Interesting society you folks have. Certain slurs(wetback and the N word for example) are unacceptable. However it seems many others like idiot, racist scum, Judge Mental, you ignorant donkeys behind, and my favorite from a supposed Christian “these anonymous insurance cowards like John and Pedro make it clear that 1) Cousins stil mate with cousins, and 2) Racism still exists in that shallow end of the gene pool.”
“So pull your fingers out of your noses, and no, down stick them down there either, and grab the good book and get some religion before it’s too late….”
I guess if you create god in your own image he hates the same people you do and your slurs are OK.
I am not defending any comments here but, I understand where they stem from.
Dad here doesn’t speak English (read elsewhere) and is not a citizen. Doctors do what they can for a premature birth. Sadly, kid is damaged.
Then dad gets atty, or atty gets dad and sues, as it is the American way. I have to say that I am surprised dad lost the lawsuit. However, he did win health benefits for life for his kid via the CA taxpayers. And the kid already won the citizenship lottery.
And that my friends is where the racism comes from. A more apt word would be resentism.
Dude, the only thing you know about this case is that the plaintiff has a hispanic name, but that’s all you need to voice your opinion and start tossing about slurs. You are an embarrassment to yourself, this board and humanity in general.
Greedy or not, courts decide against families all the time in situations like this. I doubt it has anything to do with race, the family’s attorney was unable to prove negligence on the part of the hospital. Especially given the fact the baby was 4 months premature, that alone was the uphill battle.
the ‘wetness’ of one’s back, not sure what that has to do with this…poor choice of words, John.
limited facts would appear he didn’t have much of a case; either way, hopefully “John” will understand we’re talking about a child here and pray for his recovery.
I wonder if this guy would have filed a $19,000,000 suit had this occured in his native, 3rd world country where medical care sucks? I’d bet these kinds of claims don’t command much in the way of verdict value in Mexico.
If he had won the case, he’d have netted approximately 50% after attorney and expert fees equalling $9,500,000. Even at a miserable rate of return of 2%, he’d be making $190,000 compounded annually. I’d call that greed. The child won’t recover and all the money in the world won’t improve his quality of life.
Unless the father could prove that the child received too much anesthesia, I do not see how he thought he would win such a case.
People have bad reactions to medications all of the time. The doctors would not have known that his child would have a “reaction” unless he had surgery before.
I did not see the “John” post, but race has nothing to do this lawsuit. Many people who sue for breaking a fingernail-that’s greed. This father was suing, I assume, because he thought he was getting justice for a child that will never really be able to have a full life.
People are always telling me that racism is soemthing from their parents’ past. Well these postings by these anonymous insurance cowards like John and Pedro make it clear that 1) Cousins stil mate with cousins, and 2) Racism still exists in that shallow end of the gene pool.
And keep in mind that folks with Spanish surnames were here in America long before the majority of you racist scum. So pull your fingers out of your noses, and no, down stick them down there either, and grab the good book and get some religion before it’s too late….
“Justice”???? This is all about taking a free swing at a big verdict. There apparently wasn’t any negligence involved here although the plaintiff and his attorney gave it the old college try since they had nothing to lose and millions to gain. The defendants no doubt were forced to incur legal costs. The plaintiffs should have to pay those when they lose. That’s why the courts are clogged with ridiculous/frivolous litigation. Plaintiffs get a free shot with no consequence when they lose. It’s pretty pathetic when people have to allege negligence on someone else’s part to make some money……regardless of what it’s earmarked for.
I wonder how long they’d been here? Could the fact that the child was so early be due to the method they came to this country?
Dragging a pregnant woman across the desert or stuffed in the back of a truck should carry a prison sentence for reckless endangerment. Not a ‘congratulations, you lived and get to stay here free’ ticket.
However,don’t citizens have to show a command of the English language? Or, are the materials printed in Spanish for their convenience? Like voter ballots, written driving tests, etc.
I have to think the frustration is rooted in the fact that many Hispanics come here because they know America is liberal with it’s benefits……to a fault unfortunately. I was born in America, have strong work ethic and worked hard for my, employment, and benefits. I dislike the same things I worked for to be GIVEN to a non-citizen just because he/she stumbled across the border. Part of this country’s economic problems are rooted in providing benefits to those who don’t work for them. I support the notion that illegal’s have no rights in this country until and unless they become productive citizens and can speak the English language.
Very sad story. The hospital should learn a lesson here. All calls must be recorded and available, and all surgery consent must be verified in writing, even if given ove rhte phone, a subsequent per our discussion, on xx date at xx time, you did give your consent for xx procedure. LA Times did have more to this story than IJ presnets.
Interesting society you folks have. Certain slurs(wetback and the N word for example) are unacceptable. However it seems many others like idiot, racist scum, Judge Mental, you ignorant donkeys behind, and my favorite from a supposed Christian “these anonymous insurance cowards like John and Pedro make it clear that 1) Cousins stil mate with cousins, and 2) Racism still exists in that shallow end of the gene pool.”
