Grandma, Grandpa and POOR PEOPLE are going to LOSE/be without coverage, and will die.”):
“They emphasize that it is crucial to keep government subsidies for low income people.”
Don’t reply until you READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE, which partially exposes Libitterals lies about the REPLACEMENT for ACA.
BOT this post all you want; it can EASILY be re-posted once it is posted…
INSURER plans are invalid, but GOVT plans are the ONLY proper plans? WTF? WHO gave you the power to determine the proper way to fix the problems created by ACA?
I don’t care one iota about Sarah Palin’s words. I am results oriented.
Wrong. HI worked fairly well until costs grew due to life altering drugs that rose in cost because of MEDICARE PART D – a Bush plan.
Tort laws also contribute to HI costs thru med mal premiums passed back to patients by HC providers.
Your hyperbole about Sarah Palin, etc. is irrelevant and seems to be the only criticism you are capable of spewing like sewage from a sewage pipe.
There is no sensible Conservative ho cares about what Sarah Palin said because she was hand-picked by McCain, a member of the Gang of Eight.
Your hyperbole about the GOP owning death panels is ALSO being ignored by Trump supporters because they are much better informed than Libitterals about these issues than libitterals following the marching orders of Dirty Grandpa from Vermont, Bernie, and Georgie Sore-ass. BTW; Georgie is being blocked in Europe from doing any more harm there…. so your bit-coin gravy train for posting $^%& on the internet is going to be de-railed very soon.
PS The GOVT ‘Plans’ are not GOVT RUN HI PLANS. The plans are bills and exec orders intended to fix tort laws and lessen regulations, to ultimately ALLOW PRIVATE INSURERS to provide HI efficiently and effectively, at a lower cost, to ALL WHO WANT HI, and without mandates to buy HI.
Get used to a new way of thinking about HI that will actually work to achieve the objectives of AFFORDABILITY and AVAILABILITY.
If you keep repeating yourself about Palin and death panels, NO ONE is going to take you seriously or reply to your CHILDISH comments that have NO tie to the current situation.
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Wrong. HI worked fairly well until costs grew due to life altering drugs that rose in cost because of MEDICARE PART D – a Bush plan.
Tort laws also contribute to HI costs thru med mal premiums passed back to patients by HC providers.
Your hyperbole about Sarah Palin, etc. is irrelevant and seems to be the only criticism you are capable of spewing like sewage from a sewage pipe.
There is no sensible Conservative ho cares about what Sarah Palin said because she was hand-picked by McCain, a member of the Gang of Eight.
Your hyperbole about the GOP owning death panels is ALSO being ignored by Trump supporters because they are much better informed than Libitterals about these issues than libitterals following the marching orders of Dirty Grandpa from Vermont, Bernie, and Georgie Sore-ass. BTW; Georgie is being blocked in Europe from doing any more harm there…. so your bit-coin gravy train for posting $^%& on the internet is going to be de-railed very soon.
It is awesome watching our fiends from the right defend the incompetency and laziness of the Republicans.
They have had nearly 7 years to cobble their plans together into one, grand plan. They could have then spent the past 2+ months reconciling that plan with President-elect Trump so he could have something to sign on day one.
Instead, they spent their time trying to make President Obama a one-term president and repeal a law 60+ times that had zero chance of being repealed, just to make political points.
Ron, Obama knew his plan was fatally flawed early on and never considered any fixes to it. He arrogantly said he was pleased with it as it imploded.
He and you wanted Single Payer from the start. Designed ACA as a failure and lied over and over about it. Doing something over and over and hoping for a different result is stupid and lazy. We now have an energetic President who is busy undoing the mistakes of the past.
“they are much better informed than Libitterals about these issues than libitterals following the marching orders of Dirty Grandpa from Vermont, Bernie, and Georgie Sore-ass.”
Each day that passes, with more MAGA actions by TrumPresident, we will see the approval rating rise to a max bound by 100% – the % of the US population who are libitterals that prefer Socialist/ Communist policies.
METHODOLOGY WARNING (per website): “These dramatic changes, however, aren’t always long-lasting or a realistic measure…”
Your site admits their data is not a realistic measure. Great source.
Also, SMALL SAMPLE SIZE WARNING: “daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 500 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis”
DEMOGRAPHIC/AFFILIATION WARNING: The site does not say who they polled, what their political affiliation is, where they live, how old they are, etc.
