I believe that the vast majority of these jobless folks don\’t have any business in the US. For us to help them with taxpayer dollars is a joke- I\’m not a prejudice person and have many friends with different origins but they are legal. Please Google Richard Lamm and see what tis fellow has to say about the American Dream.
The fact that the Insurance Journal refuses to post both sides of the global warming issue proves that they are not only irresponsible to the industry they serve, but they are a left wing biased publication. The latest trends does not support any long term global warming.
Amen, IndAgent. What ended the last Ice Age if not global warming? Did you know tha the ice caps on Mars are shrinking also? I think that might have more to do with the sun than with too many SUV\’s. Just like on earth.
I wonder if since it\’s to be on a first come – first serve basis, if the Katrina evacuee\’s will beat everyone else to the front of the lineto claim some more free money.
Arnold needs to re-think this & make sure that the people are who they say they are before they realize that over half the funds distributed went to liars & that the real folks that were left out in the cold so to speak, are literally left out in the cold!
I hope it helps the ones that really need it & will help to identify the ones that are here illegally so they can be shipped back to their home countries.
I am all for immigration, think it\’s a great thing for anyone that wants to have a betetr life, but do it through the channels that are in place so that our Government knows who\’s who with regard to the citizens that are approved to remain.
It\’s not the ones that want to work & build a better life that I have a problem with, it\’s those that have already caused havoc in their country & come here to continue with their molestation, thieving, assault, etc… I say if they are illegal & they are busted for a crime, send them to Arizona & make them live in a prison for a minimum of 5 years with no AC & no amenitities, you know… nothing to make them want to keep coming in droves to this country. I mean, if they were free in their country & did crimes there – let them stay – we don\’t want them. Dang, I jumped up on that soap box again & didn\’t mean to!
I am disappointed by the comments I\’m reading. While I agree that citizenship should be checked before handing out government aid, I think it is very presumptuous to assume all those those who were affected by the freeze are illegal or that there are not provisions in place to check for this.
Global warming IS happening and I think it\’s incredibly ignorant for anyone to disagree with the science behind it. Now with that being said, the causes still remain unknown.
Yes, the polar caps on Mars are melting, indication that the sun is changing. Scientists recently came out and said the next solar flare is going to be the biggest one we\’ve seen.
And yet hundreds of scientists across the globe, who know much more about the topic than I, have got together in the past months and determined that people ARE influencing the warming of the earth and thus helping aid in the cyclical climate changes we are experiencing. (Global warming doesn\’t just cause HEAT, it causes an increase in all forms of climate change; snow storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, drought, etc…)
Time will show that climate change IS happening and those not on board will look like fools.
Caused by man or not, why would anyone advocate causing more damage to our planet? Our source of food, oxygen, water, LIFE? Because it hurts big business? Give me break.
\”Global warming IS happening and I think it\’s incredibly ignorant for anyone to disagree with the science behind it. Now with that being said, the causes still remain unknown.\” -Cat
No one denies that the globe is warming. It is always either warming or cooling. The only question is, Is man the cause? Here are some incredibly ignorant people who think he isn\’t:
\”Now with that being said, the causes still remain unknown.
Yes, the polar caps on Mars are melting, indication that the sun is changing. Scientists recently came out and said the next solar flare is going to be the biggest one we\’ve seen. \” — me
And again:
“Caused by man or not, why would anyone advocate causing more damage to our planet?” -me
I don\’t disagree with you or those you quoted that man might not be the cause of the climate change we are facing today. All too frequently I read on this site and hear in person people denying the existence of global warming or climate change all together.
For example, an earlier comment:
“The fact that the Insurance Journal refuses to post both sides of the global warming issue proves that they are not only irresponsible to the industry they serve, but they are a left wing biased publication. The latest trends does not support any long term global warming.” — IndAgent
Global warming is increasing because of the constant puncture wounds in our atmosphere by all the space flights that are being done. The holes from these space flights allow outside gasses & solar radiation into our atmosphere through openings that did not exist many years ago.
It\’s kinda like a child picking a sore, it never heals & is spread, causing bacterial infections on the surrounding skin, until it eventually leads to a serious disease.
Now… to all you folks that have another opinion, feel free to express it as well. Since we are getting quotes from so many other sources, I think it would be interesting to see what your theories are.
About the article though, I have to agree that it would be nice to see some type program in place to confirm the status of everyone prior to receiving aid, so that the illegals are not compensated & the liars are found out before they take the money & run!
