Low Obamacare Enrollment Figures Add to Pressure on White House

By Richard Cowan and Caroline Humer | November 13, 2013

  • November 13, 2013 at 5:50 pm
    Always Amazed says:
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    Most of which were applying for Medicaid. Can we say total disaster?

    • November 14, 2013 at 1:29 pm
      Whodathunkit? says:
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      The 106,000 did not include Medicaid applicants. That number was over 300,000. So you’ve got 1 person paying for 4.

      So far so good. That’s what we heard the man who fell off the building say as he passed each floor.

  • November 14, 2013 at 10:26 am
    Connie says:
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    Maybe the White House is finding out that trying to make people do something they don’t want to do, like buy a product they don’t want to buy, is similar to herding cats.

  • November 14, 2013 at 1:44 pm
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    DemocratCare is a huge failure. Democrats passed it alone, they own it alone.

  • November 14, 2013 at 1:52 pm
    Jon says:
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    When Clinton is even criticizing the government over the failed promise to keep the plan. Something’s not going well.

    • November 14, 2013 at 3:39 pm
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      Jon- thats simply a chance to distance the clinton name from it…you know killery 2016.

      • November 14, 2013 at 4:03 pm
        Libby says:
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        Why doesn’t she come out against it instead?

        • November 15, 2013 at 10:14 am
          JACK says:
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          They don’t want her on record saying anything that can be used against her. She doesn’t want any accountability just like BENGHAZI.

  • November 14, 2013 at 2:01 pm
    Libby says:
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    It’s not going well. It’s a disaster. I’m disappointed. I was one of those that hoped it would work. I’m sure I’ll be thumbed down for admitting I was wrong since I get thumbed down just for posting.

    • November 14, 2013 at 2:15 pm
      Big Jim says:
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      We still love you Libby. Even when you are wrong.

    • November 14, 2013 at 2:21 pm
      jack says:
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      I gave you a like Libby. Like I said, I have an exectutive at one of the largest health carriers in the nation as a client. He said ” 1. There will be a doctor shortage 2. It’s going to bankrupt the system.” Those are the facts regardless of your feelings. Period!

    • November 14, 2013 at 2:45 pm
      Agent says:
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      Well, Libby, you have 7 likes so far including mine. I would be a little stronger saying it is an unmitigated disaster and is really beyond repair. Some say the Republicans should come in and save the day by offering solutions to an unsolvable problem. The only real answer is to scrap the whole deal and start over in a bi-partisan way which is against the grain of Progressives. Their attitude of our way or the highway didn’t work out so well, did it?

      • November 14, 2013 at 2:53 pm
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        Agent- Let’s take it one step further. This is where the plan was to get the American people to yell at the top of their lungs to “JUST FIX IT”. We all know it can’t be fixed legally without going thru congress. Watch what happens to this, and then watch how he “fixes” other things like amnesty and gun control.

    • November 14, 2013 at 2:48 pm
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      Libby, you have my “like” also. What did you think of Obama’s resoltuion to the problem earlier today? I’m curious.

      • November 14, 2013 at 3:06 pm
        Libby says:
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        I don’t think it was enough. He can’t force the carriers to rescind the cancellations and he only give them a one-year reprieve. Again, I’m disappointed and have no answers at this time. I’d like to hear from someone with a positive spin, but none so far…

        • November 14, 2013 at 3:36 pm
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          positive spin- Men will have coverage for having babies until its repealed?

          • November 14, 2013 at 4:44 pm
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            Not exactly what I had in mind, jack.

          • November 15, 2013 at 10:14 am
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            thats all i got, you got anything?

          • November 15, 2013 at 10:31 am
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            Nope.

          • November 15, 2013 at 10:38 am
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            love you Libby.

    • November 14, 2013 at 2:58 pm
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      Libby,

      We’ve all made mistakes. The challenge is not about right or wrong, its about what is best going forward and the current status of ACA (inability to keep current policy) and technology setbacks are not it. Change, well repeal the law, allow people to keep their policy (good or bad) and build a better ACA with bi-partisan approach.

      ps. you got my Like too.