A group of 500 random people whose demographic and political affiliations are unknown cannot be relied upon to say it’s an accurate representation to determine a nationwide approval rating, especially when the site admits the results aren’t a realistic measure
If you’d like to look at Bush, Clinton, Obama & Trump’s approval ratings as provided by this site as one unreliable data point to compare how they stack up with each other based on this company’s methodology, I’m listening.
That is not what I said. I will use less words this time.
If you want to look at Bush, Clinton, Obama & Trump’s approval ratings as provided by this site to compare how they stack up with each other based on this company’s methodology, I’m listening.
I found a good poll conducted by Gallup for 2 term Presidents. Obama was at 47.9% approval rating for his two terms and GW Bush was at 49.4%. Jimmy Carter was at 45.5%. Even the resigned Nixon was at 49.0%. The scandalous Slick Willy was at 55.1%. JFK was the highest, but he only lasted 3 years and we know what happened to him. Dwight Eisenhower was at 65% for the two terms.
January 27, 2017 at 9:44 am
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Confused is STILL working on an excuse for those numbers being misleading… except when, in limited time frames, they show Dems doing better than Republicans.
Confused will likely fail to discredit those numbers, Agent.
January 27, 2017 at 9:58 am
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Yogi is STILL trolling and adding nothing substantive to the conversation when he posts.
Hey young troll, you couldn’t even find the Health Application on Google and tried to tell me, a Health Agent for 25 years that I was lying about it. You have 0 credibility on this forum.
January 26, 2017 at 4:41 pm
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TrumPolar, for every order Trump does to do away with Obama’s orders and policies, his ratings improve a point. He should be at 87% in 30 days. The people just love a man of action bent on recovering this country. The liberals and RINO’s heads are spinning. He is results oriented and he told the Republican Retreat today that now is the time and he wasn’t waiting 2 years to fix problems.
The positive results from PresidenTrump’s actions will show Obama to be the failure he is, but which was hidden / obfuscated by the liberal media.
Positive results will also show capitalism and freedom from restrictive government regulation will trump socialism and government controls and regulations.
Here’s the thing:
* As long as you libiots permit illegal immigration and thereby support the passage of drugs, felons, cartels and terrorists into the US, you lose your privilege [not a right] to criticize lesser issues.
* As long as you libiots suppport sanctuary cities which harbor illegals and felons, you also lose your privilege to criticize lesser issues.
* As long as you lidiots set up huge illegal defense funds instead of feeding, clothing and providing medical/mental assistance to millions of homeless people, you loss your privilege to criticize lesser issues.
* As long as your fellow libiots disrespect the police, the President and the GOP — actions which you will live to fregret – you lose your privilege to criticize lesser issues.
I must have missed that day in history class when they said Freedom of Speech is not a right, it’s a privilege, and it can be taken away from you if you support non-Republican or non-conservative values.
Can you please cite the passage of the Constitution or the Bill of Rights where you got your information from?
mighty, we have already seen movement on the Sanctuary City front. Miami-Dade has already signaled that they will not be a Sanctuary city anymore. More will be following soon because those cities/counties really love that government money flowing their way. San Francisco & Chicago will be last to fall when they face bankruptcy.
People seeking freedom and self-determination around the globe have risen up to cast off socialist rule and the globalists attempt to unify nations to the detriment of those nations whose excellence resulted from capitalism, not socialism.
TrumPolar, you are correct. Europe is a total mess now and it is a good thing the Progressive Globalists will not be in charge of this great country. Make America Great Again.
TrumPolar, do you remember last week when the Progressives were arrogantly saying Obama had a bigger turnout for the Inauguration? They were probably right because so many Republicans were at work and couldn’t attend. The free loader Democrats had nothing better to do and their entitlement checks were in the mail. As I recall, it took DC sanitation about 2 weeks to clean up the mess they made.
