Wow is right. You obviously didn’t read the article and don’t know anything about the facts, or you wouldn’t be so impressed with your puerile reference to blowing. Are you 13? Or just a manager at Wal-Mart?
Wow is right! Ralphie, I was thinking the same thing. Great title (albeit somewhat misleading), otherwise I never would have read this boring article. I think Interesting needs to take himself/herself a little less seriously.
Yes, I worked at Sam’s club during the period referenced in the article. I was paid $2.00 less per hour than male coworkers, even though I was experienced and they were not.
This practice is not unique to Walmart though – the insurance industry has made it a practice to always pay female workers less than their male coworkers. Yet no one has filed a newsmaking class action lawsuit against insurance companies.
Just one of the “perks” of being female.
unfortunately, the only ones who will make money on this are the lawyers. “Every penny you deserve” will literally be just pennies by the time this is over.
and to Interesting and Boring–Lighten up. Try and laugh today; it’ll make you feel better.
Maybe in the corporate world there is an inequality, but when you factor in all the free drinks, meals women get… the speeding tickets they get out of… the $$$ spent while dating these women, that inequality shrinks quite a bit.
You’re correct-women in the insurance have been paid less. I know in my field job for an insurance company, the only discrimination which took place, occurred when the women field staff were not required to leave the office early or return late….because the company didn’t want a woman on the road late at night. Hummm, same pay for the same work? I don’t think so !
I’ve seen too many examples of reverse discrimination in the insurance industry. Example: women are often promoted regardless of their inability to obtain field experience usually required of a claims executive. They don’t want to crawl around in burned out buildings or under a wrecked car. They don’t want to go into dangerous neighborhoods to conduct investigations. BUT……they want the same opportunities regardless. Company’s cave in and promote “paper” claims professionals who don’t deserve it.
I’ve always said if you’re unhappy with your job…….quit and find a better one assuming you have the talent, skills, and motivation to find one. No one is holding a gun to your heads and making you stay. It’s a damn site better than trying to make the world kneel at the female altar.
Walmart has many challenges as an employer of 1.4 million employees. While there may be people that have reason to bring notice of inequality, it is probably unfair to create any class that purports to represent all of its Walmart constituents.
Walmart is also challenged by the fact they are a retailer and a low-cost retailer. The turnover is exceptionally high with corresponding career aspirations that are pretty low.
Further Walmart is a very competent and organized corporation that has programs to try to retain and promote women and minorities; but in many cases, there just aren’t enough that are interested in being promoted.
This is worsened by the fact that most anti-Walmart statistics are blatantly biased and misleading to a casual reader.
This is a suit that Walmart will not be able to win (in court or public opinion) , but it is very unlikely that Walmart is systemically discriminating against any group of people.
Wallyworld needs to be knocked down a few notches. I’m sure Wallyworld corporate “…is a very competent and organized corporation…”, but they are much too pushy. Remember the Rubbermaid stuff a few years ago?
Free drinks? Meals? Really?
Wake up and face reality. Women always
comes up on the short side of things.
It is the only way a men have to be
superior. Women are the life givers,
the nuturers, the voice of reason,
the comforters, advisors, the steel
to do the hard things in life in the
face of pain heartache.
We work sick. We take care of our children
all night if they are sick–then work all
day. We do what we have to in order to
provide the things our loved ones need.
Free meals and drinks…even when dating
these are not free. Men have their expectations that come with the dinner and
drinks and then it is the battle of wills.
How can you even compare a few drinks and
a couple of meals to the differences made in men’s salaries–that is just stupid.
I’m biting my tounge here. So many things wrong with your statements. Everything you said women are, men are too. Women don’t have a monopoly on being “nuturers, the voice of reason, the comforters, advisors”. I can’t tell you how many times I have worked sick. Men have heartache just as women do. As for being “Life givers”, last time I checked, it takes two genders to procreate. And as for “Men have their expectations that come with the dinner and
drinks and then it is the battle of wills”, if a man has any expectition after he pays for everthing, he is label a “sexist, womanizer” ect ect. Women don’t HAVE to sleep with them. When a man and woman get married, who is expected to pay the majority of the bills when both are working? Most of the time, its the man.
Heck, I have a female family member that owns a business and she makes a HECK of a lot more then many men in her industry, including myself and her own husband (who is just as experianced as she is).
