And not everyone rides a Harley, for instance I ride a Honda Aero 1100CC big cruiser. Most folks ride other than Harley’s. Honda is #1 in Market share, so let’s not sterotype.
Really, there is no need to berate any two wheeled conveyance. I’ve ridden most all of them over the years and loved them all. It’s natural to take pride in your ride and it is a matter of personal taste.
I don’t think the article was stereo-typing at all. I ride a Harley and I found it quite amusing. Mainly because it is so true. As far as Doug’s comment- again, I ride a Harley, but Honda’s are by far more dependable. I wouldn’t trade my bike for a Honda, but I would never put another bike down.
By now it should be obvious that anytime a group is described by sterotypical or general comments, it doesn’t carry much weight. All Harley riders don’t share anything on a Universal basis except the vehicle they operate. Undoubtably some Harley riders share many attributes, and many don’t.
Couple of more observations…..with 38 years of mc riding behind it….
Except for race bikes…what brand do you see in the back of a pickup most often????? Harley’s
License frame observed on an Aprilia Futura……if you see this bike on a trailer it’s being stolen.
The reason Harley riders want to find and eat at “sit down” eating places is they need more time off the bike after getting beaten up by the bike.
I take exception with the comment that Harley riders “acknowledge” other riders……by and large, even though we are ALL on bikes, Harley riders IGNORE other riders…..that is of course until we pass them….then they get excited….
Now Cal, you are jumping to conclusions. My “old” bike is a 95 Harley and has 95,000 miles that I put on it and I have never been broken down and hauled in a truck. And as far as having to stop to eat, because I am being beaten up by my bike, that is a figment of someone’s imagination also. I can go 250+ miles on a tank of gas, and quite honestly I don’t have to stop between to rest. And I personally acknowledge everyone on two wheels. Everyone I ride with is this way. I’m thinking you aren’t as open minded as most Harley riders. I think everyone on two wheels is a breed above the rest, regardless of bike of choice.
Don’t get me wrong…I personally think ANYONE who rides ANY KIND of bike is someone I could probably relate to……and I do wave at EVERY bike that comes toward me…….of course I’m used to not getting any acknowledgement from 90% of the H riders……..but over the years the arrogance of the “typical” Hardley rider leaves me a bit put off.
The funny part is the riders of any other brand of bike don’t seem to have that arrogance……Brit bike riders can socialize with Italian riders who can socialize with Jap riders who can even solicalize with the Autobahn crusiers……go to the Rock Store….the Hardley riders are off on there own while the rest of the “riders” are mixing together.
Well Nancy, you and yours are a special breed. I have to agree with Cal on the “waving” thing. But true our club is “all brands” and we even include women . We all get along famously, and I will also stop to help a rider no matter what they ride. I pray that we all have a great, safe riding season.
I agree with Rich and Nancy, they are all good bikes. I have ridden a Harley and have no problem with them. I prefer a Honda. However, to correct Doug’s misconception, Honda motorcycles are made in Marysville, OH. My 1998 Aero specifically says “Made in America” on the bike.
Wow, you think thats something? When me and some friends were younger, we saw this chump on a harly weeving through traffic while we were stopped in a long line of vehicles. I told my friend to swing open the door as a joke. To my amaizment, he actually did it, the guy on the MC was going like 30 and he knocked my door off!! Once again the poor ******* lived, but he was mangaled. I yelled at him for busting my door. As it turned out, even though we were drunk at the time and just playing around – HIS insurance paid to have my car fixed because all we did was open the car door while he was illegally weaving through traffic. We got a good laugh out of that, you should have seen the look on the guys face when he saw that door fly open, he knew at that point that he should have just obeyed the rules of the road because……..CAGERS ALWAYS WIN!!!
The fact is MC are dangerous! Last year I was in a hurry coming home from work, and I was tail-gating this guy in a motorcycle and when he stopped quick, I nailed the holy hell out of him. I was so skerd, he went flying like a rag doll – Fortunately for him, he lived – Hopefully he learned his lesson about joy riding when everyone else is in a hurry. Some of you guys are just a joke.