All the talk about repealing and replacing Obamacare seems to be smoke from Trump. I have been so thankful for what he has done so far. All Obamacare has done for me is take my money and give practically no insurance in return. What Trump doesn’t seem to understand is that Obamacare forces middle class Americans to obtain insurance they cannot afford. And what makes the law communism is that the government is demanding people to have coverage and the penalizing them for not having coverage. I am more than satisfied with his efforts to control immigration–but if he continues the mandate that pretty much removes all my respect for him—already he is seeming more like the rest who through a little time breaks down and gives in to the establishment. I think for now Trump has my following and for the most part the rest of those who voted for him–but his hesitancy here will change that following in a huge way—-and he will be in for a big surprise for his support will swing quickly—what is the problem with Obamacare—THE MANDATE
Trump will be letting many people down if he continues the mandate. Likely this would cancel most of his supporters. I greatly resent middle class workers paying for the negligence of other people. Likewise, I am forced to have insurance when in the last 25 years one can count the number of times my wife or I have been to the doctor. Now, I am forced to carry insurance that we cannot afford and then robbed if we do not have insurance. And to think he is not sure if he will continue the mandate. THE MANDATE is the primary problem with Obamacare. I have been very pleased with how Trump has approached immigration–if we do not cease completely immigrating people who will not value our culture and laws we will soon-very soon be like Germany and the UK—-violence and fear around every corner. Government controlled health care is just another weapon of communism and the mandate is a big part of that problem.
Which 3 conservatives will win the prize for freaking out about not enforcing the laws he has sworn an oath on the Bible to enforce? It’s not a funding priority like many of Obama’s policies, but actual non-enforcement of laws.
There has been no violations of laws.
Once the EO is issued, the prior law is void.
WTH are you talking about?
Meanwhile, YOU LIBITTERALS completely ignore IMMIGRATION LAWS.
Hypocrite-squared!
TrumPolar, I hope you and others on this blog will go to today’s – 1-26-17 edition of Townhall.com and read the main story titled: Obamacare Architect: Actually our law was never intended to help everyone. Tucker Carlson ripped the now infamous professor liar Jonathon Gruber a new one on his show. Gruber had to make some interesting concessions to his massive lies about this law.
A law based on lies and passed in a strictly partisan way will not stand. It imploded and will be repealed and replaced.
So, is what Raggedy Kellyanne saying a fact or an alternative fact? I’m getting so confused with all the lying coming from her and her boss.
You’re confusing HRC and BHO with KC and DJT.
Try to keep them straight in the future.
Examples:
Benghazi was a spontaneous protest prompted by a youtube video (that only a few dozen people viewed).
If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. Substitutw ‘doctor’ for ‘plan’ for another such lie.
Your premiums will decrease by an avg of $2500.
I learned about the emails from the press, like everyone else.
TrumPolar, the thing the Progressive Liberals are so mad about it that they got caught. They made it awfully easy to hack HRC, DNC and Podesta emails. When you have a password as “password”, a 12 year old could hack it. Progressive arrogance is really a bad problem for them. They are criminals as well.
Psst: Podesta’s new password is ‘123456789’. He changed it ‘recently’ (i.e. on 11/9/2016) from ‘PodestaNextSecofState’.
You complain that PRESIDENT TRUMP will do away with obamacare, now you complain that he will let it ride for now but may not force people to have to buy it?
Liberals and Libitterals always complain about compliance.
The odd thing, though, is that they LOVE to establish new, restrictive and inefficient regulations to comply with.
Further, Congressional Libitterals who voted for the ACA in 2009 exempted themselves from compliance. Later, they exempted 2000+ of their ‘buddies’ (unions, companies) from compliance with the ACA.
Liberals are Exemptions / Compliance hypocrites!
Libitterals are in defiance of compliance when it furthers their liberal agendas.
As long as the issues are fixed, I dont really care what they call it.
OBama had years to address the problem including the enrollment process as well as the foreign call centers that could care less about what they shoved down peoples throats.
Changes I want to see happen is put it back in the hands of local agent. Enrollment by Birth Month. Get rid of that web site.
The long run plan was Single Payer.
Look at the slow implementation, and timing of penalties for not insuring, as an example. Once it became so severe that people sought an ACA policy, adverse selection had already set in motion a ‘fatal’ death spiral.
Look for ‘HEALTH CARE SPECIFICCS’ in the next few days, or two weeks, as integral parts of the plan to be proposed.
HEA = Health Expense Accounts.
CS = Cost Savings.
More later.
Libitterals are upset with people who expose their hypocrisy. It makes them look foolish and, well,… bitter.
one of the Is = Interstate.
