I have to laugh when I hear Cardinal fans up for their annual Cubs trip north discuss how dangerous things are in Chicago. Between the violent crime and the entire north area of St. Louis being a radiation dump site you have to wonder about the long term affects on the local gene pool.
You must have believed they WERE honest and believable at some point in the past, yes? Can you pinpoint an exact moment in time – say, a specific year – when you changed your mind (which, of course, is your right to do)?
I don’t know why there is ‘value’ in determining the exact point in time when I changed MY mind about the credibility / integrity of the FBI. But, if I must choose, I select October 1, 1970 at 8:25 pm. This was during the sixth season of the FBI TV show, starring Efram Zimbalist, Jr.
You may not see the point, but it’s relevant and important. Also, I wasn’t asking you – you hadn’t posted anything yet. But hey, if you want to answer seriously and not reference a TV show that aired before you were even born, go ahead.
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Polar, there are good people in the FBI, but unfortunately, they aren’t the ones making the decisions that the corrupt leadership have been making. They have been tools of the Democratic leadership and working day and night to undermine and resist truth. Couple that with the equally corrupt DOJ and you have the formation of a coup attempt at our great President. Nothing would ever have come out had the wicked witch of the East been elected. Sure would have liked to know the real story on the tarmac meeting. Quite sure the subjects were not grandchildren and golf.
May 9, 2018 at 11:15 am
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Agent, keep peddling conspiracy theories while actual hard evidence of hard corruption keeps coming out, thanks to the hardworking men and women (overwhelmingly Republican, by the way) at the FBI and their dedication to the truth.
I don’t always trust the CIA, they have been involved in too many regime changes and covert operations, but the FBI is up to snuff and run with what I feel is genuine patriotism, not partyism like what you feel on a minute-by-minute basis.
May 10, 2018 at 2:58 pm
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Agent and PolarBeaRepeal are the same person. He made up this person when Bob ghosted on him for a little while so he would have someone else that “agrees” with him. Probably also to make it look like he isn’t on IJ ALL DAY LONG. But as he has said before, he owns his agency, so he can play all day and make silly unsupported points or remarks back and forth to himself as agent and Polar…the Polar part is right, just need the ‘Bi’ in front of Polar. Tighten up Mike!
May 21, 2018 at 4:11 pm
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Polar, Rosenblatt thinks the FBI is honest and trustworthy, even back to the Obama years. Who is Stefan Halper, the newly discovered mole Obama placed in the Trump campaign to try to discredit our great President? The FBI and DOJ couldn’t be more corrupt.
May 10, 2018 at 1:13 pm
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“You must have believed they WERE honest and believable at some point in the past, yes? Can you pinpoint an exact moment in time – say, a specific year – when you changed your mind (which, of course, is your right to do)?”
The way the question is asked is wrong. I will also quickly say the above Bob wasn’t me.
But moving on:
You often try to appear unbiased, and ask a question like this, which shows how you think.
You go case by case with the FBI, corruption by corruption. Not year by year and date by date.
Moving off of that:
The FBI has shown they aren’t trustworthy. Ever. They have been more trustworthy at certain points than others, but the answer is: Never. They should not exist. The KGB is how Putin got to power in point A. In point B it is extremely clear that both parties have tried to abuse the FBI in the past to bring down political opponents.
And worse than that: Numerous times the FBI has taken actions which show it may have assisted in assassinations of people. No, I don’t mean Kennedy. I mean regular Joes, and when they haven’t done that, they have collected information on people.
The way I asked the question was wrong? Fine. Let me rephrase:
Agent – did you ever think the FBI was trustworthy? If so, when did you think that? What changed your mind?
Does that work for you bob?
May 10, 2018 at 3:48 pm
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Yes, actually.
And it’s not about me. It’s about proper logic. The way you asked it was clearly geared more in line with “I’m going to prove you only don’t trust the FBI when a republican is in office” and less with “What makes you not trust the FBI”.
Don’t try to tell me that isn’t what you were doing. Roughly 50% of your questions with Agent and Polar are setting up similar scenarios to prove bias to discredit their then present argument, more than to prove points on the present argument. The later is fair, the former is not.
May 10, 2018 at 4:14 pm
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The two versions of what I asked get at the same exact thing — Agent implied he used to believe the FBI was trustworthy, but now he doesn’t think that way, and I’d like to know when and why he changed his mind.
