Dread:
In legal parlance, overwhelming evidence is commonly known as “preponderance” of evidence. There are a lot of other questions to be answered, but it appears you are on the “right track”. My guess is that in the absence of any other evidence of another party being the culprit, this dude aint’t very smart.
I’m glad they are throwing the book at these losers. It most certainly endangers the lives of emergency services and the neighbors. In my town about 20 years ago some knucklehead torches his families warehouse for the insurance money. Four firefighters who were in the building thinking there may be homeless people trapped had the roof collapse on them. Best to put these kinds of thoughtless criminals away.
Let’s think about this…….but not for very long. The names themselves are an indicator as is the fact they are 24 years old, claim to be man and wife, but aren’t married. They were going to vacation for 3 weeks in WEST VIRGINIA?????
You can spend a week there in two days!!!!
Dalton seeks medical attention for “burns” the morning of the fire???????? A propane tank (with the valve open) is found in the house????????
They shouldn’t even waste taxpayer money on a trial. Guilty by reason of overwhelming evidence and gross stupidity. These are not the kind of people you want wandering around society and, lord forbid, reproducing.
Mollie……..I’ll bet you still believe in the Easter Bunny. What about the burns on the guys hands that were treated at a local ER the day of the fire? What about the propane tank that was left open inside the house? And……who in their right mind would “vacation” in West Virginia for 3 weeks? If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, and acts like a rat it’s a good bet it’s a RAT.
This does sound like it should be a nomination for an honorable mention for the Darwin awards. WV has more than its share of award winners but it does sound better to say they were visiting family for 3 weeks rather than vacationing. And it shows they were smart enough to have an explanation for why all of their prized possessions were out of the house. I wonder if they’d lost jobs (3 weeks is a long vacation for a 24 year old) or if they were in trouble with one of those creative mortgages. Hope we learn more on this one and glad they didn’t harm anyone.
Something is lacking in the moral fibre and up-bringing of these people. At age 24, where does anyone get off torching a house to escape individual responsibility?
Alecia,
if you read my post of the third again you will see that I said I think they are GUILTY.
I have seen the house up close, THEY SET THE FIRE.
They still deserve a fair trial as stated by our laws.
Also if you have ever been in the military you will know that many of them vacation some where for three weeks just to spend that time with family.
Doesn’t matter where that family lives, Virginia or timbucktoo, it happens all the time.
They did not lose jobs, HE WAS & STILL IS MILITARY. Members of the Military get four weeks a year for vacation. They can take that all at once or over time during the year.
He was on vacation, not out of a job.
She probably did not work.
I know one of the people whose house was damaged by this fire & I thank God no one was hurt by what they did.
Considering the bastardization of our once respectable legal system the terms “bring them to justice” and “fair trial” have become tainted. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence, a trial can be littlem more than a personal challenge for a criminal defense attorney to convice a jury his client “didn’t do it”. This charade is carried out everyday in this country. Crafting questions so the jury only hears what they want it to hear. Suppresing evidence over technicalities. Making law enforcement jump through hoops to make a case. I’m starting to think the term “trial” actually means “try and get away with it”. Add to that the sympathy factor inherent in most juries that prevent them from making the tough decisions. I can hear the closing argument now. “ladies and gentlemen, my clients proudly serve their country in the military. Through no fault of their own, they found themselves unable to pay their mortgage because somebody told them they’d be able to afford it. Never mind their stupidity and personal responsibility to find a way out of this mess without committing the crime of arson and endangering the lives of others. Justice would not be served by convicting them.”
I hope you are wrong & they don’t get away with it.
I can see how the jury may have smypathy for them though.
I think I will follow this story & see what happens to them.
This is a bunch of jibberish from Aleshia who has no idea what she is talking about. Are you trying to sound intelligent and like you know what the court system is like? It is a crap shoot baby. In this case these two will be tried by a civilian court of law AND then HE will ALSO be handed over to the Military for trial and will undoubtedly lose the Staff Sergeant stripe he just found out he made after returning from his MILITARY LEAVE OF 3 WEEKS. He will be court martialed and have a nice long vacation in Leavinworth. Yes Alicia, people do have family in West Virginia and DO spend 3 weeks there. It was very ignorant of you to judge and put down the entire State of West Virginia just because of this couples desperate attempt at gaining insurance money from burning down their home. W.V. is a beautiful place with friendly people, so obviously you are not from there we can tell.
This young couple unfortunately committed a desparate act to find a better life of which they have now completely ruined. I know him, I don’t know her. He never struck me as the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it is just as wrong for all of you to judge a man until you have walked in his shoes, right or wrong. I get willies from the name DREAD too. I dealt with someone with that name once too, I dreaded it ever since!! Talk about what’s in a name!
Pull your heads out people!
What is the outcome of the story about the couple that alledgedly committed arson on their home in Crestview, Florida? Did they go to prison and for how long? It was a man named Zachary Dalton and his wife Kellie Hahn.
to all whom were “concerned”…this case was apparently dismissed, or they were not guilty and they are still looking for the people who did this. they had a eye witness as to whom it was and they still have not been able to locate the truly guilty individual that tore these people’s lives apart. the newspaper articles exaggerated a bit…as usual…anyone think of that before posting such harsh statements about people you dont even know? but as for where they are now and how they are, anyone heard? i hope they are well…
Dread:
In legal parlance, overwhelming evidence is commonly known as “preponderance” of evidence. There are a lot of other questions to be answered, but it appears you are on the “right track”. My guess is that in the absence of any other evidence of another party being the culprit, this dude aint’t very smart.