I am interested in someone taking a poll. “How many days/hours does each gender put in, in a perticular industry”
If you try and give me that “Well women have to call out of work more because they have to take care of the kids”, I don’t buy it. There is nothing preventing each parent from taking equal amount of time off when the children are sick. First time, Mom takes off, second, Dad takes off. Rinse and repeat.
My son was shot in the face by a kid with a bb gun down at the playground a few years ago. I had to leave work early as the paramedics had called me to tell me that my son had “taken a shot to the head” and they were taking him to the ER. The ER docs were unable to dig out the bb and we had to see a specialist the next day. I went in to work and my husband took my son to the doc. I also made up the hour I had to take off early the day of the incident. From what I have experienced both the mom and the dad take off time equally when absolutely necessary. And the moms are more apt to “make up” the time.
Companies value employees (male or female)that add value/insight to the organization and that they can’t easily replace. Differentiate yourself through producing results, not by being a member of a “restricted class”. Once you get a reputation as a “complainer” / “taker” your career is doomed. I have done quite well in my male-dominated company by focusing on my work and not engaging in this kind of posturing.
Dang!!! I thought I was being sexist, but WOW, your comments blew me (no pun intended) away! You are probably one of those women who would comment if I didn’t hold the door open for you, but scream women’s lib if I did.
well, it sounds like we have folks on both sides of the fence. question: why did it take so long for this to come forward if in fact it’s true? if it’s from 2001, where does the timeline end for this matter? could it possibly be that some of those folks that are suing, currently don’t have a job and using this as an excuse to get money, which in reality, they will not get much if class-action. i know that not all folks are probably in this class, but some could be. we seem to only picture just the regular person in this picture. if you noticed newer ads by walmart, they are trying to save even more money. so, if this lawsuit goes up, those low-cost prices will no longer be. so who is going to win? nobody!
You are talking about a minimum wage jobs here. What did someone make 7 cents more an hour than someone else? Get out of your victim group and get back to work!
great choice of words for the headline!
Wow is right. You obviously didn’t read the article and don’t know anything about the facts, or you wouldn’t be so impressed with your puerile reference to blowing. Are you 13? Or just a manager at Wal-Mart?
Wow is right! Ralphie, I was thinking the same thing. Great title (albeit somewhat misleading), otherwise I never would have read this boring article. I think Interesting needs to take himself/herself a little less seriously.
Yes, I worked at Sam’s club during the period referenced in the article. I was paid $2.00 less per hour than male coworkers, even though I was experienced and they were not.
This practice is not unique to Walmart though – the insurance industry has made it a practice to always pay female workers less than their male coworkers. Yet no one has filed a newsmaking class action lawsuit against insurance companies.
Just one of the “perks” of being female.
You are absolutely right and I hope you get every penny you deserve, despite the immature and dismissive comments here.
unfortunately, the only ones who will make money on this are the lawyers. “Every penny you deserve” will literally be just pennies by the time this is over.
and to Interesting and Boring–Lighten up. Try and laugh today; it’ll make you feel better.
Maybe in the corporate world there is an inequality, but when you factor in all the free drinks, meals women get… the speeding tickets they get out of… the $$$ spent while dating these women, that inequality shrinks quite a bit.
spoken like a true “man”.
You’re correct-women in the insurance have been paid less. I know in my field job for an insurance company, the only discrimination which took place, occurred when the women field staff were not required to leave the office early or return late….because the company didn’t want a woman on the road late at night. Hummm, same pay for the same work? I don’t think so !
I’ve seen too many examples of reverse discrimination in the insurance industry. Example: women are often promoted regardless of their inability to obtain field experience usually required of a claims executive. They don’t want to crawl around in burned out buildings or under a wrecked car. They don’t want to go into dangerous neighborhoods to conduct investigations. BUT……they want the same opportunities regardless. Company’s cave in and promote “paper” claims professionals who don’t deserve it.
I’ve always said if you’re unhappy with your job…….quit and find a better one assuming you have the talent, skills, and motivation to find one. No one is holding a gun to your heads and making you stay. It’s a damn site better than trying to make the world kneel at the female altar.
Walmart has many challenges as an employer of 1.4 million employees. While there may be people that have reason to bring notice of inequality, it is probably unfair to create any class that purports to represent all of its Walmart constituents.