I believe that the vast majority of these jobless folks don\’t have any business in the US. For us to help them with taxpayer dollars is a joke- I\’m not a prejudice person and have many friends with different origins but they are legal. Please Google Richard Lamm and see what tis fellow has to say about the American Dream.
The fact that the Insurance Journal refuses to post both sides of the global warming issue proves that they are not only irresponsible to the industry they serve, but they are a left wing biased publication. The latest trends does not support any long term global warming.
Everytime I read the word \”Freeze\” I had to snicker. I can still picture Arnold saying it in Batman.
A major global warming insurance crises! What a joke!
I don\’t even want to know how many of these workers are illegals.
Global warming, paying for illegals, brought to you by the libs, but we need them to continue to remind us on how asinine the liberal way of life is.
Hallelujah, Al. I certainly hope whomever is handing out this money is asking for proof of US citizenship.
Amen, IndAgent. What ended the last Ice Age if not global warming? Did you know tha the ice caps on Mars are shrinking also? I think that might have more to do with the sun than with too many SUV\’s. Just like on earth.
Sun melting Ice??? Now that is way too advanced thinking for the editors of the Insurance Journal!
I wonder if since it\’s to be on a first come – first serve basis, if the Katrina evacuee\’s will beat everyone else to the front of the lineto claim some more free money.
Arnold needs to re-think this & make sure that the people are who they say they are before they realize that over half the funds distributed went to liars & that the real folks that were left out in the cold so to speak, are literally left out in the cold!
I hope it helps the ones that really need it & will help to identify the ones that are here illegally so they can be shipped back to their home countries.
I am all for immigration, think it\’s a great thing for anyone that wants to have a betetr life, but do it through the channels that are in place so that our Government knows who\’s who with regard to the citizens that are approved to remain.
It\’s not the ones that want to work & build a better life that I have a problem with, it\’s those that have already caused havoc in their country & come here to continue with their molestation, thieving, assault, etc… I say if they are illegal & they are busted for a crime, send them to Arizona & make them live in a prison for a minimum of 5 years with no AC & no amenitities, you know… nothing to make them want to keep coming in droves to this country. I mean, if they were free in their country & did crimes there – let them stay – we don\’t want them. Dang, I jumped up on that soap box again & didn\’t mean to!
Have a great day!
I am disappointed by the comments I\’m reading. While I agree that citizenship should be checked before handing out government aid, I think it is very presumptuous to assume all those those who were affected by the freeze are illegal or that there are not provisions in place to check for this.
Global warming IS happening and I think it\’s incredibly ignorant for anyone to disagree with the science behind it. Now with that being said, the causes still remain unknown.
Yes, the polar caps on Mars are melting, indication that the sun is changing. Scientists recently came out and said the next solar flare is going to be the biggest one we\’ve seen.
And yet hundreds of scientists across the globe, who know much more about the topic than I, have got together in the past months and determined that people ARE influencing the warming of the earth and thus helping aid in the cyclical climate changes we are experiencing. (Global warming doesn\’t just cause HEAT, it causes an increase in all forms of climate change; snow storms, hurricanes, tornadoes, drought, etc…)
Time will show that climate change IS happening and those not on board will look like fools.
Caused by man or not, why would anyone advocate causing more damage to our planet? Our source of food, oxygen, water, LIFE? Because it hurts big business? Give me break.