    • November 14, 2013 at 3:56 pm
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      You got my like!

      • November 14, 2013 at 4:47 pm
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        And mine as well.

    • November 14, 2013 at 5:17 pm
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      Another like from me, as well, Libby. I appreciate you taking responsibility.

      If both parties were wise, they would repeal the law and replace it with the parts that are good for healthcare (pre-existing condition coverage, allow coverage for young adults up to 26 years old to continue on parents coverage but only if no other coverage is available). They also need to include a tort reform element and allow for coverage to be provided across state lines to increase the competition the natural (capitalist) way.

      There should be minimal required coverage (preventive maintenance, prescription, hospitalization) and allowance for individuals to choose/add other coverage options like birth control, etc.

      They also need to scrap the govt option. If a govt option is necessary, than it should be a non-competitive high risk pool like WC or auto state funds.

      • November 15, 2013 at 12:18 pm
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        I wonder if Democrats had realized what a disaster this was going to be and how it would affect their political careers if they would have joined the repeal efforts the Republicans kept trying, particularly in the past year or so. Probably not since most have an IQ between 50-75 and were married to the ideology. Now, many are in a quandry and don’t want to face the angry constituents. They can run, but they can’t hide from this.

    • November 15, 2013 at 5:00 pm
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      I have always liked you, just disagreed with you.

  • November 14, 2013 at 2:14 pm
    NC Resident says:
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    I saw a local news broadcast a couple of weeks ago that said that 42,000 healthe insruance policies were sold through North Carolina’s Marketplace. But the U.S. Government are only stating that 106,000 are sold. Like many government agencies, one agency has not clue what the other has.

    • November 15, 2013 at 11:48 am
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      Healthcare.gov only had 26,000, the rest were in the state exchanges and from what I hear, most were Medicaid. How many of the NC enrollees were Medicaid and how many Obamacare?

      • November 15, 2013 at 12:32 pm
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        All 106,000 were Obamacare enrollees. There were another 300,000+ that were Medicaid.

  • November 14, 2013 at 2:45 pm
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    Ok, I’m not all that savvy on politics and how laws are made. If the dems are mad at what Obama has done, why don’t they change it? It’s not like Obama is going to help their re-election campaign.

    • November 14, 2013 at 4:45 pm
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      Supposedly Dems & Reps are coming out with their fixes on Friday.

      • November 14, 2013 at 8:17 pm
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        Libby, that would be the Republicans that will come with a bill on Friday. Fred Upton (R) Michigan will put it forward. That is why Obama came out today to “try” something versus nothing. The Democrats a risk were going to side with the Upton bill which would have made Obama look even worse (the rats leaving the ship so to speak. The press conference today was nothing but political fodder so he can now blame the insurance companies for not being able to reinstating the old contracts.

      • November 15, 2013 at 8:56 am
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        I read that the senator from LA (woman) is spearheading a bill for the Democrats as well. And the article said it had the support of the party. The Republicans are coming with their proposed bill as well. It should be interesting, but I don’t expect much to happen. As usual.

        • November 15, 2013 at 10:10 am
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          That would be Mary Landrieu who got the Louisiana Purchase for Medicaid expansion to buy her vote for ACA. She is in big trouble in her state and I don’t think this belated effort will help her any since she has been pushing the ACA since it was passed. I have a friend who lives in La and he tells me she is polling very badly over there. Louisiana is basically a red state with Bobby Jindal as governor so I think it will be even redder after the mid terms unless the Republicans put an imbecile up against her.

      • November 15, 2013 at 3:30 pm
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        Libby, your hero came out today and said he would veto the Republican bill should it make it through the Senate. He just wanted this to be his administrative “fix” and order the companies to comply. By the way, 39 Democrats voted for the Republican bill. This doesn’t sound to me like he wants to work with Congress at all like he hasn’t for some time. I hope he does veto it so we can Impeach him by the first of the year.

        • November 15, 2013 at 3:55 pm
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          Leave me alone, Agent.

    • November 15, 2013 at 11:50 am
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      jw, Democrats are running from Obama like he has the plague. I wonder how many will be stupid enough to ask him to campaign for them.

