Poll Shows #MeToo Movement Is Changing Workplace Conversations, Behavior By Michelle R. Smith and Hannah Fingerhut | October 28, 2019 Email This Subscribe to Newsletter Email to a friend Facebook Tweet LinkedIn Print Article Article 42 Comments October 28, 2019 at 9:19 am Rosenblatt says: Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 13 1Got my popcorn ready for this comment thread…. In hopes we can keep the discussion on topic and non-inflammatory, I’ll start: IMO, the culture change goes beyond #metoo and one gender commenting towards another. I’ve changed my behavior even giving simple compliments to other men. Even if it’s something **I** think is innocuous, like saying “I like your shirt – is it new?”, isn’t worth the risk. New business etiquette rule of thumb – don’t comment on anyone’s physical appearance. If you apply that simple rule, you should be fine. October 28, 2019 at 11:58 am Captain Planet says: Like or Dislike: 10 3Not a bad rule of thumb, Rosenblatt, but I think using common sense with colleagues still applies. Friends of mine started this company many moons ago, and I have no worries complimenting them. Generally speaking, with new hires, I am reluctant to treat the same. Though, here in the Midwest, we are still pretty good about paying and receiving compliments without suspecting there is some ulterior motive. October 28, 2019 at 4:57 pm Rosenblatt says: Like or Dislike: 4 1Yeah, when they’re your friends before you’re co-workers, I can see how you’d be more relaxed around them and not worry about offending **as much** … of course I think we’ve all had people we thought were friends until something happened along the way and the trust we thought was solid dissolved. Although your last comment is another variable at play – what’s socially acceptable in your neck of the woods may not be in another part of the country. I guess the point is you can’t REALLY know what someone may think is a simple compliment versus what could be taken as harassment, no matter the actual intent. Although I don’t feel like I’m walking on eggshells, I do subscribe to the “better safe than sorry” mentality. October 28, 2019 at 1:18 pm Captain Planet says: Like or Dislike: 3 1“…American workers view the #MeToo movement more favorably than unfavorably, 45% versus 27%.” As we should.The days of Ron Burgandyism should be exactly what they are right now, just a joke. An antiquated way of thinking. October 29, 2019 at 3:04 pm bob says: Like or Dislike: 2 4Yes, just like the baby boomers thought they freed women from oppression, the millennials thought they freed women from oppression, the baby boomers parents thought they really freed women from oppression, This is an ego movement, it isn’t helping women at all, on any aspect, it’s just creating mass hysteria. The Ron Burgandy days never existed. People have respected women, every generation since Teddy Roosevelt, and often, more so than current times. October 29, 2019 at 3:36 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 2 1“The Ron Burgandy days never existed. ” This is not based in reality. Once again, you like to make statements as if they’re factual without offering any evidence whatsoever. You’re late to the table, but you’re worried about protecting the innocent men, meanwhile women have been dealing with these issues silently for decades. You are as usual, on the side of wrong, defending the worst people in the room. October 28, 2019 at 1:25 pm Reagan says: Poorly-rated. Like or Dislike: 10 20Hidden due to low comment rating. Click here to see.This is BS. I guarantee that poll is skewed. This movement has done a lot of damage, as most things left generally do. Now, there is no questioning a female account of anything from rape to simply being “offended” regardless of any evidence, or time passed, or her documented behavior, or motives. The pendulum will one day swing back. but before it does, many innocent men will be caught up in this wide catching net of extremism. We are also raising a generation of boys who knows not the first thing about dating and will never be able to safely do so. October 28, 2019 at 1:48 pm Captain Planet says: Hot debate. What do you think? 16 12I disagree – you can be accused of sexual misconduct by upwards of 40 women, admit to going backstage of your own pageant just to ogle the contestants in undress, and still become President of The United States. October 28, 2019 at 2:25 pm Reagan says: Hot debate. What do you think? 16 8Idiotic statement. We are not talking about a billionaire celebrity, but rather every day Joe’s. do you write for the Washington Post? October 28, 2019 at 3:19 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 9 9Your argument that “the movement has done a lot of damage” is flawed, because “the movement” has actually also put away a lot of powerful influential people who would have continued to abuse and objectify, on both sides. You are arguing that we should ignore rape because innocent men could be persecuted. Clearly you have never actually known anyone that’s undergone this horrific process. Your good fortune does not mean you understand the issue at hand, or that you should loudly proclaim that you do. You’re a part of the problem, and this problem is far bigger than you comprehend. October 29, 2019 at 3:08 pm bob says: Like or Dislike: 1 5The me too movement has not putt away many powerful people, at all, people did. The me too movement however did change conviction rates for expulsion to 51% or more likely, some countries now have mandatory convictions, you can go to jail if drunk as a man having sex with a woman who was drunk, even with no harmed party, (as in the woman says she’s ok with having sex drunk even