Flood Program Must Consider Salmon and Whales

By | August 11, 2010

  • August 11, 2010 at 9:35 am
    Ana says:
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    That attorney Jan Hasselman makes a very good point, ‘No one is asking anybody to pick up and move’. All anyone is asking is no development in these already undeveloped areas. Just leave it alone. There is too much at stake to start mutilating the land to make room for housing developments and strip malls. Build your house somewhere else.

    In addition, these are flood plains! They flood; which means claims are guaranteed to be paid all the time. Why cement the fact that a lot of flood insurance money is going to be poured into these developments. If not for the environment, do it to avoid using up resources that are busy cutting checks to everybody every year resulting from such high high risk.
    However, even after sitting down and weighing all the pros and cons and finding more evidence to sustain restrictions, they’re going to build anyway. They’re going to do what they want to do. There’s too much potential for small groups of already rich and influential people to cash in. Maybe not today or tomorrow but in the end nobody really gives a sh!t about the whales. The developers are going to win. Everyone and everything else is going to lose.

  • August 11, 2010 at 10:44 am
    Big Al says:
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    You have an oppertunity, each election day, to vote out of office those people (Democrate, Republican or whatever) who allow this encroachment and inappropriate land development. Use your vote as your voice to be heard, and let the ineffective or unresponsive supervisors hit the road out of town! We only have one Earth – do all you can to save and preserve it!

  • August 11, 2010 at 12:02 pm
    Ana says:
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    Al, I get what your saying and your intensions are good but the fact of the matter is while lobbying is still legal my vote means squat. It counts to about city level and even then local wealthy business owners still heavily influence decisions made. Who am I going to replace these dirty polictians with? More dirty politicians that’s who. And if the election of the last two presidents is any indicator, most voters have their heads up their a$$. People dont need to be told to vote when they dont even know what they’re voting for. Tell them to educate themselves. THEN vote.

  • August 11, 2010 at 12:59 pm
    Rabbits for Sale says:
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    When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that’s what you’re going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.

  • August 11, 2010 at 1:59 am
    LARRY LOGIC says:
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    If the flood insurance premiums were actuarially sound in all areas, fewer homes would be built in flood plains!!!

  • August 11, 2010 at 2:22 am
    Mike N says:
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    Larry – you are the one that nailed it on the head. Why is the government even involved with flood insurance for NEW developments? Barring this insurance, nobody would build there. The free market already offers a solution to this problem – nobody would get insurance, so nothing would be built in an area in question. But, leave it up to government to, once again, screw up EVERYTHING it touches. This is just more stupidity from the idiots running the beauracracy that is our terrible federal government.

  • August 11, 2010 at 2:28 am
    esquire says:
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    What are we going to do when the last pallid sturgeon dies? How about when the last Southwestern willow flycatcher croaks and God forbid the last sea turtle is laid to rest? Oh yeah…I know, I’ll live my life exactly the way I did today and the special interest nature freaks will find some other creature to put on a pedestal.

  • August 11, 2010 at 3:12 am
    Lexy Logic says:
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    Larry, this may smack of simplicity, but if all of a certain species dies off, say the salmon that the whales eat, how do the whales sustain themselves? As their food source is nonexistent,they too will die off. This sets off a chain reaction and pretty soon, we humans have nothing left to eat. And then what?

  • August 11, 2010 at 4:14 am
    Ana says:
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    Esquire, have you ever heard of the chain effect? The circle of life? I hope fish isn’t anywhere in your diet because without sea turtles, sturgeon, whales, various plant species and a slew of other members we share this planet with that are building blocks of ecosystems you would in no way go on about your life the way you did today. No you wouldn’t. Did you even take biology let alone pass it?

    Actually, I get the point but it’s totally flown right over your head…”god forbid the last sea turtle is laid to rest”…are you serious?? You need to discover the Discovery Channel bro. Read a National Geographic. You might actually obtain the knowledge even every 6 year old knows.

  • August 12, 2010 at 8:08 am
    Vauxhall says:
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    Earth has supported life of one kind or another for several billion years. 90 percent plus of all the species that lived on this planet went extinct before humans came into existance. If it’s time for the blue shelled warbling turtle to vanish then so be it.

  • August 12, 2010 at 8:13 am
    Tinkerbell says:
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    Vauxhall, C’mon, tell us how you really feel, & no sugar-coating!

  • August 12, 2010 at 8:16 am
    Rabbits for Sale says:
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    …will get lonlier and lonlier. Not that we actually eat orca’s, but with might comes the responsibility to use it properly.

    Suggested reading for the day is “The Road” by Cormac McCarthy. The most haunting aspect of this story is that it doesn’t dwell on the cause of the calamity but rather our inability to survive when there is nothing left but one candle of hope, an inner spirit.

    It would be interesting to ask the question about the value of biodiversity to our children’s children. Our actions today have implications for the future; closing our minds to anything else smacks of hubris and ignorance. Once we are on the road there are fewer and fewer choices to take.

  • August 12, 2010 at 10:46 am
    Vauxhall says:
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    I like animals. I have 3 cats at home and I’m a vegetarian. I deplore cruelty to any living creature. But I’m also a realist. Romanticizing the state of the planet and its inhabitants will just give ulcers to those who try to escape reality.

  • August 12, 2010 at 10:59 am
    Tinkerbell says:
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    Cats? Why not a canine?

  • August 12, 2010 at 11:17 am
    Vauxhall says:
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    Three years ago there were 4 cats, a dog, a parrot, a tarantula, and a tank of assorted fish-stix. One cat, the dog, and the parrot died of old age (the parrot was 40+ and the dog was 15)

    My ex took the tarantula and the fish when she enlisted in the army and began a new life.

  • August 12, 2010 at 12:29 pm
    Ralph says:
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    your ex took the TARANTULA? dude, you may be better off…

  • August 13, 2010 at 11:52 am
    Vauxhall says:
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    I guess If I had been keeping salmon and whales in the fish tank it would be more relevant to the article. My point was that I like all animals and all of the pets I have lived with have been rescued from shelters and from people who just didn’t want them any more. (The Tarantula now lives with my ex’s mom.)



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