“Comment” is the type of driver we learn to deal with as motorcycle riders. The guy on the motorcycle was probably going the speed limit when he was hit. If anything “comment” should be able to see that he, himself, was totally at fault (and hopefully his insurance company will cancel him for his bad driving habits). His foolishness is an example of why insurance rates are high. The only lesson the motorcycle rider learned is there are very ignorant drivers, of vehicles, who seem to think they own the road. That is a sad story, and “comment” seems so proud.
Almost humerous….on another MC forum we had a question……do you pack when you ride……..Bozo’s like this idiot are all the justification I need to carry my 10mm……
Are you guys truly so dense as to believe that those posts are serious comments. I’ll bet that whoever is writing the comments about hitting mc drivers is simply trying to get a rise out of all of you. Which he clearly is succeeding at
Yes “M,” and Im enjoying every minute of it. They think theyre so cool with their own lingo and their own clubs and leather jackets and what not – Its all a bit much for me. If you like to ride thats cool, but dont act like youre in some juvinile little club or something.
You seem to generalize the people that do not ride a Harley. Not all of us get a bike outside of Harley for speed as you suggest. Some of us buy other Motorcycles because they are more reliable and less expensive for a better quality of bike. I get comments made to me all the time because I don’t ride a Hareley. But as I said to my son, I will ride behind you and when your motorcylce breaks down ( a Harley)you can be the ***** on the back of mine.
“They think theyre so cool
with their own lingo
and their own clubs
and leather jackets and what not –
Its all a bit much for me.”
==============
And what lingo have you so accurately
discerned in this thread, Com?
My asessment of you and your alleged
“biker-baiting” remains.
If you wish to defend your hostile
actions:
either real,
or made up and spread here
to get a rise out of people
whom you disdain,
then I would be delighted
to point out to you
the error of your ways.
Of course,
there is no teacher
if there is no student:
and I suspect you do not wish to be taught by the biker likes of such as me:
therefore, then:
go your way and let “cause-and-effect”
be your teacher:
that way is slower, and more painful:
but it is not my concern.
======================
so whaddaya say?
You want to try to justify your actions?
or shall we all just separate,
anonymously…
And you can just go be who you are,
without critique:
reaping what you sew…
Cagers refers to things like you, who should be in cages, similar to baboons, monkeys, criminals etc
Anyone who rides a motorcycle doesn’t generally need much explanation, they’ve had to contend with the likes of you before, and hopefully painlessly.
While I “kmow” that you are just pulling our leg, it does sound as though there is some pent up frustration in you……been sitting in your cage to many times on the freeway and saw one of us lane split on you and be gone????????But you don’t have the intestinal fortitude to ride a motorcycle yourself……do you?
Comment, were you dropped on your head as a baby? It sounds like you are proud that you nailed the person riding a motorcycle? You also made it sound like you intentionally rear ended the biker. You just admitted to attempted manslaughter you idiot.
I would just like to appologize for my rude comments to “Comment.”
================================
I know some of us cyclers can be jerks, and I may have spoken too soon.
================================
I am very sorry. Sometimes I really dont know what Im talking about.
Ok, hoenstly, this whole discussion has been hard for me. You see, I was in a serious MC accident almost 20 years ago. And since then, I have been too scaired to get back on that bike. The wind in my hair, that loud engine, Im so afraid something will happen to me again, and I will crash – So I havnt ridden in 20 years – It just scairs me too much.
Sure I pack a 9mm and a 380. You never know when someone might \”Bike Jack\” your bike. Otherwise most times I kick the mirrors or dent the fenders when idiots in cars do stupid things which affect my safety. Here in Texas where bikers are numerous in the DFW area, people have no respect for each other on the road much less a biker.
No, I truly believe they did it. I\’ve over heard comments at my last job where people hate that cycles pass them in between the lanes and they wish they could wing open the door. To that I state, \”why would you want to play traffic queen and thus allow yourself to be sued, if proven, that it was not in fact an accident but rather a predetermined calculated task?\”
One day these people will have friends or coworkers testify to the fact that they said it…in jest or not.
Anyhow, California allows passing between cars and although I don\’t completely agree with it because people in cars don\’t understand the law, it is an allowed practice.
