Was this also the survey that asked Americans the name of the Vice President, our opponent in the Revolutionary War, and the names of our 3 branches of government? (You know, the man-in-the-street funnies by late night comedians.)
Way to go IJ: proving Global Warming by surveys of people, most of whom haven’t read a book for fun since third grade.
I’m getting tired of the dishonesty of these types of articles. Of course there is ‘Global Warming.’ The Earth has been both much colder and much warmer than it is today. It has always cycled up and down.
The link these types of articles are trying to make is that this warming is Anthropogenic (Man-Caused). That is very much up for debate. My personal opinion is that man would be egocentric to believe that he has much control on the climate of the whole Earth. Heck, we can’t even make it rain somewhere we want it to.
Thank you for your comments, Oldtimer. Making it rain somewhere is a weather event. Care to tell the class what the difference is between weather and climate?
No, global climate change isn’t caused by man. That is not up for debate. The impact of man is insignificant relative to the typical variance & noise in the data.
“My personal opinion is that man would be egocentric to believe that he has much control on the climate of the whole Earth”
Why would you think that’s egocentric? Didn’t we learn in the 1980’s that man’s introduction of CFC’s into the atmosphere caused a hole in our ozone layer … and that once we stopped using products with CFC’s that the hole has actually shrunk and is repairing itself? If you were an adult in the 80s, you’d surely agree that man’s actions DID have a major impact on climate….yes???
There’s a religion around humans controlling the planet’s climate when we put CFC’s into the atmosphere which directly caused a hole in the ozone layer?? Sweet!! How can I apply for tax exempt status??
CFC’s were mostly released in northern hemisphere and there is very little transfer of air between northern and southern hemispheres ( at any level), but the Hole in Ozone was over South Pole.
Computer models of CFC effects were pretty much unverifiable, as there had never been any comparative historical data.
Careful study will probably show there is more linkage between expiration of DuPont freon patents, than CFC’s on the Hole in the Ozone layer,, but then,,, careful scientific study disproving climate catastrophes doesn’t pay very well.
BP
( I expect our esteemed universities teach that the CFC’s sink to the bottom of the globe : )
The onus to prove one’s point with evidence falls on the person who makes the claim, not the person who is inquiring where said party obtained his or her information from in the first place.
July 16, 2018 at 2:30 pm
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The onus to advance the knowledge on a subject is on BOTH parties; if you have a source of support for man-made Global warming, post it here, ASAP.
July 16, 2018 at 4:02 pm
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Reading comprehension buddy. Bill and I are not discussing man’s influence on climate change or global warming. We’re talking about the hole in the ozone layer from 30 years ago.
And I’ve done my research. I know what I’m talking about. I’m wondering if Bill can support his argument, but since you’re such a fan of it … here’s goo-gull for ya — http s://www.google.com/search?q=what+caused+the+hole+in+the+ozone+layer&oq=what+caused+the+hole+in+the+oz&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.3439j0j2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
July 16, 2018 at 9:20 am
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Ozone and CO2 are different issues. Only Ozone Hole-y-er Than Thou AtmosFear-Mongers try to equate their impacts on the Earth’s atmosphere. What would PLANTS do without CO2? What would ANIMALS do without plants?
NOAA 420ka graph of Ice Core data shows temperatures over past 10ka to 12ka have been +/- 2˚c lower than 3 previous highs, and no possible link w/ CO2. You don’t hear much about that. BP
Amazing how many people are gullible! Common sense will show it’s all about “emotions”,
And for big “profit”…….the sun is about 4.6 Billion years old, and only half it’s size, as its a big Nuke and growing!
yes the sun is so big you could (if you tried) to place 1,300,000 earths inside of it….hum,
That’s not a typo (1.3 million earths inside) we’re so “tiny” in comparison. Mother Earth does more damage in a minuscule
Ie: volcanos, Iceland, Hawaii, Alaska, Ecuador’s and under the sea . Remember Mt St Hellen’s ?
Quick run and hide under your bed !
Was this also the survey that asked Americans the name of the Vice President, our opponent in the Revolutionary War, and the names of our 3 branches of government? (You know, the man-in-the-street funnies by late night comedians.)