    • November 15, 2013 at 5:01 pm
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      jw, agreed. Jump off a sinking ship!!!!!

      • November 18, 2013 at 8:23 am
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        I hope so. Not only for your sake, but for everyone’s sake. I’m doubtful Reid will realize he needs to help make changes, though. When is he up for re-election? Where is he from, anyway?

  • November 14, 2013 at 4:01 pm
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    So now we have insurance companies that are going to have to scramble to reinstate coverage, sart billing for the renewals, send out i.d. cards and policy info, perhaps reinstate doctors, and other providers that were shut out of new plans but were in old plans that got cancelled. Another technology nightmare. In this scenario, thoguh, it is the private sector who will foot the bill for all of this work. Given that these policies were cancelled, how do the companies even know what to price next year’s coverage?
    It’s good that these people should have an option now to keep their coverage, but it sure is going to be another mess getting that to happen.

    • November 14, 2013 at 8:28 pm
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      TxLady, Obamaspeak today was not a mandate and Obama can’t force the insurance companies to reissue the old contracts. I would be surprised if this really happens. I think the insurance commissioner in California made the insurance companies hold off cancelling the policies but I don’t know of any other state that did that.
      Remember, the insurance companies complied with the law. Second, the insurance companies were counting on these single contracts moving to the exchanges in order to make the premium and loss numbers work. So, if they go back and reinstate or reissue the numbers don’t work and the premiums go up even more because this is adverse. One health insurance association AHIP said this will cause premiums to increase more than planned. Great, what happened to our $2,500.00 savings per person? Oops- lie

      • November 15, 2013 at 10:17 am
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        Sargeant, the President does like to play politics, doesn’t he? He makes this pronouncement knowing the insurance industry cannot comply and then he can blame the resultant crisis on their unwillingness to re-instate policies that were cancelled because of his law mandating they have to cancel.

        I tried to watch some of that sickening news conference. He amazes me how he can say he knew absolutely nothing about the site problems or he wouldn’t have said it would be as easy as shopping on Amazon.com. His signature legislation and he was so disinterested that he never asked about how it was going, got a demo given to him in the months prior to the rollout. He has not fired anyone for screwing it up and basically has a totally incompetent staff starting with Sebelius, Jarrett and others. I guess they may have tried, but he was out on the golf course and they couldn’t reach him. If this is all true, he has been derelict and lazy and we don’t need a chief executive like that.

        • November 15, 2013 at 10:53 am
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          Agent said- “He amazes me how he can say he knew absolutely nothing about the site problems or he wouldn’t have said it would be as easy as shopping on Amazon.com.”

          You are right. This is his “signature” legislation and he supposedly had no one turn on a computer (That will reach all Americans)and walk him through the site to see how well it worked?
          He really is that stupid or he lied again!

          • November 15, 2013 at 4:35 pm
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            Sargeant, I saw an article today that the web people knew three months in advance the site would crash. If Sebelius knew then, she didn’t sound any alarms and joyously announced they would be open for business 10-1. In the great film – Cool Hand Luke, the prison warden confronting Paul Newman’s “Luke” said – What we have here is a failure to communicate! So Luke got 30 days in the hole. This whole mess was a big failure to communicate from the President on down. They wouldn’t know the truth if it hit them in the head. They also thought they could get away with their deception. The chickens are now roosting in the West Wing.

    • November 15, 2013 at 4:28 pm
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      Hey TxLady, not only will the companies have to scramble to resurrect policies that are gone, there will be great expense involved. Therefore, the palms will be out to get greased. Blue Cross will lead the pack since they are big Chicago buddies. Gee, I wonder what they will be allowed to write the coverage for, expiring or double expiring?

      • November 15, 2013 at 5:06 pm
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        I’ll keep you posted… Soon as I see a reversal, I’ll let you know.

        • November 18, 2013 at 8:26 am
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          Totally off topic – Hey FFA, let us know if you’re ok after the storms Sunday.

  • November 14, 2013 at 4:50 pm
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    We still have to see if this is actually going to work. Just because Obama said so doesn’t seem to mean anything these days. Have we really heard from any insurance companies on the “fix”? I think this is just a cloak and dagger scheme for the democrats not to loose any votes in the midterm election. But that’s just me.