If Harley was all that Americans buy, then you wouldn\’t be a so-called elite group, you would be a third world country forced to drive and live according to your countries economy. Be glad that everyone \”does not ride\” what you ride.
Attacking ones means of mode attacks their financial abilities. I\’ve riden and owned Gold Wings, Katanas, a V-Max, and numerous dirt bikes…all of which gave me dependable service. Thats not to say that a Harley would not give the same, but HArley does limit ones purchase to a basic cruiser…nothing more.
You were tailgating a motorcycle…what an idiot. Do you tailgate semi\’s too?
In a hurry? And you don\’t think he needed to be somewhere? You don\’t think that waS all he could afford? Why would you risk a death caused by yourself since you sound like you hate motorcycles? Ever think he had a family? Ever think about how you would feel if you killed someone? Join the military and kill someone for your country…it still sucks because even though they are the enemy, human nature does and should have compassion for those who are human and to further that…human bikers.
What do you think truckers think of people like your self? Now you are their enemy which they would like to crush.
Look, I just bought a Harley Sporster 1200 Custom and you know what the first thing some idiot said? \”Oh, you bought a p**** bike.\” Interesting since he used to own a Yamaha. I have noticed that a few \”big bike\” Harley owners are so wrapped up in their masculine persona that they won\’t signal a lowly Sporster rider. But if they ever came off a light with me they\’d be looking down my pipes, not visa-versa. Sporster started out as a racing bike according to Willie Davidson and it still proudly carries that tradition for guys like me who want to feel that thrill of all out performance.
Does it matter about brand as long as we’re on two wheels.? Respecting another’s choice is more important than a childish nine is better than yours attitude.
Subject: RE: RE: Harley vs Honda, etal
Posted On: May 26, 2009, 7:44 pm CDT
Posted By: Rick
Comment:
Does it matter about brand as long as we’re on two wheels.? Respecting another’s choice is more important than a childish nine is better than yours attitude.
==============
Dude, this sleeping dog of a thread was almost dead, until you revived it, 2.5 years later. whuzzup wit’ dat?
And not everyone rides a Harley, for instance I ride a Honda Aero 1100CC big cruiser. Most folks ride other than Harley’s. Honda is #1 in Market share, so let’s not sterotype.
Really, there is no need to berate any two wheeled conveyance. I’ve ridden most all of them over the years and loved them all. It’s natural to take pride in your ride and it is a matter of personal taste.
Honda is foreign made garbage.
I don’t think the article was stereo-typing at all. I ride a Harley and I found it quite amusing. Mainly because it is so true. As far as Doug’s comment- again, I ride a Harley, but Honda’s are by far more dependable. I wouldn’t trade my bike for a Honda, but I would never put another bike down.
By now it should be obvious that anytime a group is described by sterotypical or general comments, it doesn’t carry much weight. All Harley riders don’t share anything on a Universal basis except the vehicle they operate. Undoubtably some Harley riders share many attributes, and many don’t.
Couple of more observations…..with 38 years of mc riding behind it….
Except for race bikes…what brand do you see in the back of a pickup most often????? Harley’s
License frame observed on an Aprilia Futura……if you see this bike on a trailer it’s being stolen.
The reason Harley riders want to find and eat at “sit down” eating places is they need more time off the bike after getting beaten up by the bike.
I take exception with the comment that Harley riders “acknowledge” other riders……by and large, even though we are ALL on bikes, Harley riders IGNORE other riders…..that is of course until we pass them….then they get excited….
Now Cal, you are jumping to conclusions. My “old” bike is a 95 Harley and has 95,000 miles that I put on it and I have never been broken down and hauled in a truck. And as far as having to stop to eat, because I am being beaten up by my bike, that is a figment of someone’s imagination also. I can go 250+ miles on a tank of gas, and quite honestly I don’t have to stop between to rest. And I personally acknowledge everyone on two wheels. Everyone I ride with is this way. I’m thinking you aren’t as open minded as most Harley riders. I think everyone on two wheels is a breed above the rest, regardless of bike of choice.
