1. If we have this huge drunk driving problem on the road, why over a 2 day time period were only 3 out of 3,500 cited drivers( .000085%) on the roads impaired. According to MADD, 40% of these drivers should have been impaired. Way to go MADD for spreading propaganda and getting bad laws passed.
2. It\’s apparent the engineers doing traffic studies have no clue how to set an accurate speed limit for a stretch of road. If I did 55 on the interstate in my state, I would need to drive on the shoulder to avoid being killed. Set a reasonable limit of 70-75 in rural areas. Oh, why would we do that when the revenue stream from unreasonably low speed limits would dry right up.
I\’m curious about receiving traffic violation tickets in states you don\’t reside in. A few years back, I received a speeding ticket in Minnesota, but when I went to get auto insurance in Nebraska, they had no record of that ticket, only a speeding ticket I had received in Nebraska a few years earlier when I was in college and under my parent\’s insurance.
I\’ve heard that certain states have certain \”deals\” with other states to report traffic violations. Can anyone share some insight on this? Also, what about \”out-of-state\” DUI\’s? Let\’s say I were to be charged with DUI in Missouri, would they automatically report a charge like that to Nebraska???
Most states participate in some level of information sharing when it comes to moving violations. Some share with every other state, some with only select states, and there may also be limits on what they\’ll share (all violations versus just major violation like DUI).
The state\’s DMV website may have some of this information. You could also contact ChoicePoint for specifics. Their MVR Decoder book contains a lot of the info you\’re looking for.
The stats they use, and I have seen the stats being cranked, are quite often from outside a bar at 2:30AM. SADD, MADD, etc. exist to give their execs big $. There was an audit of MADD and yes, everyone had their hand in the cookie jar. PLEASE DO NOT DRIVE IN VA and let the cop catch you with a radar detector. It is $250 added to any traffic violation.
not anymore got a ticket in 1993 for radar detector -state trooper asked me if I wanted a ticket for 68 in a 55 zone I-66 near centreville va-yes the speed limit should be 65 or higher but the lower speed limits generate a huge tax base. Taxation for the lead foot! Anyway being well informed I chose the radar ticket as it was a $100 dollar no point ticket. The trooper laughed and said you be amazed at how many choose the speeding ticket for fear of the old radar ticket. You can apparantly thank a NJ lawyer for fighting the radar law and having it reduced in cost as well as no points.
1. I didn\’t read of any such deaths in the parts of the state where the crackdown ocured
2. State patrols do not patrol areas where convenience stores are located.
All police agencies and branches of state governments that register motor vehicles have access to NLETS (National Law Enforcement Telecommunication System). This is a national system that links all of the states motor vehicle records systems together. Back when I was a highway patrolman in Maryland, I could view past traffic violations for any driver in any state. However, not all states put all violations into the computer. For instance, in Maryland if you get a probation before judgment on a ticket, it does not show up on your record. Furthermore, insurance companies only have access to NLETS records for the past three years. If the violation is more than three years old, it will not appear on the driving record that is available to the insurance companies.
Courtney,
Besides the possibility of what other people have mentioned, it is worth noting that Minnesota has a unique law. If you get a ticket in Minnesota for going 56-65 mph in a 55mph zone, you will receive a ticket and have to pay it, but it will not appear on your record. This only applies in the limited situation of 10 over or less in a 55mph zone. However, some officers will write your ticket for 65 even if you were going faster than that if it was your first offense to keep it off your record. For instance, I was going 70 in a 55, but the officer wrote it for 65 since I had an otherwise clean record. As a result, I paid the ticket but there is no record of it other than the carbon of the check I wrote to pay it.
I think that\’s a pretty cool thing for those cops to do. I have gotten a speeding ticket (or 10- ha ha!) in my lifetime so far (I\’m probably not done yet!)
But, Mary, you said \”if it was your first offense\” they would write the \”special\” ticket. So, technically, couldn\’t I keep getting that same ticket over and over since it would never appear on my record? It doesn\’t mean it\’s my 1st offense, although I guess when asked, most people would fess up (or maybe not). I get your point (and not arguing with it), but that part is kind of funny. Still cool though ;)
The ticket will never appear on your record as long as it meets the criteria of 10 over or less in a 55. It doesn\’t matter whether it\’s your first or fifth ticket. So yes, I suppose you could just keep getting that ticket over and over, but it would get pretty expensive!
When I was mentioning the \”first offense\” thing, I didn\’t mean to imply that there was a set in stone rule. In my case, the officer very well could have written my ticket for 70 and it would be on my record, but he was feeling nice, I guess. On the other hand, even if I already had two tickets, he still could have decided to write it for 65 had he felt like it. Basically the guy just made a nice gesture by saving my from having it on my record due to this quirky little MN law.
Speeding tickets are road taxes being imposed due to unreasonably low speed limits set by \”trained\” engineers.
The cops that write the tickets based on bad speed limits are basically equivalent to the Sheriff of Nottingham collecting taxes to pass through the forest (uh, town).
You were very clear in your post. I guess I wasn\’t so much though. :(
I know what you mean- that cop was very nice to do that for you. I once got a ticket for failure to obey a traffic control device (speed limit sign- ha!)instead of a more expensive (and more points!) speeding ticket. I think it really depends on how \”well\” you\’re driving (save the speeding part- lol!).
Anyway, I enjoyed your post. I was just giving you a hard time. :)
P.S. I will keep in mind this info when driving in Minnesota.
HOW MANY DEATH\’S FROM ROBBERY OF CONVENINCE STORES ETC BECAUSE THE VA STATE POLICE WERE OUT REVENUE COLLECTING?
1. If we have this huge drunk driving problem on the road, why over a 2 day time period were only 3 out of 3,500 cited drivers( .000085%) on the roads impaired. According to MADD, 40% of these drivers should have been impaired. Way to go MADD for spreading propaganda and getting bad laws passed.