Stay tuned for more ‘HEALTH CARE SPECIFICCS’ as Congress and TrumPresident reveals the finalist plans.
Finalist plans? Is this anything like the Miss Universe finalists? Will the plan be “golden” ???
No, no, and no.
Pay attention in the future.
Single Payer is in the trash barrel now, much to the chagrin of Progressives. Best laid plans of mice and men sometimes go awry.
By the way, up to 75% of regulations will be going away soon. EPA will lead the pack in dismantled regulations.
There’s not a Single Prayer for Single Payer.
Make Health Insurance and Health Care Affordable, Available, and Great Again!
TrumPolar, saw another really good political cartoon today which is pertinent to this discussion.
Picture a patient on the operating table and our former Dr. Potus. The patient has an octopus covering his whole face and is named Obamacare. The former Dr.Potus says to the Republican – Are you crazy? If you remove it now, it might kill him.
Hi FFA, I am sure you remember in Wisconsin the lawmakers opposing Scott Walker disappearing into neighboring states rather than show up and do their job. It appears we have the same things going on in the halls of Congress not showing up for hearings on important business like confirming Trump’s appointees and the next Supreme Court justice. Guess how Wisconsin turned out and how DC will turn out. Hope the citizens of their states are paying attention and will send them packing in 2018.
Finally, the new Trumpcare Health Plan has been unveiled. Hell, no, you don’t have to buy health insurance — just go to the emergency room and stick everyone else with your medical bill. Don’t worry about people with health care plans going to the emergency room in an emergency — they will just have to wait behind those who couldn’t be bothered to pay premiums like honest people.
Another lie. Sad, bad libitterals can’t handle defeat graciously. Will lie about RNC not having a plan and lie about any plan that is mentioned.
Dear TrumpPolarBear, plan, what plan? No one has seen a stinking plan from the GOP. You’ve have had 6-8 years, where is your freaking plan?
As for handling defeat graciously, your messiah cannot handle losing the popular vote. Talk about a sore winner.
PS: Loved this chant from the women’s march:
We want a leader, not a pervy tweeter…
I’ve seen a plan. As far as revealing them to libitterals here, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore approach. Go fish!
TrumPolarBear, the plan you’ve seen must be the same study that Trump saw for voter fraud. That is, there is no plan and no study.
Yogi – you wrote “I’ve seen a plan.” Just one? Aren’t there at least half a dozen GOP plans floating around, none of which are actually all-encompassing?
I’ve seen a detailed plan recently. It is copyrighted, so it cannot be revealed now. Some of it’s components are ‘public’; e.g. health savings accounts, which I can mention.
Pieces of the plan are being used by the people now in power to draft legislation.
As far as revealing ANY plan details to rude, vulgar, BOT-happy libitterals, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore route…. GO FISH!
“As far as revealing ANY plan details to rude, vulgar, BOT-happy libitterals, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore route…. GO FISH!”
Cool. Cool cool cool. Since I’m not rude, vulgar, I don’t vote on this site and I voted Republican in the last 8 mid-term elections and never voted for Obama nor Hillary, please tell me the details. Thank you.
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I’ve seen a detailed plan recently. It is copyrighted, so it cannot be revealed now. Some of it’s components are ‘public’; e.g. health savings accounts, which I can mention.
Pieces of the plan are being used by the people now in power to draft legislation.
As far as revealing ANY plan details to rude, vulgar, BOT-happy libitterals, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore route…. GO FISH!
RE-POSTED because you posted your comment again without responding to my comment:
“As far as revealing ANY plan details to rude, vulgar, BOT-happy libitterals, I’m taking the Nancy Pelosi Galore route…. GO FISH!”
Cool. Cool cool cool. Since I’m not rude, vulgar, I don’t vote on this site and I voted Republican in the last 8 mid-term elections and never voted for Obama nor Hillary, please tell me the details. Thank you.
The US government does not copyright policy plans. TrumPolarBear is so desperate to prove that the GOP has had health care plans that she/he resorts to making stuff up – just like Trump.
It isn’t the US govt plan. Your linear thought process won’t get you too far in these discussions.
TrumpetPolarBear, it was a foregone conclusion that it was not a GOP plan — because they do not have any. One can only conclude you are alluding to your company’s plan being copyrighted. Naturally, you will do your best to screw the public, of that I am not sure.
