This was interesting reading. I have not seen employer loyalty to employees for at least 15 years, perhaps longer. The “good old days” are long gone. All (lawyer approved) employment offers clearly state that the relationship is “at will” and that the company can separate an employee at any time for no reason. This attitude seems to be universal, so if you see a better or more secure job, take it before you get laid off or your salary is cut (or both).
You are being generous! 15 years?!?!?! It has been going on for longer than that. Bleed a person dry, then when they voice concerns, label them “difficult to work with” and fire them.
When that better opportunity comes along, you won’t see me shedding a tear for my old employer! Or maybe you will, but they will be tears of joy!
Are you kidding me. If you don’t like where you work or who you work for go somewhere else. No one is forcing you to work there. If you can do better leave. Truth is most fellow workers I know that complain and whine all the time are not very good workers and know they can not do better elsewhere.
I think you said the same thing that Realist and I both said. If you don’t like where you work go somewhere else. Many of the very best people stay with a not so fine employer because they feel sorry for the company or their fellow employees. The very best that were taken advantage of did leave. There is now a movement to make us feel sorry for less than stellar employers. We are simply saying “don’t fall for it, when they are done with you they will ditch you”. Those of us who are very good usually are under paid, so we leave. Sometimes we stay by habit and get caught off guard when the company decides to try using a cheaper employee in our place. We are simply saying, and you seem to agree that “if you can do better, leave”. Glad that you agree with us, but from a slightly different perspective about the qualifications we who leave. Those of us who are very good appreciate your support.
This has nothing to do with liking or disliking where you work, the discussion is about the merits of loyalty. You can hate your job and still be loyal to your employer (my coworkers) or you can like what you do and still be an opportunist.
Loyalty has to be a two-way street or it doesn’t work. But I don’t think loyalty is completely dead, nor do I agree with those who lament the diminution of loyalty in the business world today.
A certain level of loyalty is just good business, since retaining good employees is critical. Too much loyalty, though, is economically inefficient, resulting in underutilized talent and workers either being overpaid or underpaid. Unfortunately this system rewards the highly mobile employees at the expense of the less mobile; but each employee has to make those choices him/herself.
This was interesting reading. I have not seen employer loyalty to employees for at least 15 years, perhaps longer. The “good old days” are long gone. All (lawyer approved) employment offers clearly state that the relationship is “at will” and that the company can separate an employee at any time for no reason. This attitude seems to be universal, so if you see a better or more secure job, take it before you get laid off or your salary is cut (or both).
You are being generous! 15 years?!?!?! It has been going on for longer than that. Bleed a person dry, then when they voice concerns, label them “difficult to work with” and fire them.
When that better opportunity comes along, you won’t see me shedding a tear for my old employer! Or maybe you will, but they will be tears of joy!
Are you kidding me. If you don’t like where you work or who you work for go somewhere else. No one is forcing you to work there. If you can do better leave. Truth is most fellow workers I know that complain and whine all the time are not very good workers and know they can not do better elsewhere.
I think you said the same thing that Realist and I both said. If you don’t like where you work go somewhere else. Many of the very best people stay with a not so fine employer because they feel sorry for the company or their fellow employees. The very best that were taken advantage of did leave. There is now a movement to make us feel sorry for less than stellar employers. We are simply saying “don’t fall for it, when they are done with you they will ditch you”. Those of us who are very good usually are under paid, so we leave. Sometimes we stay by habit and get caught off guard when the company decides to try using a cheaper employee in our place. We are simply saying, and you seem to agree that “if you can do better, leave”. Glad that you agree with us, but from a slightly different perspective about the qualifications we who leave. Those of us who are very good appreciate your support.
This has nothing to do with liking or disliking where you work, the discussion is about the merits of loyalty. You can hate your job and still be loyal to your employer (my coworkers) or you can like what you do and still be an opportunist.
Loyalty has to be a two-way street or it doesn’t work. But I don’t think loyalty is completely dead, nor do I agree with those who lament the diminution of loyalty in the business world today.
A certain level of loyalty is just good business, since retaining good employees is critical. Too much loyalty, though, is economically inefficient, resulting in underutilized talent and workers either being overpaid or underpaid. Unfortunately this system rewards the highly mobile employees at the expense of the less mobile; but each employee has to make those choices him/herself.
It took a “youngin” to get it right!