after the fact) and the harm has been dramatic. Sexual assault arrests have exploded in some countries 700% and that is not from men finally getting what they deserve, it’s from hysteria. This is not a positive movement, it’s one that created MTGOW, and those men are opting out for good reason. Again, I have had women use the beginning of this crud in 2009 to accuse me of sexual assault, after basically assaulting me (refusing to stop touching me) TWICE. Every time a woman was scorned in my prime, I would panic, and men as a whole are this way. This movement has opened up a horde of very bad women into more power than they should have. Believe all women, even the bad ones, without evidence, is what it turned to, and women are just as prone to using that as men. It is a God awful movement. October 29, 2019 at 5:35 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 1 0You are completely ignoring a culture of sexual abuse, harassment and assault that was allowed to thrive pre-this movement. Things like the young man who raped a passed out girl getting a slap on the wrist because he “came from a good family”. CEOs and executives getting away with harassing and firing their employees. Lots of positive things have come from this movement, just not for men who participate in harassing behaviors. If you didn’t have anything to worry about, you wouldn’t be so concerned. October 28, 2019 at 2:19 pm Questionning says: Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 15 4” many innocent men will be caught up in this wide catching net of extremism”. Were you as concerned about the many innocent women that have been caught up in the wide catching net of discrimination, pay inequity, sexual innuendo, jokes, pranks, and overall crap dealt to them by men who were their coworkers and their supervisors/management? That has been going on for years, and years, and years. #MeToo fall out or collateral damage is difficult and ugly. But unfortunately it had to happen or nothing would have changed. October 28, 2019 at 2:27 pm Reagan says: Like or Dislike: 7 12“collateral damage is difficult and ugly. But unfortunately it had to happen or nothing would have changed.” So, to you, it is ok if an innocent man’s life is ruined, he is bankrupted, jailed or worse and as long as you don’t have to hear dirty jokes anymore? October 28, 2019 at 2:39 pm Captain Planet says: Like or Dislike: 10 8Creagan (that’s you, isn’t it Craig?), question here – do you still refer to your female colleagues as “the gals in the office”? What about the innocent women who have been harassed in the workplace? It isn’t just dirty joke telling, but the fact you are making light of decades of sexual misconduct and maltreatment speaks volumes. If all you are afraid of is telling dirty jokes, save them for an environment away from the workplace. Problem for you solved. Not exactly a huge sacrifice you have to make for your co-workers’ sense of security. October 28, 2019 at 2:52 pm Questionning says: Like or Dislike: 8 3Reagan, do you honestly think men are being “bankrupted, jailed or worse” because they told a dirty joke? October 28, 2019 at 3:21 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 8 5This is very obviously bob trolling under a new name. Your argument is lunacy, the poor men that you expect jailed or worse for dirty jokes, and yet you ignore the women raped by their bosses that got away with it. I wonder why you’re so worried about this? You know the bulk of the people against this “movement” are ones that have quite a bit to fear from this “movement” maybe you’re protesting a little much bud? October 28, 2019 at 3:47 pm Captain Planet says: Like or Dislike: 10 5There is a statement I often hear from a certain demographic that says, “If you don’t like your job, and you don’t get paid enough,go get a new one. No one is forcing you to stay.” Reagan, if you want to tell dirty jokes, become a comedian. No one is forcing you to stay in insurance or corporate America at large. October 28, 2019 at 4:13 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 4 9I’m stealing that, I like that response a lot. These hypocritical dinosaurs don’t like it when you apply common sense logic to their own behaviors! October 29, 2019 at 2:03 pm Well... says: Like or Dislike: 4 0By that logic, to you, it isn’t harassment, women just can’t take a joke. The 50’s called and would like their talking points back. October 28, 2019 at 4:48 pm Reagan says: Like or Dislike: 7 9Responses were exactly as I suspected. Changing the topic, putting words in my mouth. Not wanting innocent men to be ruined, is not the same as wanting guilty men to go free. See, this is America, for maybe another year or so, but it still is today, and people are supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, mostly. Oh, and Capt. Planet, I don’t tell jokes, dirty or otherwise. October 28, 2019 at 6:52 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 3 6If you want to save innocent men, maybe go into practicing law? We’re in insurance. If you want to be in business in America, these are the rules. Cry more, snowflake. October 28, 2019 at 6:53 pm CommLinesAgent says: Like or Dislike: 2 2Define “Innocent Men” for me in your writings please… October 28, 2019 at 8:40 pm Craig Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 8 10Hey Reagan: don’t look for tolerance and understanding from the Lefties on Insurance Journal. It is the usual hate and name calling. Andrew loves it (so long as from the left). Just count the number of liberals outed by MeToo compared to the number of conservatives. For honest people (ie. not Insurance Journal commenters) what is the ratio? 10 to 1? 