“So pull your fingers out of your noses, and no, down stick them down there either, and grab the good book and get some religion before it’s too late….”
I guess if you create god in your own image he hates the same people you do and your slurs are OK.
I am not defending any comments here but, I understand where they stem from.
Dad here doesn’t speak English (read elsewhere) and is not a citizen. Doctors do what they can for a premature birth. Sadly, kid is damaged.
Then dad gets atty, or atty gets dad and sues, as it is the American way. I have to say that I am surprised dad lost the lawsuit. However, he did win health benefits for life for his kid via the CA taxpayers. And the kid already won the citizenship lottery.
And that my friends is where the racism comes from. A more apt word would be resentism.
Dude, the only thing you know about this case is that the plaintiff has a hispanic name, but that’s all you need to voice your opinion and start tossing about slurs. You are an embarrassment to yourself, this board and humanity in general.
Wow, that is a tad racist without knowing the details of the case.
Greedy or not, courts decide against families all the time in situations like this. I doubt it has anything to do with race, the family’s attorney was unable to prove negligence on the part of the hospital. Especially given the fact the baby was 4 months premature, that alone was the uphill battle.
All rise for Judge Mental!
It’s easy to criticize, but does the nameless poster have an opinion to offer on this case?
the ‘wetness’ of one’s back, not sure what that has to do with this…poor choice of words, John.
limited facts would appear he didn’t have much of a case; either way, hopefully “John” will understand we’re talking about a child here and pray for his recovery.
John – you ignorant donkeys behind!
I wonder if this guy would have filed a $19,000,000 suit had this occured in his native, 3rd world country where medical care sucks? I’d bet these kinds of claims don’t command much in the way of verdict value in Mexico.
If he had won the case, he’d have netted approximately 50% after attorney and expert fees equalling $9,500,000. Even at a miserable rate of return of 2%, he’d be making $190,000 compounded annually. I’d call that greed. The child won’t recover and all the money in the world won’t improve his quality of life.
Unless the father could prove that the child received too much anesthesia, I do not see how he thought he would win such a case.
People have bad reactions to medications all of the time. The doctors would not have known that his child would have a “reaction” unless he had surgery before.
I did not see the “John” post, but race has nothing to do this lawsuit. Many people who sue for breaking a fingernail-that’s greed. This father was suing, I assume, because he thought he was getting justice for a child that will never really be able to have a full life.
People are always telling me that racism is soemthing from their parents’ past. Well these postings by these anonymous insurance cowards like John and Pedro make it clear that 1) Cousins stil mate with cousins, and 2) Racism still exists in that shallow end of the gene pool.
And keep in mind that folks with Spanish surnames were here in America long before the majority of you racist scum. So pull your fingers out of your noses, and no, down stick them down there either, and grab the good book and get some religion before it’s too late….
“Justice”???? This is all about taking a free swing at a big verdict. There apparently wasn’t any negligence involved here although the plaintiff and his attorney gave it the old college try since they had nothing to lose and millions to gain. The defendants no doubt were forced to incur legal costs. The plaintiffs should have to pay those when they lose. That’s why the courts are clogged with ridiculous/frivolous litigation. Plaintiffs get a free shot with no consequence when they lose. It’s pretty pathetic when people have to allege negligence on someone else’s part to make some money……regardless of what it’s earmarked for.
I wonder how long they’d been here? Could the fact that the child was so early be due to the method they came to this country?
Dragging a pregnant woman across the desert or stuffed in the back of a truck should carry a prison sentence for reckless endangerment. Not a ‘congratulations, you lived and get to stay here free’ ticket.
I stand corrected about dad’s citizenship.
However,don’t citizens have to show a command of the English language? Or, are the materials printed in Spanish for their convenience? Like voter ballots, written driving tests, etc.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-hospital-consent14-2010apr14,0,6872183.story
The plaintiff is a Spanish speaking US citizen.
I feel for the little guy. Had a rough start in life, mother dies from breast cancer shortly after giving birth.
Not sensing a whole lot of compassion in here for this child lots of posters having a lot of fun calling his dad a bunch of names.
I have to think the frustration is rooted in the fact that many Hispanics come here because they know America is liberal with it’s benefits……to a fault unfortunately. I was born in America, have strong work ethic and worked hard for my, employment, and benefits. I dislike the same things I worked for to be GIVEN to a non-citizen just because he/she stumbled across the border. Part of this country’s economic problems are rooted in providing benefits to those who don’t work for them. I support the notion that illegal’s have no rights in this country until and unless they become productive citizens and can speak the English language.
Very sad story. The hospital should learn a lesson here. All calls must be recorded and available, and all surgery consent must be verified in writing, even if given ove rhte phone, a subsequent per our discussion, on xx date at xx time, you did give your consent for xx procedure. LA Times did have more to this story than IJ presnets.