I’m glad my 2nd version gets the bob seal of approval (I am not being sarcastic) … maybe Agent will answer me now that he sees you approved of how I phrased the question.
May 10, 2018 at 12:59 pm
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Uh, but their track record for honesty is exponentially stronger than is Tramp’s, and you fully support him. So, what gives?
Purveyor of “Fake News”. Insulter of our great President. Hey, the Democrats agenda is going up in smoke now. Move to Venezuela and you will be happier.
Purveyor of fake news? I don’t work for Fox. I’m perfectly happy right here, Agent. I don’t live my life in fear and anger. That’s the Hannity narrative you subscribe to. Cheers my friend, I’m going golfing!
May 21, 2018 at 4:13 pm
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Planet, please explain to the class who Stefan Halper is.
May 8, 2018 at 2:06 pm
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Hard to believe Jackson, MS didn’t make the list. Folks, it’s dangerous here!
but Agent, they DID NOT exclude larger cities! they even explained WHY you’re not seeing those locations in the list. you may want to re-read the article to make sure your replies are fact based.
Wrong one again, as you have been on literally almost everything you’ve ever stated that can be fact checked. They list cities and specifically large cities, genius. If most of these studies included small cities instead of limiting them to 100k+ people, Chicago and many other large cities would be even further down the list.
Of course you have to immediately create an unfounded conspiracy theory because the data in the story you most likely didn’t read didn’t match what your want to be true, so you can poorly try to make your stupid political points.
Chicago and Detroit have lost much of their population due to how the Progressive Left have governed for decades. Much safer for our soldiers in the Middle East than the streets of these two demented cities.
Moronic. The reason Detroit crashed was because Reagan and Bush shipped manufacturing jobs out of America with the help of sone Democrats, and Michigan’s entire economy was based on manufacturing. Detroit has had a massive rebound, update your idiotic talking points. Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the nation and most of the people leaving are either poor and going to nearby Indiana, or were from Greater Chicago, ie the suburbs, not really Chicago. Chicago has the most high rises being built in the nation and was 1st in corporate relocations and expansions from 2013-16.
Sounds like it’s just completely crashing. Now say the corporate relocations are nothing even though you cite the 2 you know almost daily as proof Texas is great.
Which is it? Did the manufacturing jobs go or are they leaving due to us not being able to compete?
I’ve seen you say before manufacturing will never come back, which seems to mean you cannot blame Reagan and Bush when it benefits you and then make excuses when it comes to Obama. Also, how specifically did they ship the jobs out? Name the bill, the process, etc?
I do not see a huge decline specifically in line with George HW or Reagan outside of normal trends. It’s a dip for HW, but not huge. More concerning is 2001 to 2007. If tax rates are even partially behind this huge dip, and falling behind in competitive nature, and we got it back up to 2001 levels (still bad) we would have more than another 1 million jobs. At even $45k annual income, which is definitely assuming low, you have 45 billion of revenues for the poor per year.
We can get more manufacturing jobs back. When looking at what jobs reshored in 2016, most were from China, by a huge margin. This is basically China being cheaper, and subsidizing certain markets which are otherwise higher cost.
In other words: Stopping China and lowering rates are critical. We are already seeing manufacturing jobs begin to come back. Now we need a larger effort to stop China and build on it.
bob–
That was well put, factual, brief, and avoided any personal attacks. Thank you for your maturity.
May 14, 2018 at 6:12 pm
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So stupid. I’ve made it very clear I’m done with you. Even this little rant is incoherent as a riddled with nonsense. Go to an Incel or fascist “America First” board. You can’t do simple math, and don’t know what an average is, you link data and freak out, threatening violence when it’s pointed out the data you link goes against your claim. Forgive me if I don’t look at your stupid link.
It is interesting that the writers failed to point out that of the 3 Florida cities listed, the 2 on the “most dangerous” list have very large black populations (Florida city is 52.4% black, Opa-locka is 65.8% black) far above the national average of 12.7%. Compare that to the one Florida city that is on the “safest” list, Weston has a black population of 4.4% (far below the national average).
I am sure this is probably true in many of these other cities as well, I didn’t bother to check because I live in Fl, so that is all that mattered to me.
Do you conversely oppose these statements? They are taught by feminists in school. I don’t hear you saying wow to those comments.
It is not necessarily a sign of extreme racism on either of these by the way. It depends on what the person is trying to say.
