The teenagers suit should be dismissed early based on the sovereign immunity of the government. Unless of course, it gets into the 9th Circus. Those liberal judges will do anything.
If this suit gets any “legs” at all, it will open up the Fed’s to a myriad of “Constitutional Rights” suits based on govt decisions.
I thought that sovereign immunity only applied when the court attempting to try the government wasn’t domestic. Like I couldn’t sue the government of Canada in America but I might be able to do it if I did it in a Canadian court.
After looking more into it out of curiosity, I was wrong. Apparently that is just the general case. Specifically, the USA’s federal government must consent to be sued in order to bypass sovereign immunity.
People sue the government for constitutional violations all the time. Sovereign immunity is irrelevant. I’m not a lawyer, but I think in order to be successful, they have to prove that the government is responsible for climate change, and that they have a constitutional right to a clean environment. Neither one is something they can remotely prove. Most likely, their attorney explained this to them. What I think they want, is to force the government to make arguments to the court, on the record, contesting climate change. They can then attack their argument using the legal tests for scientific reliability. In short, they know they’ll lose…they are hoping the Court finds that climate change is real (or at least the deniers arguments bogus) from a legal standpoint in their decision to dismiss.
Thank you agent. I think there are one or two people left on this site who wondered what you thought on the topic. I wasn’t commenting on who’s right or wrong, because I have done that before. I was commenting that the goal of the plaintiffs was to try and get far enough to prove that “Climate Hoaxers” as you call them, have science that legally meets the Daubert standard, or even that the deniers do not (maybe they do, I don’t know, I’m just saying that’s their goal). If they get that far, it won’t matter if they lose. They’ll be halfway to getting a US court to legally recognize man’s impact on climate change. If that happens, the political debate becomes academic. That is because corporations will change what they do, not for political reasons, but to avoid class-action lawsuits. Which means the “Hoaxers” win without having to convince deniers that they are right.
AlGrrr looks pretty bad. He may not live long enough to collect his carbon credit millions. Wonder if those ocean waves are lapping up against his door yet.
While the lawsuit itself seems dumb I bet college admissions officers would go bonkers over it. Who needs Civics Club when you can sue the government.
The teenagers suit should be dismissed early based on the sovereign immunity of the government. Unless of course, it gets into the 9th Circus. Those liberal judges will do anything.
If this suit gets any “legs” at all, it will open up the Fed’s to a myriad of “Constitutional Rights” suits based on govt decisions.
God forbid that anyone argue with teenagers over any subject.
I thought that sovereign immunity only applied when the court attempting to try the government wasn’t domestic. Like I couldn’t sue the government of Canada in America but I might be able to do it if I did it in a Canadian court.
After looking more into it out of curiosity, I was wrong. Apparently that is just the general case. Specifically, the USA’s federal government must consent to be sued in order to bypass sovereign immunity.
Perhaps the teens should have ALSO looked into their plan before jumping into it, based on brainwashing by their ignorant and biased liberal teachers?
People sue the government for constitutional violations all the time. Sovereign immunity is irrelevant. I’m not a lawyer, but I think in order to be successful, they have to prove that the government is responsible for climate change, and that they have a constitutional right to a clean environment. Neither one is something they can remotely prove. Most likely, their attorney explained this to them. What I think they want, is to force the government to make arguments to the court, on the record, contesting climate change. They can then attack their argument using the legal tests for scientific reliability. In short, they know they’ll lose…they are hoping the Court finds that climate change is real (or at least the deniers arguments bogus) from a legal standpoint in their decision to dismiss.
Actually, it is the Climate Hoaxers arguments that are bogus.
Thank you agent. I think there are one or two people left on this site who wondered what you thought on the topic. I wasn’t commenting on who’s right or wrong, because I have done that before. I was commenting that the goal of the plaintiffs was to try and get far enough to prove that “Climate Hoaxers” as you call them, have science that legally meets the Daubert standard, or even that the deniers do not (maybe they do, I don’t know, I’m just saying that’s their goal). If they get that far, it won’t matter if they lose. They’ll be halfway to getting a US court to legally recognize man’s impact on climate change. If that happens, the political debate becomes academic. That is because corporations will change what they do, not for political reasons, but to avoid class-action lawsuits. Which means the “Hoaxers” win without having to convince deniers that they are right.
Climate changes. Some men’s ignorance and arrogance about their impact on it never does.
Al Gore is going to bust a vein over TrumPresident’s efforts to MAGA.
http://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2017/05/31/452701.htm/?comments#comment-4514605
Has Al sold his beach front villa yet? Time is short before it’s under ocean waters!
Oops! wrong link above.
THIS is the one I meant to post:
http://www.thewrap.com/al-gores-inconvenient-sequel-final-cut-feature-trump-climate-accord-exit/
AlGrrr looks pretty bad. He may not live long enough to collect his carbon credit millions. Wonder if those ocean waves are lapping up against his door yet.