Wrong again.
GOP planS are being cobbled together by a team to develop the best features and make it work to REDUCE COSTS and eliminate bureacracy / red tape / regulations that are INEFFICIENT and COSTLY.
Private plans are PART of the GOP plan approach.
Your narrow-minded thinking that the GOVERNMENT must control the HI arena is your fault/ error/ mistake. It seems you are unable to think of a world without the govt controlling everything they shouldn’t meddle in.
Actuaries are analyzing impacts of tort reforms, by state.
Libitterals will blow a fuse when they realize Republicans are FIXING something badly broken by Dems.
Nancy Pelosi Galore won’t be unable to understand the actuarial analyses. Harry Reid was glad he was on the govt plan when he was mugged by his exercise equipment, but will envy the Republicans new plan. Kerry and Pelosi will be glad they’re going to get Govt Health Care benefits to pick up botox treatments for life because the Republican Plan won’t cover such healt, er, vanity care.
Celtica and other Libitterals in this sub thread are arguing for the sake of arguing, and doing so with the intent of baiting and faking knowledge while doing so.
It suggests George Sore-ass is still BIT-COIN funding spammers to CENSOR Conservative thoughts and news about TrumPresident’s successes in office.
Arguing that plans are not a single plan or are not (a) government plan(s) is moot and argumentative, and is not a constructive or mature approach to discussion on a comment board.
There are NO REQUIREMENTS that plan proposals be unified, singular, government driven, or published immediately. Get over your childish temper tantrums!
Attention Libitterals: Ponder the implications of ALL OF YOUR RECENT LIES about ‘no plans exist to replace ACA’.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/health-insurers-quietly-shape-obamacare-replacement-fewer-risks-171121303–sector.html
Your credibility, if it EVER existed, is now GONE!
ONE KEY EXCERPT THAT PROVES YOU LIE TO FURTHER YOUR LOSER LIBERAL AGENDA (e.g. “Grandma, Grandpa and POOR PEOPLE are going to LOSE/be without coverage, and will die.”):
“They emphasize that it is crucial to keep government subsidies for low income people.”
Don’t reply until you READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE, which partially exposes Libitterals lies about the REPLACEMENT for ACA.
BOT this post all you want; it can EASILY be re-posted once it is posted…
Those are INSURER plans, not government plans, you twit. As for the death panels, you and Sarah Palin own those, lock, stock and barrel.
INSURER plans are invalid, but GOVT plans are the ONLY proper plans? WTF? WHO gave you the power to determine the proper way to fix the problems created by ACA?
I don’t care one iota about Sarah Palin’s words. I am results oriented.
The plans are NOT government plans — but HEALTH INSURER PLANS. By the way, you, Sarah Palin and the GOP own the death panel. Period.
Wrong. HI worked fairly well until costs grew due to life altering drugs that rose in cost because of MEDICARE PART D – a Bush plan.
Tort laws also contribute to HI costs thru med mal premiums passed back to patients by HC providers.
Your hyperbole about Sarah Palin, etc. is irrelevant and seems to be the only criticism you are capable of spewing like sewage from a sewage pipe.
There is no sensible Conservative ho cares about what Sarah Palin said because she was hand-picked by McCain, a member of the Gang of Eight.
Your hyperbole about the GOP owning death panels is ALSO being ignored by Trump supporters because they are much better informed than Libitterals about these issues than libitterals following the marching orders of Dirty Grandpa from Vermont, Bernie, and Georgie Sore-ass. BTW; Georgie is being blocked in Europe from doing any more harm there…. so your bit-coin gravy train for posting $^%& on the internet is going to be de-railed very soon.
Period.
PS The GOVT ‘Plans’ are not GOVT RUN HI PLANS. The plans are bills and exec orders intended to fix tort laws and lessen regulations, to ultimately ALLOW PRIVATE INSURERS to provide HI efficiently and effectively, at a lower cost, to ALL WHO WANT HI, and without mandates to buy HI.
Get used to a new way of thinking about HI that will actually work to achieve the objectives of AFFORDABILITY and AVAILABILITY.
If you keep repeating yourself about Palin and death panels, NO ONE is going to take you seriously or reply to your CHILDISH comments that have NO tie to the current situation.