\”Global warming IS happening and I think it\’s incredibly ignorant for anyone to disagree with the science behind it. Now with that being said, the causes still remain unknown.\” -Cat
No one denies that the globe is warming. It is always either warming or cooling. The only question is, Is man the cause? Here are some incredibly ignorant people who think he isn\’t:
Khabibullo Ismailovich Abdusamatov, at Pulkovskaya Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the supervisor of the Astrometria project of the Russian section of the International Space Station: \”Global warming results not from the emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, but from an unusually high level of solar radiation and a lengthy – almost throughout the last century – growth in its intensity.\” (Russian News & Information Agency, Jan. 15, 2007 [11]) (See also [12], [13], [14])
Sallie Baliunas, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics: \”[T]he recent warming trend in the surface temperature record cannot be caused by the increase of human-made greenhouse gases in the air.\” [15] In 2003 Baliunas and Soon wrote that \”there is no reliable evidence for increased severity or frequency of storms, droughts, or floods that can be related to the air’s increased greenhouse gas content.\” [16]
Robert M. Carter, researcher at the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University in Australia: \”The essence of the issue is this. Climate changes naturally all the time, partly in predictable cycles, and partly in unpredictable shorter rhythms and rapid episodic shifts, some of the causes of which remain unknown.\” (Telegraph, April 9, 2006 [17])
George V. Chilingar, professor of civil and petroleum engineering at the University of Southern California, and Leonid F. Khilyuk: \”The authors identify and describe the following global forces of nature driving the Earth’s climate: (1) solar radiation …, (2) outgassing as a major supplier of gases to the World Ocean and the atmosphere, and, possibly, (3) microbial activities … . The writers provide quantitative estimates of the scope and extent of their corresponding effects on the Earth’s climate [and] show that the human-induced climatic changes are negligible.\” (Environmental Geology, vol. 50 no. 6, August 2006 [18])
Ian Clark, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa: \”That portion of the scientific community that attributes climate warming to CO2 relies on the hypothesis that increasing CO2, which is in fact a minor greenhouse gas, triggers a much larger water vapour response to warm the atmosphere. This mechanism has never been tested scientifically beyond the mathematical models that predict extensive warming, and are confounded by the complexity of cloud formation – which has a cooling effect. … We know that [the sun] was responsible for climate change in the past, and so is clearly going to play the lead role in present and future climate change. And interestingly… solar activity has recently begun a downward cycle.\” (The Hill Times, March 22, 2004 [19])
Robert H. Essenhigh, E. G. Bailey Professor of Mechanical Engineering at the Department of Mechanical Engineering, Ohio State University: \”The outcome is that the conclusions of advocates of the CO2-driver theory are evidently back to front: It’s the temperature that is driving the CO2. If there are flaws in these propositions, I’m listening; but if there are objections, let’s have them with the numbers.\” (Chemical Innovation, May 2001 [20])
Lee C. Gerhard, formerly Principal Geologist of the Kansas Geological Survey[21], currently with oil and gas explorationists Thomasson Partner Associates, Inc.[22]: \”There is no clear discernible effect of human activities on global temperature: [23]
William M. Gray, professor of atmospheric science and meteorologist, Colorado State University: \”This small warming is likely a result of the natural alterations in global ocean currents which are driven by ocean salinity variations. Ocean circulation variations are as yet little understood. Human kind has little or nothing to do with the recent temperature changes. We are not that influential.\” (BBC News, 16 Nov 2000 [24]) \”I am of the opinion that [global warming] is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American people.\” (Washington Post, May 28, 2006 [25]) \”So many people have a vested interest in this global-warming thing—all these big labs and research and stuff. The idea is to frighten the public, to get money to study it more.\” (Discover, vol. 26 no. 9, September 2005 [26])
Zbigniew Jaworowski, chair of the Scientific Council at the Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection in Warsaw: \”The atmospheric temperature variations do not follow the changes in the concentrations of CO2 … climate change fluctuations comes … from cosmic radiation.\” (21st Century Science & Technology, Winter 2003-2004, p. 52-65 [27])
Martin Keeley [28], Director of oil and gas exploration consultancy Fieldco International Ltd.: \”I have come across no rigorous proof that wasteful human pollution has caused any significant climate change. … The only proof of anthropogenic climate change ever offered, which to my mind is fallacious, is that temperature has increased with Western industrialisation. … Global warming is indeed a scam, perpetrated by scientists with vested interests, but in need of crash courses in geology, logic and the philosophy of science.\” (BBC News, December 6, 2004 [29])
David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware: \”About half of the warming during the 20th century occurred prior to the 1940s, and natural variability accounts for all or nearly all of the warming.\” (May 15, 2006 [30])
Marcel Leroux, former Professor of Climatology, Université Jean Moulin: \”The possible causes, then, of climate change are: well-established orbital parameters on the palaeoclimatic scale, … solar activity, …; volcanism …; and far at the rear, the greenhouse effect, and in particular that caused by water vapor, the extent of its influence being unknown. These factors are working together all the time, and it seems difficult to unravel the relative importance of their respective influences upon climatic evolution. Equally, it is tendentious to highlight the anthropic factor, which is, clearly, the least credible among all those previously mentioned.\” (M. Leroux, Global Warming – Myth or Reality?, 2005, p. 120 [31])