If they are saying there is a cultural issue within black communities that makes them uniquely high in crime, then it is fine, and you need to grow up.
Identifying it is hitting black folks first is step one. Then we go deeper to find out what the cause is.
If could be poverty, or something that overlaps with white folks. It could be something else entirely, which does not overlap.
You will always see disparity among groups. This does not amount to racism.
The three posts below his are far left, far, far, left, Karl Marx says hello.
Comments I know he would agree with. You’re acting like a child again.
May 10, 2018 at 4:04 pm
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Pure racism, which is the unofficial party platform of the Republican Party but moving closer to being official, and backed by most conservatives here. See the comments in the story about the White supremacist terrorist who ran over and murder a protester. Oh yeah, you can’t, because there was so much racism by Agent, Yogi, Bob and the usual suspects IJ deleted the story instead of doing the usual and just deleting liberal comments.
No, Andrew, I remember it clearly, as well. It was shameful as hell on your part.
May 11, 2018 at 11:27 am
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Sorry, but you are mistaken.
May 11, 2018 at 5:07 pm
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No, we definitively are not. When it was deleted, the lackluster reasoning was, “It wasn’t really an insurance article and shouldn’t have been posted.”
It was a crappy way to deal with a heated topic that showed the true colors of the despicable racist sympathizers here. The dame people who wear “deplorable” as a badge of pride and admit that they act the way they do to “troll libruls…”
It reflects extremely poorly on our industry that it is run by a racist, exclusionary old boys club that seeks to honor those Nazis carrying torches through Virginia and other places.
May 13, 2018 at 6:20 pm
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I stand corrected and apologize. I had forgotten we took down that article. It was posted without my knowledge. I do, however, stand by the decision to take it down.
May 14, 2018 at 9:20 am
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Andrew, you are a good dude and I agree that it wasn’t even tangentially related to insurance so it wasn’t relevant to IJ. Thanks for copping to it, as well. There are more than a handful of us here who straight up would rather tow the line rather than admit they were wrong.
May 16, 2018 at 9:16 am
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Weird every “mistake,” edit, and chiding seems to be in favor of one side, even when it’s White supremacists.
Removing the story was wrong IMO, it got towards issues of insurance, eg TRIA/terrorism coverage and how non-certified terror coverage could apply to domestic terrorism, or rather it could have if your 3-4 most prominent posters weren’t cheering the attack.
May 11, 2018 at 4:52 pm
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Go to heck kid.
The person who ran over a protestor over reacted. He was also scum, the protestors there got the reaction they were looking for, but he was not a murderer looking to off minorities. When people smack your car to hell, and you hit the gas, it’s pretty much to be expected some sort of a reaction, and he over reacted. Enough that he should be charged, but you are blatantly misleading on what occurred. He did not go there to murder, there is no club trying to kill minorities.
Your side has only not killed by luck. Multiple head injuries, bike lock hits, people on air saying their goal was to get a car to run someone over (which finally happened and was not premediated murder despite what your ignorance says) etc.
ANTIFA is a real threat. The racist right isn’t.
What I said above isn’t racist. There are black communities in which there is more violence in certain cities. Sometimes it hits them uniquely. Sometimes it is a problem that is intentionally targeted to black folks (by democrats I might add). When you see violence pop up in the black community, it’s important to see if it is a black issue first. If it is, then you find out what factors are negatively affecting the black community causing it to affect blacks more.
I don’t often see crime the same way you do. That’s the problem with your logic and why you just said my comment was racist. It isn’t. I have never made a racist comment here.
if you’re a black person and you kill someone, it’s a black issue first yet if you’re a white person who kills someone, it’s a mental health issue first. nope. totally no racism or double standard there! end sarcasm
May 11, 2018 at 5:23 pm
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“if you’re a black person and you kill someone, it’s a black issue first yet if you’re a white person who kills someone, it’s a mental health issue first. nope. totally no racism or double standard there! end sarcasm”
Trends. If you have a city with a disproportionate amount of black folks killing? You look at trends.
If you have a black or a black murderer? Then you look at the individual.
And to heck with you. You will say I’m not racist. Now. You do not get to play that card.
May 14, 2018 at 6:28 pm
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I see IJ allows personal insults again. Oh right, just from 1 ideology and a few select people. Wonder why that is?