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Wrong. HI worked fairly well until costs grew due to life altering drugs that rose in cost because of MEDICARE PART D – a Bush plan.
Tort laws also contribute to HI costs thru med mal premiums passed back to patients by HC providers.
Your hyperbole about Sarah Palin, etc. is irrelevant and seems to be the only criticism you are capable of spewing like sewage from a sewage pipe.
There is no sensible Conservative ho cares about what Sarah Palin said because she was hand-picked by McCain, a member of the Gang of Eight.
Your hyperbole about the GOP owning death panels is ALSO being ignored by Trump supporters because they are much better informed than Libitterals about these issues than libitterals following the marching orders of Dirty Grandpa from Vermont, Bernie, and Georgie Sore-ass. BTW; Georgie is being blocked in Europe from doing any more harm there…. so your bit-coin gravy train for posting $^%& on the internet is going to be de-railed very soon.
Period.
Well Celtic, bring on the experts- not the people that think they know whats best for us.
It is awesome watching our fiends from the right defend the incompetency and laziness of the Republicans.
They have had nearly 7 years to cobble their plans together into one, grand plan. They could have then spent the past 2+ months reconciling that plan with President-elect Trump so he could have something to sign on day one.
Instead, they spent their time trying to make President Obama a one-term president and repeal a law 60+ times that had zero chance of being repealed, just to make political points.
Ron, recall that the GOP was known as the party of Do Nothing — and that is exactly what they did – NOTHING.
Ron, Obama knew his plan was fatally flawed early on and never considered any fixes to it. He arrogantly said he was pleased with it as it imploded.
He and you wanted Single Payer from the start. Designed ACA as a failure and lied over and over about it. Doing something over and over and hoping for a different result is stupid and lazy. We now have an energetic President who is busy undoing the mistakes of the past.
It is awesome knowing libitterals who insult other posters here will soon be banned.
It can’t come soon enough TrumPolar.
I got another email from the powers that be. Rodeo roundup time is coming soon.
Insults like this?
“they are much better informed than Libitterals about these issues than libitterals following the marching orders of Dirty Grandpa from Vermont, Bernie, and Georgie Sore-ass.”
PresidenTrump approval rating rises from 57% to 59% in one dy, per Rassmussen poll.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_jan26
Each day that passes, with more MAGA actions by TrumPresident, we will see the approval rating rise to a max bound by 100% – the % of the US population who are libitterals that prefer Socialist/ Communist policies.
METHODOLOGY WARNING (per website): “These dramatic changes, however, aren’t always long-lasting or a realistic measure…”
Your site admits their data is not a realistic measure. Great source.
Also, SMALL SAMPLE SIZE WARNING: “daily tracking results are collected via telephone surveys of 500 likely voters per night and reported on a three-day rolling average basis”
DEMOGRAPHIC/AFFILIATION WARNING: The site does not say who they polled, what their political affiliation is, where they live, how old they are, etc.
A group of 500 random people whose demographic and political affiliations are unknown cannot be relied upon to say it’s an accurate representation to determine a nationwide approval rating, especially when the site admits the results aren’t a realistic measure
If you’d like to look at Bush, Clinton, Obama & Trump’s approval ratings as provided by this site as one unreliable data point to compare how they stack up with each other based on this company’s methodology, I’m listening.
So, Rasmussen’s approval ratings are irrelevant for Trump but valid for Dem POTUSes?
That is not what I said. I will use less words this time.
If you want to look at Bush, Clinton, Obama & Trump’s approval ratings as provided by this site to compare how they stack up with each other based on this company’s methodology, I’m listening.
I found a good poll conducted by Gallup for 2 term Presidents. Obama was at 47.9% approval rating for his two terms and GW Bush was at 49.4%. Jimmy Carter was at 45.5%. Even the resigned Nixon was at 49.0%. The scandalous Slick Willy was at 55.1%. JFK was the highest, but he only lasted 3 years and we know what happened to him. Dwight Eisenhower was at 65% for the two terms.
Confused is STILL working on an excuse for those numbers being misleading… except when, in limited time frames, they show Dems doing better than Republicans.
Confused will likely fail to discredit those numbers, Agent.
Yogi is STILL trolling and adding nothing substantive to the conversation when he posts.