2. It\’s apparent the engineers doing traffic studies have no clue how to set an accurate speed limit for a stretch of road. If I did 55 on the interstate in my state, I would need to drive on the shoulder to avoid being killed. Set a reasonable limit of 70-75 in rural areas. Oh, why would we do that when the revenue stream from unreasonably low speed limits would dry right up.
I\’m curious about receiving traffic violation tickets in states you don\’t reside in. A few years back, I received a speeding ticket in Minnesota, but when I went to get auto insurance in Nebraska, they had no record of that ticket, only a speeding ticket I had received in Nebraska a few years earlier when I was in college and under my parent\’s insurance.
I\’ve heard that certain states have certain \”deals\” with other states to report traffic violations. Can anyone share some insight on this? Also, what about \”out-of-state\” DUI\’s? Let\’s say I were to be charged with DUI in Missouri, would they automatically report a charge like that to Nebraska???
Thanks.
Great job to Virginia State Police. All they need to do now is go a little north and pull some dems for drunk driving…
Most states now are reciprocal, and I imagine it will continue to do so, especially with the TSA becoming more involved.
Courtney….
Most states participate in some level of information sharing when it comes to moving violations. Some share with every other state, some with only select states, and there may also be limits on what they\’ll share (all violations versus just major violation like DUI).
The state\’s DMV website may have some of this information. You could also contact ChoicePoint for specifics. Their MVR Decoder book contains a lot of the info you\’re looking for.
The stats they use, and I have seen the stats being cranked, are quite often from outside a bar at 2:30AM. SADD, MADD, etc. exist to give their execs big $. There was an audit of MADD and yes, everyone had their hand in the cookie jar. PLEASE DO NOT DRIVE IN VA and let the cop catch you with a radar detector. It is $250 added to any traffic violation.
not anymore got a ticket in 1993 for radar detector -state trooper asked me if I wanted a ticket for 68 in a 55 zone I-66 near centreville va-yes the speed limit should be 65 or higher but the lower speed limits generate a huge tax base. Taxation for the lead foot! Anyway being well informed I chose the radar ticket as it was a $100 dollar no point ticket. The trooper laughed and said you be amazed at how many choose the speeding ticket for fear of the old radar ticket. You can apparantly thank a NJ lawyer for fighting the radar law and having it reduced in cost as well as no points.
Can\’t believe that you get to choose what ticket you\’d like. If you broke the law, you should get a ticket for each violation.
would someone please shoot unreal. i just know he has never made any mistakes in his life
I\’d say zero.
1. I didn\’t read of any such deaths in the parts of the state where the crackdown ocured
2. State patrols do not patrol areas where convenience stores are located.
Try another argument
All police agencies and branches of state governments that register motor vehicles have access to NLETS (National Law Enforcement Telecommunication System). This is a national system that links all of the states motor vehicle records systems together. Back when I was a highway patrolman in Maryland, I could view past traffic violations for any driver in any state. However, not all states put all violations into the computer. For instance, in Maryland if you get a probation before judgment on a ticket, it does not show up on your record. Furthermore, insurance companies only have access to NLETS records for the past three years. If the violation is more than three years old, it will not appear on the driving record that is available to the insurance companies.
Courtney,
Besides the possibility of what other people have mentioned, it is worth noting that Minnesota has a unique law. If you get a ticket in Minnesota for going 56-65 mph in a 55mph zone, you will receive a ticket and have to pay it, but it will not appear on your record. This only applies in the limited situation of 10 over or less in a 55mph zone. However, some officers will write your ticket for 65 even if you were going faster than that if it was your first offense to keep it off your record. For instance, I was going 70 in a 55, but the officer wrote it for 65 since I had an otherwise clean record. As a result, I paid the ticket but there is no record of it other than the carbon of the check I wrote to pay it.
I think that\’s a pretty cool thing for those cops to do. I have gotten a speeding ticket (or 10- ha ha!) in my lifetime so far (I\’m probably not done yet!)
But, Mary, you said \”if it was your first offense\” they would write the \”special\” ticket. So, technically, couldn\’t I keep getting that same ticket over and over since it would never appear on my record? It doesn\’t mean it\’s my 1st offense, although I guess when asked, most people would fess up (or maybe not). I get your point (and not arguing with it), but that part is kind of funny. Still cool though ;)
Sorry, I don\’t think I was clear.
The ticket will never appear on your record as long as it meets the criteria of 10 over or less in a 55. It doesn\’t matter whether it\’s your first or fifth ticket. So yes, I suppose you could just keep getting that ticket over and over, but it would get pretty expensive!
When I was mentioning the \”first offense\” thing, I didn\’t mean to imply that there was a set in stone rule. In my case, the officer very well could have written my ticket for 70 and it would be on my record, but he was feeling nice, I guess. On the other hand, even if I already had two tickets, he still could have decided to write it for 65 had he felt like it. Basically the guy just made a nice gesture by saving my from having it on my record due to this quirky little MN law.
Speeding tickets are road taxes being imposed due to unreasonably low speed limits set by \”trained\” engineers.
The cops that write the tickets based on bad speed limits are basically equivalent to the Sheriff of Nottingham collecting taxes to pass through the forest (uh, town).
You were very clear in your post. I guess I wasn\’t so much though. :(
I know what you mean- that cop was very nice to do that for you. I once got a ticket for failure to obey a traffic control device (speed limit sign- ha!)instead of a more expensive (and more points!) speeding ticket. I think it really depends on how \”well\” you\’re driving (save the speeding part- lol!).
Anyway, I enjoyed your post. I was just giving you a hard time. :)
P.S. I will keep in mind this info when driving in Minnesota.