“ANTIFA is a real threat. The racist right isn’t.”
The people murdered at Parkland by a MAGA, Trump supporter with swastikas on his gun would probably disagree. You know, swastikas like Nazis used and use, as in fascists, as in the people antifa are against. Or the antifa person ran over and murdered by a right-wing nut. Remind me again, before IJ pulled that story because you, Agent, Yogi, et al were so embarrassing, were you personally supporting that attack, or just rationalizing it? Fascist clown, update your talking points and leave me alone.
May 14, 2018 at 6:37 pm
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“And to heck with you. You will say I’m not racist. Now. You do not get to play that card.”
Nobody with a brain who has read your writings will say that. More ‘you can’t debate like this,’ ‘you can’t play that card.’ A meltdown or two away from threatening or insinuating violence which is at this point supported by Wells Media.
May 18, 2018 at 4:29 pm
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“ANTIFA is a real threat. The racist right isn’t.”
Another bad day for this moronic theory, with 10 murdered and 10 injured by a guy with a right-wing Nazi and White supremacist background, which follows 17 murdered by a Trump supporter with Nazis on his weapons at Parkland, as well as the reveal that the Las Vegas shooter was a right-winger who ranted about Waco (just like Bob), ranted about gun rights and wanted to set an example of why people need to embrace the right-wing posotion on gun rights, even saying somebody had to “sacrifice”.
Geez, I hope Antifa doesn’t protest in response, they might even break a window, burn a car, or get murdered by yet another right-wing terrorist.
Now it should be debatable whether Vegas should be certified as terrorism and covered by TRIA.
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Fake news UW. That is your mantra and no one with common sense and a since of right and wrong believes anything you say. Read Ecclesiates 10:2 and you may learn something of left vs right.
Let me guess, David, you voted for Tramp? At least you are willing to blatantly state what many of his supporters dog whistle about when it comes to subjects such as this, dangerous cities. Let me ask you this, when it comes to traveling, do you tend to stay away from cities with larger black populations because you feel they will be more dangerous? Are you willing to comment about the connection between poverty and a dangerous city rather than make it a color issue? If you have the stats on those below the poverty line in the cities you reference, I’d love to know those details. I am going to suggest you will find a stronger correlation between poverty and “dangerous cities” than you will any minority group.
These results in regards to St. Louis are never correct. St. Louis City is a small geographical area with only 400k population and half of it is poor, run down and crime-ridden. If you took the Southside of Chicago and separated it from the rest of the Chicago area it would be far and away number one on this list. The St. Louis city limits are not allowed to change, therefore most of the St. Louis population lives in St. Louis County, which is just 10 minutes from Downtown. If they would allow the city to expand it’s borders as other cities do, St. Louis would not be on this list.
If you do that it comes in around 40th in violet crime, FYI. Missouri has a crime problem much worse than Chicago and definitely Illinois, largely due to poverty.
May I suggest for anyone interested in pursuing a full and scholarly account, backed up by FOIA records, of the history of the FBI, that they seek out this riveting history?
It’s really worth your while. I worked with the Intelligence Community during my career, and it fits with my experience. There are fantastically good men and women working at the FBI and other branches of our intelligence services. But Hoover and directors since there and elsewhere have had concentration on domestic psyops.
It’s not conspiracy theory. It’s called “high policing.” The reason that in many ways they are so coy regarding the Russians now is that the Russians merely exploited openings that our own IC had established, and that’s a very hard thing to explain to the public.
— Shava Nerad, founding executive director, The Tor Project, long retired, speaking for self
There are just a few areas of Chicago South & West sides that skew the entire city giving Chicago a bad rap (which they have earned). They have a mayor that does next to nothing to stop whats going on.
That being said, East St Louis is every bit as bad a Englewood and Hegweish neighborhood in Chicago. Gets referenced a lot in Chicago PD, Chicago Med and Chicago Fire. Rockford also has a higher crime rate then does Chicago. City limits are not big enough to contain all with in so Beloit, Wi has become Rockford North. You can buy a 300 sq ft home for $60,000 there.
Detroit has a higher MURDER (not crime) rate then Chicago does. Simply put, they are better shots.
Baltimore is one of the most dangerous cities in America. As a result, their population has shrunk dramatically due to the rule of Progressive Democrats. Is this a pattern nation wide?