20 to 1? And then take comfort that pigs come from the left just as much and probably far more than from the right. Remember the 1950s, when men who told dirty jokes to women were frowned upon? when men opened doors for women out of respect? when men who were “players” were rare and generally frowned upon? The sexual revolution changed all that, and even if the Left refuses to tell the truth, it was the left that promoted sexual liberation and the resulting behavior like that from Harvey Weinstein and Bill Clinton and dozens of others. Oral sex in the oval office from a low level employee? Say WHAT? Imagine Eisenhower or Truman or FDR being accused of same. And the LEFT defended it all, covered it all up. (See NBC News and all the Bill Clinton defenders. MeToo anyone?.) October 29, 2019 at 11:55 am Jon says: Like or Dislike: 7 5Remember the 1950s, when men could beat their wives and it was socially acceptable as long as she kept her mouth shut? Remember the 1950s when it was okay to keep blacks in their place? God, you just love tha ttime don’t you? You conservative dinosaurs are quick to point out a “better” time, but exclusively better for white men. The world has moved on thankfully, keep acting like you do, let the lawsuits sort it out. October 29, 2019 at 5:43 pm Craig Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 2Physical abuse of women is rampant TODAY. Prove it was worse in the 1950s. Where is your link? Back it up. (Guaranteed: diversion, deflection, insults on the way). October 29, 2019 at 5:57 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 1 0time.com/3426225/domestic-violence-therapy/ In the 1950s they thought “wife beating” was therapeutic. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_in_the_United_States#History Modern attention to domestic violence began in the women’s movement of the 1970s, prezi.com/kvyuwpyayfpo/domestic-violence-in-the-1950s/ domesticshelters.org/articles/statistics/are-domestic-violence-rates-dropping ncadv.org/statistics Just good information you should look at. Most domestic violence wasn’t reported in the 1950s, because it wasn’t actually persecutable until the 1970s. As stated above, it was treated entirely differently back then and was far more common. You can try to glorify the past, but the reality is a much different picture. Greatest generation, huh? They bred your generation, which is entirely deluded as to what the reality of their situation really is all about. October 29, 2019 at 5:58 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 1 0But please, Craig, go ahead and try to divert, deflect and insult. It’s your response whenever you’re proven wrong, that or to just stop responding and go somewhere else on IJ to yell about your lies and disinformation. Why don’t you be a man and admit you’re wrong for once? Do I have to bring up the other times you’ve tried to lie and been caught again? October 29, 2019 at 6:12 pm Craig Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 0 2As I predicted, deflection, diversion and insults. Your links did NOT prove the 1950s were worse than today. However, you links did say this about today: “On average, nearly 20 people per minute are physically abused by an intimate partner in the United States. During one year, this equates to more than 10 million women and men.1 1 in 4 women and 1 in 9 men experience severe intimate partner physical violence, intimate partner contact sexual violence, and/or intimate partner stalking with impacts such as injury, fearfulness, post-traumatic stress disorder, use of victim services, contraction of sexually transmitted diseases, etc.” October 28, 2019 at 9:04 pm Craig Cornell says: Like or Dislike: 6 8Or today’s “defense” by NBC News of Democratic Congresswoman Katie Hill. Ms. Hill had a “throuple” with a young aide and her husband, in violation of Congressional rules established in 2018 as a result of MeToo. House Reps. are never to have relationships with staff say the rules. The evidence against Hill is overwhelming. She quit today. But NBC News calls it an “unsubstantiated ethics investigation”. No mention of the actual sexual accusation. once again, The LEFT covering up for the Left. MeToo be damned. October 29, 2019 at 11:54 am Jon says: Like or Dislike: 5 6Unrelated to the article, nice job, Craig. Keep goalpost shifting. October 29, 2019 at 5:42 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 1 0My point was valid. You were lamenting the the 1950s when “men told dirty jokes” and “held the doors open for women” and whining about the sexual revolution changing that. The 1950s were actually awful for lots of people who weren’t white men, but you conveniently ignored that in your pining for “better” days. Sorry, if you’re going to be ignorant in public I’m going to point it out. October 29, 2019 at 6:43 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 1 0Remember when you cowards on the right couldn’t stop talking about things from 25 years ago to try and deflect from the monster you put in the white house? Ah, the days we live in. I was a kid when Clinton happened, you were an adult when your party put kids in cages. My conscience is clear, how do you look at yourself in the mirror? Nevermind, I already know. By completely avoiding any introspection whatsoever. October 28, 2019 at 9:53 pm Observor says: Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 17 0The movement is even impacting my pets. My dogs wont chase cats anymore because of the “Me-ow too” movement. October 29, 2019 at 8:37 am Rosenblatt says: Like or Dislike: 8 2Hahaha, thanks. I needed the laugh after reading all the comments below mine. Well played. October 29, 2019 at 10:35 am Smooth says: Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 18 