Tim Patterson [32], paleoclimatologist and Professor of Geology at Carleton University in Canada: \”There is no meaningful correlation between CO2 levels and Earth\’s temperature over this [geologic] time frame. In fact, when CO2 levels were over ten times higher than they are now, about 450 million years ago, the planet was in the depths of the absolute coldest period in the last half billion years. On the basis of this evidence, how could anyone still believe that the recent relatively small increase in CO2 levels would be the major cause of the past century\’s modest warming?\” [33]
Frederick Seitz, retired, former solid-state physicist, former president of the National Academy of Sciences: \”So we see that the scientific facts indicate that all the temperature changes observed in the last 100 years were largely natural changes and were not caused by carbon dioxide produced in human activities.\” (Environment News, 2001 [34])
Nir Shaviv, astrophysicist at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem: \”[T]he truth is probably somewhere in between [the common view and that of skeptics], with natural causes probably being more important over the past century, whereas anthropogenic causes will probably be more dominant over the next century. … [A]bout 2/3\’s (give or take a third or so) of the warming [over the past century] should be attributed to increased solar activity and the remaining to anthropogenic causes.\” His opinion is based on some proxies of solar activity over the past few centuries. [35]
Fred Singer, Professor emeritus of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia: \”The greenhouse effect is real. However, the effect is minute, insignificant, and very difficult to detect.\” (Christian Science Monitor, April 22, 2005) [36] \”The Earth currently is experiencing a warming trend, but there is scientific evidence that human activities have little to do with it.\”, NCPA Study No. 279, Sep. 2005 [37]. “It’s not automatically true that warming is bad, I happen to believe that warming is good, and so do many economists.” (CBC\’s Denial machine @ 19:23 – Google Video Link)
Willie Soon, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics: \”[T]here\’s increasingly strong evidence that previous research conclusions, including those of the United Nations and the United States government concerning 20th century warming, may have been biased by underestimation of natural climate variations. The bottom line is that if these variations are indeed proven true, then, yes, natural climate fluctuations could be a dominant factor in the recent warming. In other words, natural factors could be more important than previously assumed.\” (Harvard University Gazette, 24 April 2003 [38])
Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of London: \”…the myth is starting to implode. … Serious new research at The Max Planck Institute has indicated that the sun is a far more significant factor…\” (Global Warming as Myth [39])
Henrik Svensmark, Danish National Space Center: \”Our team … has discovered that the relatively few cosmic rays that reach sea-level play a big part in the everyday weather. They help to make low-level clouds, which largely regulate the Earth’s surface temperature. During the 20th Century the influx of cosmic rays decreased and the resulting reduction of cloudiness allowed the world to warm up. … most of the warming during the 20th Century can be explained by a reduction in low cloud cover.\” [40]
Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, Professor Emeritus from University of Ottawa: \”At this stage, two scenarios of potential human impact on climate appear feasible: (1) the standard IPCC model …, and (2) the alternative model that argues for celestial phenomena as the principal climate driver. … Models and empirical observations are both indispensable tools of science, yet when discrepancies arise, observations should carry greater weight than theory. If so, the multitude of empirical observations favours celestial phenomena as the most important driver of terrestrial climate on most time scales, but time will be the final judge.\” (In J. Veizer, \”Celestial climate driver: a perspective from four billion years of the carbon cycle\”, Geoscience Canada, March, 2005. [41], [42])
I did not say that man WAS the cause.
\”Now with that being said, the causes still remain unknown.
Yes, the polar caps on Mars are melting, indication that the sun is changing. Scientists recently came out and said the next solar flare is going to be the biggest one we\’ve seen. \” — me
And again:
“Caused by man or not, why would anyone advocate causing more damage to our planet?” -me
I don\’t disagree with you or those you quoted that man might not be the cause of the climate change we are facing today. All too frequently I read on this site and hear in person people denying the existence of global warming or climate change all together.
For example, an earlier comment:
“The fact that the Insurance Journal refuses to post both sides of the global warming issue proves that they are not only irresponsible to the industry they serve, but they are a left wing biased publication. The latest trends does not support any long term global warming.” — IndAgent
That was the sort of comment I was responding to.
Thank you for your input.
Well, how about this theory…
Global warming is increasing because of the constant puncture wounds in our atmosphere by all the space flights that are being done. The holes from these space flights allow outside gasses & solar radiation into our atmosphere through openings that did not exist many years ago.
It\’s kinda like a child picking a sore, it never heals & is spread, causing bacterial infections on the surrounding skin, until it eventually leads to a serious disease.
Now… to all you folks that have another opinion, feel free to express it as well. Since we are getting quotes from so many other sources, I think it would be interesting to see what your theories are.
About the article though, I have to agree that it would be nice to see some type program in place to confirm the status of everyone prior to receiving aid, so that the illegals are not compensated & the liars are found out before they take the money & run!