Nancy,
Don’t get me wrong…I personally think ANYONE who rides ANY KIND of bike is someone I could probably relate to……and I do wave at EVERY bike that comes toward me…….of course I’m used to not getting any acknowledgement from 90% of the H riders……..but over the years the arrogance of the “typical” Hardley rider leaves me a bit put off.
The funny part is the riders of any other brand of bike don’t seem to have that arrogance……Brit bike riders can socialize with Italian riders who can socialize with Jap riders who can even solicalize with the Autobahn crusiers……go to the Rock Store….the Hardley riders are off on there own while the rest of the “riders” are mixing together.
Cal
Well Nancy, you and yours are a special breed. I have to agree with Cal on the “waving” thing. But true our club is “all brands” and we even include women . We all get along famously, and I will also stop to help a rider no matter what they ride. I pray that we all have a great, safe riding season.
TA TA
I dont waive to any of you losers, I drive a CAR.
And you cagers scare ANYONE who rides ANYKIND of bike!
We drive cars, too. If we have to explain riding a MC, you wouldn’t understand!
I hate to be a snob:
but– you know–:
truth is:
My bike’s better
than your bike:
nyaaa nyaaa nyaaa….
============
(But I’ll wave atcha anyway)
“:
I agree with Rich and Nancy, they are all good bikes. I have ridden a Harley and have no problem with them. I prefer a Honda. However, to correct Doug’s misconception, Honda motorcycles are made in Marysville, OH. My 1998 Aero specifically says “Made in America” on the bike.
Wow, you think thats something? When me and some friends were younger, we saw this chump on a harly weeving through traffic while we were stopped in a long line of vehicles. I told my friend to swing open the door as a joke. To my amaizment, he actually did it, the guy on the MC was going like 30 and he knocked my door off!! Once again the poor ******* lived, but he was mangaled. I yelled at him for busting my door. As it turned out, even though we were drunk at the time and just playing around – HIS insurance paid to have my car fixed because all we did was open the car door while he was illegally weaving through traffic. We got a good laugh out of that, you should have seen the look on the guys face when he saw that door fly open, he knew at that point that he should have just obeyed the rules of the road because……..CAGERS ALWAYS WIN!!!
The fact is MC are dangerous! Last year I was in a hurry coming home from work, and I was tail-gating this guy in a motorcycle and when he stopped quick, I nailed the holy hell out of him. I was so skerd, he went flying like a rag doll – Fortunately for him, he lived – Hopefully he learned his lesson about joy riding when everyone else is in a hurry. Some of you guys are just a joke.
And some folks are in need of a rectalcraniectomy
And cagers sometimes wonder why they end up missing mirrors…………
“Comment” is the type of driver we learn to deal with as motorcycle riders. The guy on the motorcycle was probably going the speed limit when he was hit. If anything “comment” should be able to see that he, himself, was totally at fault (and hopefully his insurance company will cancel him for his bad driving habits). His foolishness is an example of why insurance rates are high. The only lesson the motorcycle rider learned is there are very ignorant drivers, of vehicles, who seem to think they own the road. That is a sad story, and “comment” seems so proud.
….I was in a hurry ….and I was tail-gating …..he stopped quick, I nailed the holy hell out of him.
I was .. skerd, he went flying …… Hopefully he learned his lesson …….
Some of you guys are just a joke.
==================================
Actually, any further comment would only
detract from what is profoundly apparent
in Comment’s self-indictment.
“Is it better to be a joke;
or profoundly stupid:
aye, there’s the question..”
Almost humerous….on another MC forum we had a question……do you pack when you ride……..Bozo’s like this idiot are all the justification I need to carry my 10mm……
you know what Cal, I actually agree with you there. We would have had it coming in that case.
Looks like “the biker” thread
got more response than most
insurance – related subjects.
A cross section of humanity is noted.
The anonymity of this forum
allows people to express themselves without fear
of local response.
Cowards in cars, uncaring of others:
identifying “greater mass”
as a right to hurt others:
pontificating without fear..
=================
What goes around comes around:
obviously the boy was not raised right,
and will get even until he is done:
or until HE is done:
as the case may be.