    • November 14, 2013 at 5:22 pm
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      I agree, amazed. This is gong to be a nightmare for the carriers IF they want to provide the same coverage. I’m concerned that the premiums for the “reinstated coverage” is going to be so high, that the people are going to complain about that, too. The Dem’s will then say “see, those bad insurance companies were going to stick it to you anyway. We knew our coverage and premiums would be better.”

      If by some chance they do fix it, the Dems will claim victory and credit themselves with getting Obamacare fixed.

      • November 15, 2013 at 8:58 am
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        Not that I expect them to do it, but if they do fix it isn’t that a good thing?

        • November 15, 2013 at 10:10 am
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          Libby- if all the democrats really wanted was a “fix” to “healthcare” they would have worked on healthcare instead of health insurance. It’s about control.PERIOD.

  • November 15, 2013 at 9:59 am
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    Obamacare is an example of what happens when inexperienced bureaucrats and ideologists are put in charge of a massive re-engineering program and don’t even know how to properly test it. Too much of what is in Obamacare was based on lofty assumptions with no basis in fact. The fact that a program of this size was passed by one party in both houses with little, rather no, input of the opposing party, no debate, bribes and exemptions for favored parties, outright lies by the president, is very telling of how this country would be ruled if the liberal wing managed to take it over completely. Can anyone imagine how a country run like this could possibly have survived or even been as successful as this one has been for the last 237 years?

  • November 15, 2013 at 10:58 am
    Sargeant Major says:
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    Well, since Obama has screwed the US healthcare system up so badly, I can’t wait to see what has planned for immigration reform! You suppose Pelosi will stand up and say “you must pass immigration reform to find out what is in it”

    • November 15, 2013 at 12:00 pm
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      I think he is a true lame duck now that the country is in chaos over Healthcare and he has 0 credibility because of all the lies. I look for the poll numbers to continue to decline and Democrats in Congress don’t want to get behind his proposals. The guy should really resign for the good of the country, but he is the Narcissist in Chief so he won’t do that.

  • November 15, 2013 at 3:12 pm
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    Agent. I agree about resignation, except look who would replace him if he resigned. And as an aside to that, notice we’ve heard nothing from the VP during this whole mess. Think that is deliberate?

    • November 15, 2013 at 3:37 pm
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      Yes, the “Big F——- Deal” guy has been hiding out in recent weeks. I am surprised Obama didn’t put him in charge of the website since he did such great work on the budget- remember Obama saying Biden would go over the budget line by line and get unneeded programs slashed and save the taxpayers a lot of money. How has that worked out for us with a $17 Trillion debt and rising with over $6 Trillion in the past 4 years. Biden actually asked a paraplegic to stand and take a bow at a speech one time. His IQ hovers at about 50.

    • November 15, 2013 at 5:08 pm
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      As bad as Biden will be, he has to be better then OfnBama.

      • November 15, 2013 at 6:06 pm
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        So you prefer a Socialist imbecile from Delaware over the Community Organizer Chicago thug Socialist? What a choice! I actually prefer they both go and it goes to the Speaker of the House. As bad as Boehner is, he would be a 100% improvement over both of them. Of course, we would have to get Reid out of the Senate or we would continue to have gridlock and nothing would ever be debated, voted on or sent to the President for either signature or veto. As it is, Obama wants to impose his will on everyone and will not cooperate or work with Congress. No wonder he has made such a mess of things.

  • November 17, 2013 at 4:31 pm
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    Agent said- “So you prefer a Socialist imbecile from Delaware over the Community Organizer Chicago thug Socialist?”

    You are right about that. You could end up with Joe “Buy a Shotgun” Biden. I was amazed that nobody from the press went after Biden after the 9/16/2013 Washington Naval Yard Shootings. Guess what ? The killer used a shotgun. Looked like a short barreled Remington pump to me. I guess he took Joe’s suggestion. hanks Joe, you idiot!

    I have always said that in close quarters a shotgun is as much a deadly weapon as any assault rifle any day of the week.



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