Hey young troll, you couldn’t even find the Health Application on Google and tried to tell me, a Health Agent for 25 years that I was lying about it. You have 0 credibility on this forum.
TrumPolar, for every order Trump does to do away with Obama’s orders and policies, his ratings improve a point. He should be at 87% in 30 days. The people just love a man of action bent on recovering this country. The liberals and RINO’s heads are spinning. He is results oriented and he told the Republican Retreat today that now is the time and he wasn’t waiting 2 years to fix problems.
The positive results from PresidenTrump’s actions will show Obama to be the failure he is, but which was hidden / obfuscated by the liberal media.
Positive results will also show capitalism and freedom from restrictive government regulation will trump socialism and government controls and regulations.
87% approval rating in 30 days? Ha! Best laugh all week.
Here’s the thing:
* As long as you libiots permit illegal immigration and thereby support the passage of drugs, felons, cartels and terrorists into the US, you lose your privilege [not a right] to criticize lesser issues.
* As long as you libiots suppport sanctuary cities which harbor illegals and felons, you also lose your privilege to criticize lesser issues.
* As long as you lidiots set up huge illegal defense funds instead of feeding, clothing and providing medical/mental assistance to millions of homeless people, you loss your privilege to criticize lesser issues.
* As long as your fellow libiots disrespect the police, the President and the GOP — actions which you will live to fregret – you lose your privilege to criticize lesser issues.
I must have missed that day in history class when they said Freedom of Speech is not a right, it’s a privilege, and it can be taken away from you if you support non-Republican or non-conservative values.
Can you please cite the passage of the Constitution or the Bill of Rights where you got your information from?
Did you attend UCal Berkely or just think like them?
mighty, we have already seen movement on the Sanctuary City front. Miami-Dade has already signaled that they will not be a Sanctuary city anymore. More will be following soon because those cities/counties really love that government money flowing their way. San Francisco & Chicago will be last to fall when they face bankruptcy.
First, Brexit on 6/23/16.
Second, TrumPresident on 11/8/16.
Third TrumPresident repeals the most offensive aspects of ACA.
Now, a rebuke of GS will soon occur all over Europe;
http://www.infowars.com/stop-soros-movement-sweeps-europe/
People seeking freedom and self-determination around the globe have risen up to cast off socialist rule and the globalists attempt to unify nations to the detriment of those nations whose excellence resulted from capitalism, not socialism.
TrumPolar, you are correct. Europe is a total mess now and it is a good thing the Progressive Globalists will not be in charge of this great country. Make America Great Again.
TrumPolar, do you remember last week when the Progressives were arrogantly saying Obama had a bigger turnout for the Inauguration? They were probably right because so many Republicans were at work and couldn’t attend. The free loader Democrats had nothing better to do and their entitlement checks were in the mail. As I recall, it took DC sanitation about 2 weeks to clean up the mess they made.
All the talk about repealing and replacing Obamacare seems to be smoke from Trump. I have been so thankful for what he has done so far. All Obamacare has done for me is take my money and give practically no insurance in return. What Trump doesn’t seem to understand is that Obamacare forces middle class Americans to obtain insurance they cannot afford. And what makes the law communism is that the government is demanding people to have coverage and the penalizing them for not having coverage. I am more than satisfied with his efforts to control immigration–but if he continues the mandate that pretty much removes all my respect for him—already he is seeming more like the rest who through a little time breaks down and gives in to the establishment. I think for now Trump has my following and for the most part the rest of those who voted for him–but his hesitancy here will change that following in a huge way—-and he will be in for a big surprise for his support will swing quickly—what is the problem with Obamacare—THE MANDATE
Trump will be letting many people down if he continues the mandate. Likely this would cancel most of his supporters. I greatly resent middle class workers paying for the negligence of other people. Likewise, I am forced to have insurance when in the last 25 years one can count the number of times my wife or I have been to the doctor. Now, I am forced to carry insurance that we cannot afford and then robbed if we do not have insurance. And to think he is not sure if he will continue the mandate. THE MANDATE is the primary problem with Obamacare. I have been very pleased with how Trump has approached immigration–if we do not cease completely immigrating people who will not value our culture and laws we will soon-very soon be like Germany and the UK—-violence and fear around every corner. Government controlled health care is just another weapon of communism and the mandate is a big part of that problem.