I’m glad they are throwing the book at these losers. It most certainly endangers the lives of emergency services and the neighbors. In my town about 20 years ago some knucklehead torches his families warehouse for the insurance money. Four firefighters who were in the building thinking there may be homeless people trapped had the roof collapse on them. Best to put these kinds of thoughtless criminals away.
Let’s think about this…….but not for very long. The names themselves are an indicator as is the fact they are 24 years old, claim to be man and wife, but aren’t married. They were going to vacation for 3 weeks in WEST VIRGINIA?????
You can spend a week there in two days!!!!
Dalton seeks medical attention for “burns” the morning of the fire???????? A propane tank (with the valve open) is found in the house????????
They shouldn’t even waste taxpayer money on a trial. Guilty by reason of overwhelming evidence and gross stupidity. These are not the kind of people you want wandering around society and, lord forbid, reproducing.
Ok, I too think they are guilty. They still have a right to a fair trial.
They are Military, they were going to Virginia to visit family.
All which explains the three weeks they were going to spend there.
And the stupidity.
Mollie……..I’ll bet you still believe in the Easter Bunny. What about the burns on the guys hands that were treated at a local ER the day of the fire? What about the propane tank that was left open inside the house? And……who in their right mind would “vacation” in West Virginia for 3 weeks? If it looks like a rat, smells like a rat, and acts like a rat it’s a good bet it’s a RAT.
This does sound like it should be a nomination for an honorable mention for the Darwin awards. WV has more than its share of award winners but it does sound better to say they were visiting family for 3 weeks rather than vacationing. And it shows they were smart enough to have an explanation for why all of their prized possessions were out of the house. I wonder if they’d lost jobs (3 weeks is a long vacation for a 24 year old) or if they were in trouble with one of those creative mortgages. Hope we learn more on this one and glad they didn’t harm anyone.
Something is lacking in the moral fibre and up-bringing of these people. At age 24, where does anyone get off torching a house to escape individual responsibility?
Alecia,
if you read my post of the third again you will see that I said I think they are GUILTY.
I have seen the house up close, THEY SET THE FIRE.
They still deserve a fair trial as stated by our laws.
Also if you have ever been in the military you will know that many of them vacation some where for three weeks just to spend that time with family.
Doesn’t matter where that family lives, Virginia or timbucktoo, it happens all the time.
They did not lose jobs, HE WAS & STILL IS MILITARY. Members of the Military get four weeks a year for vacation. They can take that all at once or over time during the year.
He was on vacation, not out of a job.
She probably did not work.
I know one of the people whose house was damaged by this fire & I thank God no one was hurt by what they did.
Considering the bastardization of our once respectable legal system the terms “bring them to justice” and “fair trial” have become tainted. Even in the face of overwhelming evidence, a trial can be littlem more than a personal challenge for a criminal defense attorney to convice a jury his client “didn’t do it”. This charade is carried out everyday in this country. Crafting questions so the jury only hears what they want it to hear. Suppresing evidence over technicalities. Making law enforcement jump through hoops to make a case. I’m starting to think the term “trial” actually means “try and get away with it”. Add to that the sympathy factor inherent in most juries that prevent them from making the tough decisions. I can hear the closing argument now. “ladies and gentlemen, my clients proudly serve their country in the military. Through no fault of their own, they found themselves unable to pay their mortgage because somebody told them they’d be able to afford it. Never mind their stupidity and personal responsibility to find a way out of this mess without committing the crime of arson and endangering the lives of others. Justice would not be served by convicting them.”
I hope you are wrong & they don’t get away with it.
I can see how the jury may have smypathy for them though.
I think I will follow this story & see what happens to them.
This is a bunch of jibberish from Aleshia who has no idea what she is talking about. Are you trying to sound intelligent and like you know what the court system is like? It is a crap shoot baby. In this case these two will be tried by a civilian court of law AND then HE will ALSO be handed over to the Military for trial and will undoubtedly lose the Staff Sergeant stripe he just found out he made after returning from his MILITARY LEAVE OF 3 WEEKS. He will be court martialed and have a nice long vacation in Leavinworth. Yes Alicia, people do have family in West Virginia and DO spend 3 weeks there. It was very ignorant of you to judge and put down the entire State of West Virginia just because of this couples desperate attempt at gaining insurance money from burning down their home. W.V. is a beautiful place with friendly people, so obviously you are not from there we can tell.
This young couple unfortunately committed a desparate act to find a better life of which they have now completely ruined. I know him, I don’t know her. He never struck me as the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it is just as wrong for all of you to judge a man until you have walked in his shoes, right or wrong. I get willies from the name DREAD too. I dealt with someone with that name once too, I dreaded it ever since!! Talk about what’s in a name!
Pull your heads out people!
Has anyone heard any updates to this story?
What is the outcome of the story about the couple that alledgedly committed arson on their home in Crestview, Florida? Did they go to prison and for how long? It was a man named Zachary Dalton and his wife Kellie Hahn.
to all whom were “concerned”…this case was apparently dismissed, or they were not guilty and they are still looking for the people who did this. they had a eye witness as to whom it was and they still have not been able to locate the truly guilty individual that tore these people’s lives apart. the newspaper articles exaggerated a bit…as usual…anyone think of that before posting such harsh statements about people you dont even know? but as for where they are now and how they are, anyone heard? i hope they are well…