I remember someone driving me home at night through Darby, PA. They told me I should get out of this neighborhood. I told them I wasn’t afraid of poor people. Snob.
I have to laugh when I hear Cardinal fans up for their annual Cubs trip north discuss how dangerous things are in Chicago. Between the violent crime and the entire north area of St. Louis being a radiation dump site you have to wonder about the long term affects on the local gene pool.
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You must have believed they WERE honest and believable at some point in the past, yes? Can you pinpoint an exact moment in time – say, a specific year – when you changed your mind (which, of course, is your right to do)?
I don’t know why there is ‘value’ in determining the exact point in time when I changed MY mind about the credibility / integrity of the FBI. But, if I must choose, I select October 1, 1970 at 8:25 pm. This was during the sixth season of the FBI TV show, starring Efram Zimbalist, Jr.
You may not see the point, but it’s relevant and important. Also, I wasn’t asking you – you hadn’t posted anything yet. But hey, if you want to answer seriously and not reference a TV show that aired before you were even born, go ahead.
Polar, there are good people in the FBI, but unfortunately, they aren’t the ones making the decisions that the corrupt leadership have been making. They have been tools of the Democratic leadership and working day and night to undermine and resist truth. Couple that with the equally corrupt DOJ and you have the formation of a coup attempt at our great President. Nothing would ever have come out had the wicked witch of the East been elected. Sure would have liked to know the real story on the tarmac meeting. Quite sure the subjects were not grandchildren and golf.
Agent, keep peddling conspiracy theories while actual hard evidence of hard corruption keeps coming out, thanks to the hardworking men and women (overwhelmingly Republican, by the way) at the FBI and their dedication to the truth.
I don’t always trust the CIA, they have been involved in too many regime changes and covert operations, but the FBI is up to snuff and run with what I feel is genuine patriotism, not partyism like what you feel on a minute-by-minute basis.
Agent and PolarBeaRepeal are the same person. He made up this person when Bob ghosted on him for a little while so he would have someone else that “agrees” with him. Probably also to make it look like he isn’t on IJ ALL DAY LONG. But as he has said before, he owns his agency, so he can play all day and make silly unsupported points or remarks back and forth to himself as agent and Polar…the Polar part is right, just need the ‘Bi’ in front of Polar. Tighten up Mike!
Polar, Rosenblatt thinks the FBI is honest and trustworthy, even back to the Obama years. Who is Stefan Halper, the newly discovered mole Obama placed in the Trump campaign to try to discredit our great President? The FBI and DOJ couldn’t be more corrupt.
“You must have believed they WERE honest and believable at some point in the past, yes? Can you pinpoint an exact moment in time – say, a specific year – when you changed your mind (which, of course, is your right to do)?”
The way the question is asked is wrong. I will also quickly say the above Bob wasn’t me.
But moving on:
You often try to appear unbiased, and ask a question like this, which shows how you think.
You go case by case with the FBI, corruption by corruption. Not year by year and date by date.
Moving off of that:
The FBI has shown they aren’t trustworthy. Ever. They have been more trustworthy at certain points than others, but the answer is: Never. They should not exist. The KGB is how Putin got to power in point A. In point B it is extremely clear that both parties have tried to abuse the FBI in the past to bring down political opponents.
And worse than that: Numerous times the FBI has taken actions which show it may have assisted in assassinations of people. No, I don’t mean Kennedy. I mean regular Joes, and when they haven’t done that, they have collected information on people.
The way I asked the question was wrong? Fine. Let me rephrase:
Agent – did you ever think the FBI was trustworthy? If so, when did you think that? What changed your mind?
Does that work for you bob?
Yes, actually.
And it’s not about me. It’s about proper logic. The way you asked it was clearly geared more in line with “I’m going to prove you only don’t trust the FBI when a republican is in office” and less with “What makes you not trust the FBI”.
Don’t try to tell me that isn’t what you were doing. Roughly 50% of your questions with Agent and Polar are setting up similar scenarios to prove bias to discredit their then present argument, more than to prove points on the present argument. The later is fair, the former is not.
The two versions of what I asked get at the same exact thing — Agent implied he used to believe the FBI was trustworthy, but now he doesn’t think that way, and I’d like to know when and why he changed his mind.
I’m glad my 2nd version gets the bob seal of approval (I am not being sarcastic) … maybe Agent will answer me now that he sees you approved of how I phrased the question.