This is not true because I say it is:
It is true, because that is the way
it works.
Lets start with “cagers” ……..
Shall I continue? Or is that just part of your eveyday jargon…o’long beared motorcycle pontificator?
Are you guys truly so dense as to believe that those posts are serious comments. I’ll bet that whoever is writing the comments about hitting mc drivers is simply trying to get a rise out of all of you. Which he clearly is succeeding at
Yes “M,” and Im enjoying every minute of it. They think theyre so cool with their own lingo and their own clubs and leather jackets and what not – Its all a bit much for me. If you like to ride thats cool, but dont act like youre in some juvinile little club or something.
You seem to generalize the people that do not ride a Harley. Not all of us get a bike outside of Harley for speed as you suggest. Some of us buy other Motorcycles because they are more reliable and less expensive for a better quality of bike. I get comments made to me all the time because I don’t ride a Hareley. But as I said to my son, I will ride behind you and when your motorcylce breaks down ( a Harley)you can be the ***** on the back of mine.
“They think theyre so cool
with their own lingo
and their own clubs
and leather jackets and what not –
Its all a bit much for me.”
==============
And what lingo have you so accurately
discerned in this thread, Com?
My asessment of you and your alleged
“biker-baiting” remains.
If you wish to defend your hostile
actions:
either real,
or made up and spread here
to get a rise out of people
whom you disdain,
then I would be delighted
to point out to you
the error of your ways.
Of course,
there is no teacher
if there is no student:
and I suspect you do not wish to be taught by the biker likes of such as me:
therefore, then:
go your way and let “cause-and-effect”
be your teacher:
that way is slower, and more painful:
but it is not my concern.
======================
so whaddaya say?
You want to try to justify your actions?
or shall we all just separate,
anonymously…
And you can just go be who you are,
without critique:
reaping what you sew…
You can ride with me anytime babe!!
Cagers refers to things like you, who should be in cages, similar to baboons, monkeys, criminals etc
Anyone who rides a motorcycle doesn’t generally need much explanation, they’ve had to contend with the likes of you before, and hopefully painlessly.
While I “kmow” that you are just pulling our leg, it does sound as though there is some pent up frustration in you……been sitting in your cage to many times on the freeway and saw one of us lane split on you and be gone????????But you don’t have the intestinal fortitude to ride a motorcycle yourself……do you?
Cal
Note that I’m not stating generalities,
as he/she/it did: (all cagers are not
so characterized herein..)
I’m identifying those posts of which he/she/it
is proud,
as originating in personal
cowardice, frustration, and hostility.
These qualities
are unlikely to manifest
in anything other than a situation
where he can have
no risk whatsoever.
Risk:
the uncertainty of a future outcome.
=============
let’s see:
“If I hit this Motorcycle from the rear,
what’s the chance of me being hurt.”
“Zero:
I’ll take that risk..”
BAM:
the guy goes flying and Comment
brags about it:
========================
“If I open the door
on the lane-splitting motorcyclist,
what will happen to me..”
“Nothing:
I’ll take that risk..”
BAM:
the guy goes to the hospital.
===========
Comment is either
1. a liar
or
2. a coward
or
3. both.
==================
I’ll take #3
as the most likely possibility.
==================
The good thing is,
that although it may be frustrating
to note that “Comment”
is again “untouchable”
in this venue:
such behavior and attitudes
pervade and influence
a persons life “in toto”:
and “Comment’s” life
can be characterized
as that of a weasel.
Furtive, hostile, sneaky,
chip-on-shoulder, sycophant, and etc..
LOSER,
comes to mind.
People like you need to have MORON painted on their car in big bold letters so those of us who ride can avoid idiots like you.
Comment, were you dropped on your head as a baby? It sounds like you are proud that you nailed the person riding a motorcycle? You also made it sound like you intentionally rear ended the biker. You just admitted to attempted manslaughter you idiot.
I would just like to appologize for my rude comments to “Comment.”
================================
I know some of us cyclers can be jerks, and I may have spoken too soon.
================================
I am very sorry. Sometimes I really dont know what Im talking about.