0I’m sort of torn on my thoughts regarding #metoo. I agree it has helped women tremendously, especially those working for a narcissistic owner/manager. I have seen the downside of the movement too though. I saw a long time company employee get terminated for telling a blond(e) joke. It wasn’t dirty, but a new female employee who was at least 50 feet from him when he told the joke, went to HR and said she felt harassed and demanded something be done. The person who was terminated was almost 70. The girl was in her early 20’s and it was her first year out of college. She couldn’t even tell the HR Department what the joke was, only that she heard part of it and it had to do with women, so she claimed harassment. This was at a very large Carrier. The girl who went to HR quit within a few months and the older guy was re-hired after filing a lawsuit. Things were very ugly there for about a year. In the end, employees were told to not even make jokes that “other could find offensive”, so no jokes anymore at all as someone will always find something to complain about. More than once, I have seen a man have his life torn apart by an accusation from a female. It was baseless and untrue. The men were found to have done nothing wrong (one was a court case in my area), but their reputations were ruined. I think if someone makes false accusations, there should be major consequences. As of today, there are zero consequences in most states. That’s just unfair. It could happen to any of us, man or woman If someone accuses you of anything sexually related (joke, compliment, etc.) you are guilty until proven innocent. Once you are proven innocent, if that’s the case, your career is still trashed. So, #metoo has done a great job in terms of clearing out Hollywood of the pigs, but the trickle down effect seems to have gone astray. I’m in the Midwest and the number of signs we have along the highway from sexual harassment attorneys is almost comical. As for me, I just keep my mouth shut at work. If I need a laugh, I come to IJ and read the comments. I don’t care how great your new shirt looks, I’m not saying a word about it. October 29, 2019 at 2:25 pm CommLinesAgent says: Like or Dislike: 3 0“So, #metoo has done a great job in terms of clearing out Hollywood of the pigs, but the trickle down effect seems to have gone astray. I’m in the Midwest and the number of signs we have along the highway from sexual harassment attorneys is almost comical. As for me, I just keep my mouth shut at work. If I need a laugh, I come to IJ and read the comments. I don’t care how great your new shirt looks, I’m not saying a word about it.” very well said. October 29, 2019 at 12:11 pm Joe says: Like or Dislike: 7 0Well said Smooth. Society attempts to achieve perfection by ignoring the differences between men and women and applying the one size fits all mentality. And to a large degree that has become a necessity in the workplace to comply with EEO mandates. The challenge is to not promote #MeTooMuch and dredge up 30 year old complaints as if that helps improve today’s workforce. Everyone deserves to be heard when harassment occurs, as soon as possible so that both sides of the story can be told. I have been on the receiving end from a female executive who thought it ok to touch inappropriately, and decided it wasn’t worth my time to make a complaint. It was her personal problem to deal with and my decision not to pursue it. October 29, 2019 at 2:31 pm ralph says: Like or Dislike: 2 0although more rare, It can be difficult for guys being sexually harassed since we’re seen as “weak” for complaining. When I was in high school, there were a few girls who would randomly grab the butts of the “nerdy” guys (yep, I was one of them, back when it wasn’t cool to be a nerd) and pretend they were attracted to them. It was unbelievably embarrassing, but try going to anyone in power about it. As far as in the workplace, it’s fairly simple in this day and age: Don’t say anything to the opposite sex that you wouldn’t want said to your spouse, parent, sibling, child, or friend. October 29, 2019 at 4:04 pm Marketing Guy says: Like or Dislike: 0 2What is amazing is the fact that most of you don’t have jobs so you have time for this rhetoric or perhaps you do have jobs and you are stealing time from your employer to engage in posting faceless comments. When I read the comments (on my own time), the same comment authors appear over and over. My suggestion would be that they get a life. Engage in something other than faceless duck and cover hyperbole. If it is something you feel strongly about, (here’s an idea): ENGAGE with someone. Have a real conversation which involves both talking and (wait for it) LISTENING. And for those who occasionally bemoan that the IJ is left leaning: The articles in IJ are sourced from elsewhere. This is a news aggregation publication. The fact that it is left leaning or right leaning depends on the original article source. Hellloooo, don’t you people get that? October 29, 2019 at 5:51 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 1 0LOL You mad bro? I actually quite enjoy talking with people in person, that’s not an issue. I just also like providing a counterpoint from the left-blaming windbags that were haunting this board prior to my involvement. This board used to be filled with Craig, Polar and Agent yelling about how awful the left were, while arguing for taking away rights, polluting the planet and oppressing women. Now we at least have a counterpoint on occasion! October 29, 2019 at 5:51 pm Jon says: Like or Dislike: 1 0Also, what, you can’t multi-task? I manage to write business AND school these clowns on here :) Comment have been closed for this article.