Uh, but their track record for honesty is exponentially stronger than is Tramp’s, and you fully support him. So, what gives?
Purveyor of “Fake News”. Insulter of our great President. Hey, the Democrats agenda is going up in smoke now. Move to Venezuela and you will be happier.
Purveyor of fake news? I don’t work for Fox. I’m perfectly happy right here, Agent. I don’t live my life in fear and anger. That’s the Hannity narrative you subscribe to. Cheers my friend, I’m going golfing!
Planet, please explain to the class who Stefan Halper is.
Hard to believe Jackson, MS didn’t make the list. Folks, it’s dangerous here!
Why isn’t Chicago on the list?
Perplexed, they don’t think large cities should be included. Tell that to the people who have to live there.
but Agent, they DID NOT exclude larger cities! they even explained WHY you’re not seeing those locations in the list. you may want to re-read the article to make sure your replies are fact based.
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Have you EVER been to Chicago?
Wrong one again, as you have been on literally almost everything you’ve ever stated that can be fact checked. They list cities and specifically large cities, genius. If most of these studies included small cities instead of limiting them to 100k+ people, Chicago and many other large cities would be even further down the list.
Of course you have to immediately create an unfounded conspiracy theory because the data in the story you most likely didn’t read didn’t match what your want to be true, so you can poorly try to make your stupid political points.
Chicago and Detroit have lost much of their population due to how the Progressive Left have governed for decades. Much safer for our soldiers in the Middle East than the streets of these two demented cities.
Moronic. The reason Detroit crashed was because Reagan and Bush shipped manufacturing jobs out of America with the help of sone Democrats, and Michigan’s entire economy was based on manufacturing. Detroit has had a massive rebound, update your idiotic talking points. Chicago is the 3rd largest city in the nation and most of the people leaving are either poor and going to nearby Indiana, or were from Greater Chicago, ie the suburbs, not really Chicago. Chicago has the most high rises being built in the nation and was 1st in corporate relocations and expansions from 2013-16.
Sounds like it’s just completely crashing. Now say the corporate relocations are nothing even though you cite the 2 you know almost daily as proof Texas is great.
Which is it? Did the manufacturing jobs go or are they leaving due to us not being able to compete?
I’ve seen you say before manufacturing will never come back, which seems to mean you cannot blame Reagan and Bush when it benefits you and then make excuses when it comes to Obama. Also, how specifically did they ship the jobs out? Name the bill, the process, etc?
Here’s some history in the chart:
https://madabouttrade.com/2018-economic-report-of-the-president-offers-both-insight-and-obfuscation-on-trade-a1bd297cd2e1
I do not see a huge decline specifically in line with George HW or Reagan outside of normal trends. It’s a dip for HW, but not huge. More concerning is 2001 to 2007. If tax rates are even partially behind this huge dip, and falling behind in competitive nature, and we got it back up to 2001 levels (still bad) we would have more than another 1 million jobs. At even $45k annual income, which is definitely assuming low, you have 45 billion of revenues for the poor per year.
We can get more manufacturing jobs back. When looking at what jobs reshored in 2016, most were from China, by a huge margin. This is basically China being cheaper, and subsidizing certain markets which are otherwise higher cost.
In other words: Stopping China and lowering rates are critical. We are already seeing manufacturing jobs begin to come back. Now we need a larger effort to stop China and build on it.
bob–
That was well put, factual, brief, and avoided any personal attacks. Thank you for your maturity.
So stupid. I’ve made it very clear I’m done with you. Even this little rant is incoherent as a riddled with nonsense. Go to an Incel or fascist “America First” board. You can’t do simple math, and don’t know what an average is, you link data and freak out, threatening violence when it’s pointed out the data you link goes against your claim. Forgive me if I don’t look at your stupid link.
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All I can say to this comment here.
Men are more likely to commit domestic violence.
Men are more likely to commit acts of violence.
Men are more likely to rape.
Do you conversely oppose these statements? They are taught by feminists in school. I don’t hear you saying wow to those comments.
It is not necessarily a sign of extreme racism on either of these by the way. It depends on what the person is trying to say.
If they are saying there is a cultural issue within black communities that makes them uniquely high in crime, then it is fine, and you need to grow up.
Identifying it is hitting black folks first is step one. Then we go deeper to find out what the cause is.
If could be poverty, or something that overlaps with white folks. It could be something else entirely, which does not overlap.
