Amazon and Google are two of the most dangerous companies in the world. They are in league with the Big Brother Progressive Socialists who want to control everything in our lives. Both should be broken up into tiny little pieces.
I hate to say it, but Agent actually has a point this time, Rosenblatt. Look at what China is doing with their Big Brother data collecting. Just Google (haha), “social credits in China.”
And to follow on to that, Amazon is providing Cloud service to the security apparatus that is our Federal Government, the part of the government gathering massive amounts of data on every one of us.
But you can trust Amazon not to misuse that information. In the same way you can trust the government not to collect our personal data “unwittingly”.
February 13, 2019 at 8:44 am
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There are definitely “Big Brother” privacy issues with Google and Amazon (and Apple, and Xfinity, and Huawei, and your car if it syncs to your phone’s bluetooth, and on and on).
But saying they’re “in league” with Progressive Socialists is the remark I was referencing with the tin-foil hat.
Those companies are all about making money – that means lobbying with both Democrats and Republicans.
February 13, 2019 at 8:31 am
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What about Agent’s post is inaccurate, Rosie? His use of the term ‘dangerous’ is opinion, but is substantiated by what those two companies have done and are doing. I do not condone breaking up companies. But I do encourage regulations that aid and encourage competition. In limited instances, I would support government LOANS, not aid, to companies that would add competition to markets with few sellers that supply necessary goods to the public. Focus on the word ‘necessary’ if/ when you reply.
“They are in league with…Progressive Socialists” is disingenuous as it implies the companies aren’t in league with Republicans too.
Ajit Pai is clearly ‘in bed’ with Xfinity, Verizon, etc.
He is definitely not a Progressive Socialist.
February 13, 2019 at 11:16 am
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Rosenblatt, yeah, the progressive socialists comment was totally wrong, but that all stems back to the bigger problem…..it seems we somewhat all agree this Big Brother data collecting is an issue, but if we get angry with each other over the nuances (progressive socialist or not), then the data collecting will continue while we argue about the irrelevant stuff. Ya know?
February 13, 2019 at 12:01 pm
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I hear ya, Nebraskan. I certainly could’ve done a better job at responding to the overall point he was making without focusing on the unnecessary jab he took that wasn’t accurate IMO.
I guess when I see Agent post stuff like that (also done in the 2nd post in this thread http s://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2019/02/12/517466.htm/?comments) I just feel the need to call him out on it.
But you’re right. This isn’t about politics (except the ones that have gotten paid off to look the other way or pass laws that favor the company over the consumer), the point is the same:
the world we live in now tracks us in many different ways through different products, usually without our knowledge (unless you read page 142 paragraph 1,532 in the online terms of agreement before you hit ‘accept’).
This is where we need government to step in. I feel customers should have to decide to opt-in to these “benefits” rather than having to figure out exactly how they can opt-out of it.
February 14, 2019 at 10:13 am
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You do realize that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a Socialist, right? Have you stopped saying it?
It’s a delicate balance, not all or nothing. I little less regulation has proved to be good, but I balk at the evisceration of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
I don’t see the problem. If you don’t want a smart house, and I don’t, then don’t get one. Anybody who does will get what’s coming to them. The smart house is something one would think had been designed by a totalitarian. This has been done before. The East German Stasi bugged everybody. So does Kim Jung Il. It really is something right out of Orwell. Haven’t read Orwell? Better get at it before you trust your soul to Amazon or Google.
When is the Legislature going to put a stop to this bs?
Enough already. Oh wait, the K street whores are very busy.
Amazon and Google are two of the most dangerous companies in the world. They are in league with the Big Brother Progressive Socialists who want to control everything in our lives. Both should be broken up into tiny little pieces.
How much does your tin foil hat weigh?
Can’t stand the truth? How much does your rose colored glasses cost?
I hate to say it, but Agent actually has a point this time, Rosenblatt. Look at what China is doing with their Big Brother data collecting. Just Google (haha), “social credits in China.”
And to follow on to that, Amazon is providing Cloud service to the security apparatus that is our Federal Government, the part of the government gathering massive amounts of data on every one of us.
But you can trust Amazon not to misuse that information. In the same way you can trust the government not to collect our personal data “unwittingly”.
There are definitely “Big Brother” privacy issues with Google and Amazon (and Apple, and Xfinity, and Huawei, and your car if it syncs to your phone’s bluetooth, and on and on).
But saying they’re “in league” with Progressive Socialists is the remark I was referencing with the tin-foil hat.
Those companies are all about making money – that means lobbying with both Democrats and Republicans.
What about Agent’s post is inaccurate, Rosie? His use of the term ‘dangerous’ is opinion, but is substantiated by what those two companies have done and are doing. I do not condone breaking up companies. But I do encourage regulations that aid and encourage competition. In limited instances, I would support government LOANS, not aid, to companies that would add competition to markets with few sellers that supply necessary goods to the public. Focus on the word ‘necessary’ if/ when you reply.
“They are in league with…Progressive Socialists” is disingenuous as it implies the companies aren’t in league with Republicans too.
Ajit Pai is clearly ‘in bed’ with Xfinity, Verizon, etc.
He is definitely not a Progressive Socialist.
Rosenblatt, yeah, the progressive socialists comment was totally wrong, but that all stems back to the bigger problem…..it seems we somewhat all agree this Big Brother data collecting is an issue, but if we get angry with each other over the nuances (progressive socialist or not), then the data collecting will continue while we argue about the irrelevant stuff. Ya know?
I hear ya, Nebraskan. I certainly could’ve done a better job at responding to the overall point he was making without focusing on the unnecessary jab he took that wasn’t accurate IMO.
I guess when I see Agent post stuff like that (also done in the 2nd post in this thread http s://www.insurancejournal.com/news/national/2019/02/12/517466.htm/?comments) I just feel the need to call him out on it.
But you’re right. This isn’t about politics (except the ones that have gotten paid off to look the other way or pass laws that favor the company over the consumer), the point is the same:
the world we live in now tracks us in many different ways through different products, usually without our knowledge (unless you read page 142 paragraph 1,532 in the online terms of agreement before you hit ‘accept’).
This is where we need government to step in. I feel customers should have to decide to opt-in to these “benefits” rather than having to figure out exactly how they can opt-out of it.
You do realize that the author of the Pledge of Allegiance was a Socialist, right? Have you stopped saying it?
Keep in mind that Silicon Valley is in bed with Democrats, not Republicans. So guess who is selling us out this time.
Funny how it’s the free market, deregulation capitalists who are complaining.
Either you believe the government should regulate private companies or you don’t.
It’s a delicate balance, not all or nothing. I little less regulation has proved to be good, but I balk at the evisceration of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
You are correct, but I did not say either your believe the government should regulate all aspects of private companies or you don’t.
True free market capitalists advocate for zero government influence in private business.
I don’t see the problem. If you don’t want a smart house, and I don’t, then don’t get one. Anybody who does will get what’s coming to them. The smart house is something one would think had been designed by a totalitarian. This has been done before. The East German Stasi bugged everybody. So does Kim Jung Il. It really is something right out of Orwell. Haven’t read Orwell? Better get at it before you trust your soul to Amazon or Google.
I wonder if Orwell is free on Amazon Prime. (That wasn’t any disrespect to your comment, by the way. Just a lame joke.)
Totally agree, Vox. I’ve looked at these devices and nothing about them interests me. I’ll take the money I save and spend it at the golf course.