Way to go IJ: proving Global Warming by surveys of people, most of whom haven’t read a book for fun since third grade.
I’m convinced!
‘Solid Evidence’ in single quote marks tells us all we need to know about the survey’s integrity.
Yes, they agreed but stated it in many different ways.
I’m getting tired of the dishonesty of these types of articles. Of course there is ‘Global Warming.’ The Earth has been both much colder and much warmer than it is today. It has always cycled up and down.
The link these types of articles are trying to make is that this warming is Anthropogenic (Man-Caused). That is very much up for debate. My personal opinion is that man would be egocentric to believe that he has much control on the climate of the whole Earth. Heck, we can’t even make it rain somewhere we want it to.
Thank you for your comments, Oldtimer. Making it rain somewhere is a weather event. Care to tell the class what the difference is between weather and climate?
No, global climate change isn’t caused by man. That is not up for debate. The impact of man is insignificant relative to the typical variance & noise in the data.
“My personal opinion is that man would be egocentric to believe that he has much control on the climate of the whole Earth”
Why would you think that’s egocentric? Didn’t we learn in the 1980’s that man’s introduction of CFC’s into the atmosphere caused a hole in our ozone layer … and that once we stopped using products with CFC’s that the hole has actually shrunk and is repairing itself? If you were an adult in the 80s, you’d surely agree that man’s actions DID have a major impact on climate….yes???
Rosenblatt, your religion has been shot down so many times, it looks like Swiss Cheese.
There’s a religion around humans controlling the planet’s climate when we put CFC’s into the atmosphere which directly caused a hole in the ozone layer?? Sweet!! How can I apply for tax exempt status??
Contact Lois Lerner or John Koskinen at her home, or the IRS in Wash DC, respectively, to apply for tax-exempt status.
Agent, you are full of Swiss Cheese, with no room left for intelligence!
CFC’s were mostly released in northern hemisphere and there is very little transfer of air between northern and southern hemispheres ( at any level), but the Hole in Ozone was over South Pole.
Computer models of CFC effects were pretty much unverifiable, as there had never been any comparative historical data.
Careful study will probably show there is more linkage between expiration of DuPont freon patents, than CFC’s on the Hole in the Ozone layer,, but then,,, careful scientific study disproving climate catastrophes doesn’t pay very well.
BP
( I expect our esteemed universities teach that the CFC’s sink to the bottom of the globe : )
Can you please provide some source data to back up your argument?
Can you Goo-gull?
The onus to prove one’s point with evidence falls on the person who makes the claim, not the person who is inquiring where said party obtained his or her information from in the first place.
The onus to advance the knowledge on a subject is on BOTH parties; if you have a source of support for man-made Global warming, post it here, ASAP.
Reading comprehension buddy. Bill and I are not discussing man’s influence on climate change or global warming. We’re talking about the hole in the ozone layer from 30 years ago.
And I’ve done my research. I know what I’m talking about. I’m wondering if Bill can support his argument, but since you’re such a fan of it … here’s goo-gull for ya — http s://www.google.com/search?q=what+caused+the+hole+in+the+ozone+layer&oq=what+caused+the+hole+in+the+oz&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.3439j0j2&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Ozone and CO2 are different issues. Only Ozone Hole-y-er Than Thou AtmosFear-Mongers try to equate their impacts on the Earth’s atmosphere. What would PLANTS do without CO2? What would ANIMALS do without plants?
NOAA 420ka graph of Ice Core data shows temperatures over past 10ka to 12ka have been +/- 2˚c lower than 3 previous highs, and no possible link w/ CO2. You don’t hear much about that. BP
Amazing how many people are gullible! Common sense will show it’s all about “emotions”,
And for big “profit”…….the sun is about 4.6 Billion years old, and only half it’s size, as its a big Nuke and growing!
yes the sun is so big you could (if you tried) to place 1,300,000 earths inside of it….hum,
That’s not a typo (1.3 million earths inside) we’re so “tiny” in comparison. Mother Earth does more damage in a minuscule
Ie: volcanos, Iceland, Hawaii, Alaska, Ecuador’s and under the sea . Remember Mt St Hellen’s ?
Quick run and hide under your bed !
Man will not be here forever