You will always see disparity among groups. This does not amount to racism.
The three posts below his are far left, far, far, left, Karl Marx says hello.
why didn’t he say “wow” to comments nobody had made? for real? you seriously asking that? how about NOBODY WROTE THAT YET, SO HE COULDN’T!
Comments I know he would agree with. You’re acting like a child again.
Pure racism, which is the unofficial party platform of the Republican Party but moving closer to being official, and backed by most conservatives here. See the comments in the story about the White supremacist terrorist who ran over and murder a protester. Oh yeah, you can’t, because there was so much racism by Agent, Yogi, Bob and the usual suspects IJ deleted the story instead of doing the usual and just deleting liberal comments.
Perhaps you are thinking of another site; we did not delete any story.
No, Andrew, I remember it clearly, as well. It was shameful as hell on your part.
Sorry, but you are mistaken.
No, we definitively are not. When it was deleted, the lackluster reasoning was, “It wasn’t really an insurance article and shouldn’t have been posted.”
It was a crappy way to deal with a heated topic that showed the true colors of the despicable racist sympathizers here. The dame people who wear “deplorable” as a badge of pride and admit that they act the way they do to “troll libruls…”
It reflects extremely poorly on our industry that it is run by a racist, exclusionary old boys club that seeks to honor those Nazis carrying torches through Virginia and other places.
I stand corrected and apologize. I had forgotten we took down that article. It was posted without my knowledge. I do, however, stand by the decision to take it down.
Andrew, you are a good dude and I agree that it wasn’t even tangentially related to insurance so it wasn’t relevant to IJ. Thanks for copping to it, as well. There are more than a handful of us here who straight up would rather tow the line rather than admit they were wrong.
Weird every “mistake,” edit, and chiding seems to be in favor of one side, even when it’s White supremacists.
Removing the story was wrong IMO, it got towards issues of insurance, eg TRIA/terrorism coverage and how non-certified terror coverage could apply to domestic terrorism, or rather it could have if your 3-4 most prominent posters weren’t cheering the attack.
Go to heck kid.
The person who ran over a protestor over reacted. He was also scum, the protestors there got the reaction they were looking for, but he was not a murderer looking to off minorities. When people smack your car to hell, and you hit the gas, it’s pretty much to be expected some sort of a reaction, and he over reacted. Enough that he should be charged, but you are blatantly misleading on what occurred. He did not go there to murder, there is no club trying to kill minorities.
Your side has only not killed by luck. Multiple head injuries, bike lock hits, people on air saying their goal was to get a car to run someone over (which finally happened and was not premediated murder despite what your ignorance says) etc.
ANTIFA is a real threat. The racist right isn’t.
What I said above isn’t racist. There are black communities in which there is more violence in certain cities. Sometimes it hits them uniquely. Sometimes it is a problem that is intentionally targeted to black folks (by democrats I might add). When you see violence pop up in the black community, it’s important to see if it is a black issue first. If it is, then you find out what factors are negatively affecting the black community causing it to affect blacks more.
I don’t often see crime the same way you do. That’s the problem with your logic and why you just said my comment was racist. It isn’t. I have never made a racist comment here.
if you’re a black person and you kill someone, it’s a black issue first yet if you’re a white person who kills someone, it’s a mental health issue first. nope. totally no racism or double standard there! end sarcasm
“if you’re a black person and you kill someone, it’s a black issue first yet if you’re a white person who kills someone, it’s a mental health issue first. nope. totally no racism or double standard there! end sarcasm”
Trends. If you have a city with a disproportionate amount of black folks killing? You look at trends.
If you have a black or a black murderer? Then you look at the individual.
And to heck with you. You will say I’m not racist. Now. You do not get to play that card.
I see IJ allows personal insults again. Oh right, just from 1 ideology and a few select people. Wonder why that is?
“ANTIFA is a real threat. The racist right isn’t.”
The people murdered at Parkland by a MAGA, Trump supporter with swastikas on his gun would probably disagree. You know, swastikas like Nazis used and use, as in fascists, as in the people antifa are against. Or the antifa person ran over and murdered by a right-wing nut. Remind me again, before IJ pulled that story because you, Agent, Yogi, et al were so embarrassing, were you personally supporting that attack, or just rationalizing it? Fascist clown, update your talking points and leave me alone.
“And to heck with you. You will say I’m not racist. Now. You do not get to play that card.”