Ok, hoenstly, this whole discussion has been hard for me. You see, I was in a serious MC accident almost 20 years ago. And since then, I have been too scaired to get back on that bike. The wind in my hair, that loud engine, Im so afraid something will happen to me again, and I will crash – So I havnt ridden in 20 years – It just scairs me too much.
THIS WAS NOTE POSTED BY ME!
OBVIOUSLY HONESTLY IS NOT SOMETHING “COMMENT” UNDERSTANDS.
ONCE AGAIN, ID JUST LIKE EVERYONE TO KNOW, THAT WAS A NOTE POSTED BY ME.
Emulating others
takes more than being able
to type their name.
Farewell.
What a fu*k!
And who died and made you traffic queen?
The next time you exceed the speed limit, I hope the hand of God drops a brick wall in front of your a*s…
After all, you were breaking the law too.
People who ride Harleys really know nothing about motorcycles but do know more about yuppie fashion.
It\’s all about the ride…a Vespa or Harley still gets you there with wind in your hair and bugs in your teeth.
Sure I pack a 9mm and a 380. You never know when someone might \”Bike Jack\” your bike. Otherwise most times I kick the mirrors or dent the fenders when idiots in cars do stupid things which affect my safety. Here in Texas where bikers are numerous in the DFW area, people have no respect for each other on the road much less a biker.
No, I truly believe they did it. I\’ve over heard comments at my last job where people hate that cycles pass them in between the lanes and they wish they could wing open the door. To that I state, \”why would you want to play traffic queen and thus allow yourself to be sued, if proven, that it was not in fact an accident but rather a predetermined calculated task?\”
One day these people will have friends or coworkers testify to the fact that they said it…in jest or not.
Anyhow, California allows passing between cars and although I don\’t completely agree with it because people in cars don\’t understand the law, it is an allowed practice.
Sorry about your …
If Harley was all that Americans buy, then you wouldn\’t be a so-called elite group, you would be a third world country forced to drive and live according to your countries economy. Be glad that everyone \”does not ride\” what you ride.
Besides, its about the ride and not the bike.
Exactly well said and spoken.
Attacking ones means of mode attacks their financial abilities. I\’ve riden and owned Gold Wings, Katanas, a V-Max, and numerous dirt bikes…all of which gave me dependable service. Thats not to say that a Harley would not give the same, but HArley does limit ones purchase to a basic cruiser…nothing more.
Now isn\’t your mommy proud that you got off your training wheel bike and drive a Geo?
Better is only an opinion and nothing more. Enjoy \”your\” ride.
You were tailgating a motorcycle…what an idiot. Do you tailgate semi\’s too?
In a hurry? And you don\’t think he needed to be somewhere? You don\’t think that waS all he could afford? Why would you risk a death caused by yourself since you sound like you hate motorcycles? Ever think he had a family? Ever think about how you would feel if you killed someone? Join the military and kill someone for your country…it still sucks because even though they are the enemy, human nature does and should have compassion for those who are human and to further that…human bikers.
What do you think truckers think of people like your self? Now you are their enemy which they would like to crush.
Look, I just bought a Harley Sporster 1200 Custom and you know what the first thing some idiot said? \”Oh, you bought a p**** bike.\” Interesting since he used to own a Yamaha. I have noticed that a few \”big bike\” Harley owners are so wrapped up in their masculine persona that they won\’t signal a lowly Sporster rider. But if they ever came off a light with me they\’d be looking down my pipes, not visa-versa. Sporster started out as a racing bike according to Willie Davidson and it still proudly carries that tradition for guys like me who want to feel that thrill of all out performance.
Does it matter about brand as long as we’re on two wheels.? Respecting another’s choice is more important than a childish nine is better than yours attitude.
Subject: RE: RE: Harley vs Honda, etal
Posted On: May 26, 2009, 7:44 pm CDT
Posted By: Rick
Comment:
Does it matter about brand as long as we’re on two wheels.? Respecting another’s choice is more important than a childish nine is better than yours attitude.
==============
Dude, this sleeping dog of a thread was almost dead, until you revived it, 2.5 years later. whuzzup wit’ dat?