It’s interesting Andrew that you removed my comment about child support when it’s well documented many professional athletes have had an issue with maintaining these payments once they are no longer playing. In no way did my comment intend to insinuate anything other than a statement of the facts and if you construed a different meaning then I suspect you’re the one with the issue?
The story is about 10 individual athletes, not athletes in general. Your comment suggested without any evidence whatsoever that they have child support payment problems. That’s unacceptable stereotyping. I do have a problem with that.
No broad brush Andrew. Clinton Portis and Reche Caldwell both had family/child support debts that were addressed with their bankruptcies. I added this to Jacks “bling”, “cars”, and “monster TV” comments. You have the delete key so you get to define “unacceptable stereotyping”? It’s acceptable to stereotype Republicans & Democrats or liberals & conservatives on this site by many posters but athletes are off limits? You’re reading way too much into my comments and it’s not a good look for you.
December 13, 2019 at 3:27 pm
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Then why didn’t you also remove JaxAgent’s comment? Does he know for a fact that they, “pissed it away on cars, monster tv’s, and bling?” His comment, as you noted to SWFL Agent, was suggested without any evidence whatsoever that they have pissed their money away. If you are going to get upset about stereotyping, at least be thorough and consistent about it.
December 13, 2019 at 4:02 pm
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Sorry, can’t catch them all; don’t have the time or resources. But one inappropriate comment does not justify another.
December 12, 2019 at 5:11 pm
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Actually beyond Joe Horn and Clinton Portis, none of them made millions in their careers. Rogers had an 8-10 year long career, but the others played 1-2 years only and likely made very little after training costs to maintain and/or regain their roster spots are considered.
This is fraud and they should be charged, but who was approving these claims?? “The expensive medical equipment included…ultrasound machines designed for …women’s health examinations and electromagnetic therapy devices designed for use on horses.
Thank god this comment doesn’t have any downvotes implying that people think the claims for EM-equine devices should’ve been approved in the first place :)
I think these charges are ridiculous as well; however, large animal equipment is very often used for humans. A university I worked at used a K-40 counter in the animal science department (designed for livestock lean/fat ratio) for athletes to determine their muscle:fat ratio. Many ultrasounds used for large animals use transducers that can be used for a number uses. One prof found out his wife was having twins when he used our livestock ultrasound on his wife (used externally of course-not interior like in cattle, of course!).
Thanks for the information, Cuivre. I never would have guessed the non-human medical devices listed in the article could benefit humans (hence why one was made with humans in mind and the others made, for example, with horses in mind). I’m not going to dive into trying to find research or studies that support the medical necessity of using that type of equipment on humans and will take your comment at face value – I appreciate the knowledge and I stand corrected.
My favorite comment on the news was one of the more prominent guys stating that he did not know that it was illegal! It makes me wonder if the colleges that are initially training these guys, have any requirements for actual education? How many Athliets cannot construct an intelligent sentence, or use actual words that are part of the English language?
Wow.
This speaks to a larger cultural perception that lying to your insurer to get money is not a crime. So many people who wouldn’t even consider shoplifting or stealing in general are ‘ok’ with lying to an insurer to put extra money in their pockets by either outright lying about damages or expenses or embellishing.
I saw another article that questioned why the feds would be looking into this. Plan administrators were tracking these claims due to their extreme nature and apparently referred the information out for investigation.
These guys make millions and then do this.
Think they were in on the concussion suit as well? Wouldn’t be surprised.
It’s interesting Andrew that you removed my comment about child support when it’s well documented many professional athletes have had an issue with maintaining these payments once they are no longer playing. In no way did my comment intend to insinuate anything other than a statement of the facts and if you construed a different meaning then I suspect you’re the one with the issue?
The story is about 10 individual athletes, not athletes in general. Your comment suggested without any evidence whatsoever that they have child support payment problems. That’s unacceptable stereotyping. I do have a problem with that.
No broad brush Andrew. Clinton Portis and Reche Caldwell both had family/child support debts that were addressed with their bankruptcies. I added this to Jacks “bling”, “cars”, and “monster TV” comments. You have the delete key so you get to define “unacceptable stereotyping”? It’s acceptable to stereotype Republicans & Democrats or liberals & conservatives on this site by many posters but athletes are off limits? You’re reading way too much into my comments and it’s not a good look for you.
Andrew,
Then why didn’t you also remove JaxAgent’s comment? Does he know for a fact that they, “pissed it away on cars, monster tv’s, and bling?” His comment, as you noted to SWFL Agent, was suggested without any evidence whatsoever that they have pissed their money away. If you are going to get upset about stereotyping, at least be thorough and consistent about it.
Sorry, can’t catch them all; don’t have the time or resources. But one inappropriate comment does not justify another.
Actually beyond Joe Horn and Clinton Portis, none of them made millions in their careers. Rogers had an 8-10 year long career, but the others played 1-2 years only and likely made very little after training costs to maintain and/or regain their roster spots are considered.
This is fraud and they should be charged, but who was approving these claims?? “The expensive medical equipment included…ultrasound machines designed for …women’s health examinations and electromagnetic therapy devices designed for use on horses.
Thank god this comment doesn’t have any downvotes implying that people think the claims for EM-equine devices should’ve been approved in the first place :)
I think these charges are ridiculous as well; however, large animal equipment is very often used for humans. A university I worked at used a K-40 counter in the animal science department (designed for livestock lean/fat ratio) for athletes to determine their muscle:fat ratio. Many ultrasounds used for large animals use transducers that can be used for a number uses. One prof found out his wife was having twins when he used our livestock ultrasound on his wife (used externally of course-not interior like in cattle, of course!).
Thanks for the information, Cuivre. I never would have guessed the non-human medical devices listed in the article could benefit humans (hence why one was made with humans in mind and the others made, for example, with horses in mind). I’m not going to dive into trying to find research or studies that support the medical necessity of using that type of equipment on humans and will take your comment at face value – I appreciate the knowledge and I stand corrected.
My favorite comment on the news was one of the more prominent guys stating that he did not know that it was illegal! It makes me wonder if the colleges that are initially training these guys, have any requirements for actual education? How many Athliets cannot construct an intelligent sentence, or use actual words that are part of the English language?
You mean actual words like “Athliets?”
Sorry to be grammar police but it just defeated the point you were trying to make.
Wow.
This speaks to a larger cultural perception that lying to your insurer to get money is not a crime. So many people who wouldn’t even consider shoplifting or stealing in general are ‘ok’ with lying to an insurer to put extra money in their pockets by either outright lying about damages or expenses or embellishing.
I saw another article that questioned why the feds would be looking into this. Plan administrators were tracking these claims due to their extreme nature and apparently referred the information out for investigation.
Definitely high profile – it makes a statement.