Nobody with a brain who has read your writings will say that. More ‘you can’t debate like this,’ ‘you can’t play that card.’ A meltdown or two away from threatening or insinuating violence which is at this point supported by Wells Media.
“ANTIFA is a real threat. The racist right isn’t.”
Another bad day for this moronic theory, with 10 murdered and 10 injured by a guy with a right-wing Nazi and White supremacist background, which follows 17 murdered by a Trump supporter with Nazis on his weapons at Parkland, as well as the reveal that the Las Vegas shooter was a right-winger who ranted about Waco (just like Bob), ranted about gun rights and wanted to set an example of why people need to embrace the right-wing posotion on gun rights, even saying somebody had to “sacrifice”.
Geez, I hope Antifa doesn’t protest in response, they might even break a window, burn a car, or get murdered by yet another right-wing terrorist.
Now it should be debatable whether Vegas should be certified as terrorism and covered by TRIA.
Fake news UW. That is your mantra and no one with common sense and a since of right and wrong believes anything you say. Read Ecclesiates 10:2 and you may learn something of left vs right.
REALLY? I really hope you’re not in the insurance industry.
sorry, man…this is the Insurance Journal. InfoWars is down the hall to your right. your FAR, FAR, right.
Sadly that’s a lot, if not the majority of people in the industry. If not at carriers, definitely among the brokers.
Your FAKE NEWS scenario is rubbish, plain and simple. By the way, the real name is Independent Agents.
It’s nice to know that you think this was important enough for you to bring up…
Let me guess, David, you voted for Tramp? At least you are willing to blatantly state what many of his supporters dog whistle about when it comes to subjects such as this, dangerous cities. Let me ask you this, when it comes to traveling, do you tend to stay away from cities with larger black populations because you feel they will be more dangerous? Are you willing to comment about the connection between poverty and a dangerous city rather than make it a color issue? If you have the stats on those below the poverty line in the cities you reference, I’d love to know those details. I am going to suggest you will find a stronger correlation between poverty and “dangerous cities” than you will any minority group.
These results in regards to St. Louis are never correct. St. Louis City is a small geographical area with only 400k population and half of it is poor, run down and crime-ridden. If you took the Southside of Chicago and separated it from the rest of the Chicago area it would be far and away number one on this list. The St. Louis city limits are not allowed to change, therefore most of the St. Louis population lives in St. Louis County, which is just 10 minutes from Downtown. If they would allow the city to expand it’s borders as other cities do, St. Louis would not be on this list.
If you do that it comes in around 40th in violet crime, FYI. Missouri has a crime problem much worse than Chicago and definitely Illinois, largely due to poverty.
May I suggest for anyone interested in pursuing a full and scholarly account, backed up by FOIA records, of the history of the FBI, that they seek out this riveting history?
https://muse.jhu.edu/book/45085
It’s really worth your while. I worked with the Intelligence Community during my career, and it fits with my experience. There are fantastically good men and women working at the FBI and other branches of our intelligence services. But Hoover and directors since there and elsewhere have had concentration on domestic psyops.
It’s not conspiracy theory. It’s called “high policing.” The reason that in many ways they are so coy regarding the Russians now is that the Russians merely exploited openings that our own IC had established, and that’s a very hard thing to explain to the public.
— Shava Nerad, founding executive director, The Tor Project, long retired, speaking for self
There are just a few areas of Chicago South & West sides that skew the entire city giving Chicago a bad rap (which they have earned). They have a mayor that does next to nothing to stop whats going on.
That being said, East St Louis is every bit as bad a Englewood and Hegweish neighborhood in Chicago. Gets referenced a lot in Chicago PD, Chicago Med and Chicago Fire. Rockford also has a higher crime rate then does Chicago. City limits are not big enough to contain all with in so Beloit, Wi has become Rockford North. You can buy a 300 sq ft home for $60,000 there.
Detroit has a higher MURDER (not crime) rate then Chicago does. Simply put, they are better shots.
Baltimore is one of the most dangerous cities in America. As a result, their population has shrunk dramatically due to the rule of Progressive Democrats. Is this a pattern nation wide?
No, you will find a pattern between poverty and crime, though. Happy to help!
I remember someone driving me home at night through Darby, PA. They told me I should get out of this neighborhood. I told them I wasn’t afraid of poor people. Snob.