Drivers Aren’t Going Away Anytime Soon, Say Driverless Car Leaders

By and | January 9, 2018

  • January 9, 2018 at 12:51 pm
    DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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    Ruh Roh! This dashes the dreams of some millenial tree huggers hoping to see electricity powered escape pods in the near future.

    • January 9, 2018 at 12:56 pm
      Rosenblatt says:
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      Anyone who knows anything about driverless vehicles and the phases in which it will be rolling out understands this is a long-term process (~10 years) and not an instant gratification situation.

      Why you decided to insult a whole group of people who hadn’t even commented for apparently no reason at all baffles me – are you unable to post unless you insult someone? FWIW, I’m not a millennial.

      • January 9, 2018 at 5:48 pm
        DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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        It is a continuation of an ongoing adversarial relationship on this issue, aimed only at millenials who read IJ comments. Thanks for sticking your nose into the matter not involving you, to provide more evidence of antagonism / trolling.

        I know nothing about cars; I travel on a floating iceberg. I do know the transition isn’t going to happen soon. I don’t see how you read that from my short post. Please note my use of the adjective ‘some’ somewhere in my post.

    • January 10, 2018 at 12:48 pm
      UW says:
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      Self-driving cars have nothing to do with electric vehicles or your moronic desire to destroy the environment to stick it to liberals, because that’s most of your “ideology.”

  • January 9, 2018 at 1:29 pm
    Barry Rabkin says:
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    Figure 30 years before there are even 50% of the vehicles on US highways/roads/streets

    • January 9, 2018 at 2:54 pm
      Agent says:
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      It may be 10 years before even 5% of the total vehicles are autonomous. The scariest thought is autonomous 18 wheelers weighing 80,000 GVW barreling down and a sensor fails making a pancake out of what it hits.

      • January 9, 2018 at 3:03 pm
        Confused says:
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        you know what’s even scarier , agent? those automated 18 wheelers are ALREADY on the road with us and you had no idea because they didn’t pancake anyone yet!!!

        • January 10, 2018 at 6:56 am
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          How many are on the road now? Reply with a number and a source. Ready, steady, …. GO!

          • January 10, 2018 at 8:07 am
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Being unable to cite an actual number backed by studies does not mean automated 18-wheelers are not actually in use right now, troll.

          • January 11, 2018 at 2:12 pm
            Agent says:
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            Polar, if one of these autonomous trolls spouts off and says there are 5 on the road, they would say it was widespread use. These are the same guys who spout off that Manmade Global Warming is ruining the planet.

          • January 11, 2018 at 2:39 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            You must not be talking about me, Agent, since I didn’t quantify how many were on the road (some, few, many, all … … I didn’t say – I just said they were already on the road, which they are whether you like to admit it or not)

      • January 9, 2018 at 4:02 pm
        Dave says:
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        We insure thousands of commercial vehicles driving around our streets and highways, and the millions and millions we’ve paid in losses. Not saying that there are not concerns out there with driverless cars. But many of those driven by humans are just as dangerous if not more so than automated cars once the technology is there.

        • January 11, 2018 at 8:59 am
          Sources says:
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          Dave,

          100% – there are a lot of bad/unsafe trucking companies out there. The margins are so small, unfortunately, most companies will do whatever they can to make a profit. Most of the time that means using equipment that might as well be falling apart, and pushing the drivers past their hours of duty. those 80,000lbs trucks are weapons. The massive amount of accidents, claims, and large settlements are causing the large increases most of these companies have been seeing in the past 2 years – and will be seeing for some time.

  • January 9, 2018 at 2:30 pm
    J Black says:
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    We were told just last year by the so called experts from google and uber that we would be using them within 5 years. So apparently that’s not correct? Well I am really surprised that the experts don’t know what their talking about. what else are they wrong about?

    • January 9, 2018 at 5:50 pm
      DNCs Coll(F)usion GPShip Strzok an IceberGowdy says:
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      Speak to Rosenblatt about that time horizon thing. He believes otherwise.

      • January 10, 2018 at 8:06 am
        Rosenblatt says:
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        5 years =/= 10 years as I already posted above, so no, I don’t believe what Google & Uber projected. Nice attempt at trolling, though!

    • January 10, 2018 at 12:03 pm
      CarrierGuy says:
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      “Making predictions is hard, especially about the future.” – Yogi Berra
      These folks make their best guesses based on their understanding of the tech and the challenges, because everyone is dying to know what’s going to happen. But then reality intrudes, some things are harder than they first appeared, new tech breakthroughs mean other things are easier, and they adjust.
      We have the same thing with plenty of other issues, including Natural Language Processing (totally ready to go in 2000?), wearable tech, alternative energy, etc. News media want solid predictions, but no one really knows.
      “Difficult to see. Always in motion is the future..” – Yoda

      • January 10, 2018 at 12:29 pm
        Rosenblatt says:
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        Well put. To steal a movie quote and make it “my own” reply: what you just said is NOT one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard … everyone in this room is now NOT dumber for having listened to it

      • January 10, 2018 at 4:39 pm
        Agent says:
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        Yogi also said that when you reach a fork in the road, take it. Progressive trolls should take it and disappear for about 30 years.

        • January 10, 2018 at 4:51 pm
          Rosenblatt says:
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          enough with the insults already

          • January 11, 2018 at 2:14 pm
            Agent says:
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            Enough of calling people trolls. I believe that is an insult.

          • January 11, 2018 at 2:42 pm
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Okay Agent – I promise I’ll stop calling people trolls if you stop insulting millennials, liberals, people from east coast states, those who think climate change is occurring, people who are for medicinal marijuana and folks from other countries.

          • January 12, 2018 at 2:24 pm
            helpingout says:
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            Agent, what about your other response about progressive trolls. Will you no longer be calling anyone (or group) trolls?

  • January 10, 2018 at 12:46 pm
    UW says:
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    Finally something halfway realistic on this. These will never work as advertised in cities, or probably elsewhere. There are too many gray areas where people have to break laws to avoid stopping traffic. Take older cities like Boston, Chicago parts of NY and LA: they have no turn signals in ba lot of areas, so turning cars pull into the intersecting waiting to turn and people pass on the right hand side in order to go straight. These cars have to be programmed to know when to do this, and see around the cars ahead of them. They also have to know to pull into the intersection to allow cars to pass, and if they don’t do this or technically run the light turning left after it changes, they will be there hours, blocking all traffic behind them, or will have to update their routes. Add on similar things when it comes to picking up passengers, passing double-parked cars, etc.

    What is the solution? They say it in the end:Increased government spending on infrastructure. This would be much better used for things like increased public transportation or maintaining existing roads that aren’t specifically designed for vaporware that won’t ever work.

    • January 11, 2018 at 2:16 pm
      Agent says:
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      Finally a decent post by UW. I am shocked. You are right about the traffic jams. That computer will be overloaded and probably just shut down like PC’s often do.

  • January 11, 2018 at 5:52 pm
    Mark S. says:
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    As a Blade Runner fan, forget driverless cars. I want my flying car! Based on the first movie, we were supposed to have spinners by now…

    • January 15, 2018 at 2:54 pm
      Agent says:
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      George Jetson has not yet arrived.



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