Walmart is also challenged by the fact they are a retailer and a low-cost retailer. The turnover is exceptionally high with corresponding career aspirations that are pretty low.
Further Walmart is a very competent and organized corporation that has programs to try to retain and promote women and minorities; but in many cases, there just aren’t enough that are interested in being promoted.
This is worsened by the fact that most anti-Walmart statistics are blatantly biased and misleading to a casual reader.
This is a suit that Walmart will not be able to win (in court or public opinion) , but it is very unlikely that Walmart is systemically discriminating against any group of people.
Wallyworld needs to be knocked down a few notches. I’m sure Wallyworld corporate “…is a very competent and organized corporation…”, but they are much too pushy. Remember the Rubbermaid stuff a few years ago?
Mario,
Free drinks? Meals? Really?
Wake up and face reality. Women always
comes up on the short side of things.
It is the only way a men have to be
superior. Women are the life givers,
the nuturers, the voice of reason,
the comforters, advisors, the steel
to do the hard things in life in the
face of pain heartache.
We work sick. We take care of our children
all night if they are sick–then work all
day. We do what we have to in order to
provide the things our loved ones need.
Free meals and drinks…even when dating
these are not free. Men have their expectations that come with the dinner and
drinks and then it is the battle of wills.
How can you even compare a few drinks and
a couple of meals to the differences made in men’s salaries–that is just stupid.
…what word you mis-spelled.
“Women are the life givers,
the nuturers…”
Did you miss an E or an R. Is it that women can givith and then can taketh away? :)
I’m biting my tounge here. So many things wrong with your statements. Everything you said women are, men are too. Women don’t have a monopoly on being “nuturers, the voice of reason, the comforters, advisors”. I can’t tell you how many times I have worked sick. Men have heartache just as women do. As for being “Life givers”, last time I checked, it takes two genders to procreate. And as for “Men have their expectations that come with the dinner and
drinks and then it is the battle of wills”, if a man has any expectition after he pays for everthing, he is label a “sexist, womanizer” ect ect. Women don’t HAVE to sleep with them. When a man and woman get married, who is expected to pay the majority of the bills when both are working? Most of the time, its the man.
Heck, I have a female family member that owns a business and she makes a HECK of a lot more then many men in her industry, including myself and her own husband (who is just as experianced as she is).
I am interested in someone taking a poll. “How many days/hours does each gender put in, in a perticular industry”
If you try and give me that “Well women have to call out of work more because they have to take care of the kids”, I don’t buy it. There is nothing preventing each parent from taking equal amount of time off when the children are sick. First time, Mom takes off, second, Dad takes off. Rinse and repeat.
My son was shot in the face by a kid with a bb gun down at the playground a few years ago. I had to leave work early as the paramedics had called me to tell me that my son had “taken a shot to the head” and they were taking him to the ER. The ER docs were unable to dig out the bb and we had to see a specialist the next day. I went in to work and my husband took my son to the doc. I also made up the hour I had to take off early the day of the incident. From what I have experienced both the mom and the dad take off time equally when absolutely necessary. And the moms are more apt to “make up” the time.
Companies value employees (male or female)that add value/insight to the organization and that they can’t easily replace. Differentiate yourself through producing results, not by being a member of a “restricted class”. Once you get a reputation as a “complainer” / “taker” your career is doomed. I have done quite well in my male-dominated company by focusing on my work and not engaging in this kind of posturing.
Dang!!! I thought I was being sexist, but WOW, your comments blew me (no pun intended) away! You are probably one of those women who would comment if I didn’t hold the door open for you, but scream women’s lib if I did.
well, it sounds like we have folks on both sides of the fence. question: why did it take so long for this to come forward if in fact it’s true? if it’s from 2001, where does the timeline end for this matter? could it possibly be that some of those folks that are suing, currently don’t have a job and using this as an excuse to get money, which in reality, they will not get much if class-action. i know that not all folks are probably in this class, but some could be. we seem to only picture just the regular person in this picture. if you noticed newer ads by walmart, they are trying to save even more money. so, if this lawsuit goes up, those low-cost prices will no longer be. so who is going to win? nobody!
You are talking about a minimum wage jobs here. What did someone make 7 cents more an hour than someone else? Get out of your victim group and get back to work!