“I guess Harry Reid will have to bear the burden of denying the disaster victims the money that they need,” Cantor told reporters.
Sorry Charlie, but that’s just wrong. If you pass a bill in the House that you is not going to get approval in the Senate then it’s your fault for not trying to forge a bipartisan approach. These guys need to stop acting as if they hold a majority in both houses. When the House is controlled by one party and the Senate by another party, then you have to compromise and work together. It’s time Mr. Cantor grew up and stopped acting so childish.
Actually that is the reason for a conference committee. Neither chamber of congress passes the other chambers bills the first time through…even when the same party controls both chambers. The Constitution is a really great document…even better when our politicians actually knew what it said!
By “childish”, do you mean one who has no understanding of how the legislative process works? You know, things like conference committees, and bi-cameral legislatures?
No, by “childish” I mean passing a bill you know is never going to be approved by the Senate and then saying “I guess the other guys are to blame.” That’s childish behavior.
This “my way or the highway” attitude on the Right needs to change or nothing will ever get done. When you have veto proof majorities on both sides, then by all means, do what you like. But don’t think that when you control the House, not the Senate, not the Presidency, that it means you get yoru way without compromise.
This country was founded on the principle that our legislators should compromise. Cantor antics are childish.
It’s an emergency relief bill! This country has never demanded “paid fors” for disaster relief or war spending. Only during the Obama administration have Republicans decided to demand budget cuts to pay for disaster relief. It’s never been done before.
This obsession with austerity is killing this country. The Tea Baggers needs to learn that debt is not always a bad thing. It is debt that allows you to purchase your home. Debt allows you to purchase a car and go to college. Too much debt is bad, on that we can agree.
But this country has never, ever, ever demanded budget cuts to pay for disaster relief.
It seems to be the new Republican mantra “Let them Die!” You heard it at the debates. Crowds cheering when the moderator announced that Texas executed more people than any other state. Crowds cheering “Let him die” when Ron Paul was asked what happens to a guy with no health insurance. Booing a soldier because he was gay.
And now, when it comes to disaster relief, when people need the support of the country, you want to sift through your pockets to see how much change you have.
What happened to the Republican Party that it has become so heartless? Even Rick Perry called the Tea Party audience heartless. It wasn’t always like that. It was a Republican President who cared enough about the environment that he started the EPA (Nixon).
This country is going to pot.
September 23, 2011 at 2:03 pm
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“It fails to provide the relief that our fellow Americans need as they struggle to rebuild their lives in the wake of floods, wildfires and hurricanes and it will be rejected by the Senate,” Reid said.
Anyone else tired of our tax dollars being shelled out to irresponsible people who don’t insure their property because they’re too cheap to pay $200 for a flood policy?
The passion around these debates is commendable, but completely misplaced. The reality of this debate in Washington (as is the case with the handling and outcome of virtually all Washington debates) is it is really nothing more than political theater.
Reid, Cantor and the rest of the political party elites will more or less pretend to disagree and argue, but in the end the outcome will do nothing more than perpetuate the myriad of problems in our federal government. Unfortunately, the best we can really hope for is a slightly less undesirable outcome. A slightly less undesirable outcome is still an undesirable outcome.
It seems rather clear to me that the political elite in both parties are, very simply, in on the action. The general public continues to lap up the political theater along with some twisted sense that the political parties are sincerely interested in doing the right thing. The naivete of the general public and our complete inability to critically think through these issues have doomed us to our current state of affairs and miserable failure at some point. The politcal parties have correctly assumed that, in large part, the general public is nothing more than a bunch of chumps and suckers.
On a related note, it is no surprise we seem to now have a generally accepted notion that the Tea Party is some sort of boogie man we should all fear. The left has advanced a very gloomy and scary narrative about the Tea Party. It could not be further from the truth, but the narrative has been predictably and willingly advanced by much of the media.
In addition, the Republican Party elites will pretend to support the conservative principles of the Tea Party, but history will continue to repeat itself. I think it safe to say the Republican Party views the Tea Party as nothing more than useful idiots. On this note, a critical thinker should have a few pointed questions for Speaker Boehner.
“You have been in Congress for over 20 years. How do you explain your inability to improve the institution, make the federal government better and advance the ball relative to adherence to the Constitution? And, by the way, no talking points are permitted in your response.”
“You have said on many occasions that you only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the federal government. Several years ago, however, you were a very high ranking member of the Republican majority in the House at a time when your Party also controlled the Senate and inhabited the White House. During those years, how do you explain your inability to generate a federal surplus and advance the ball on ensuring the federal government operated within the scope of its enumerated powers?”
“Even though you do, in fact, control 1/2 of 1/3 of the federal government, you are Speaker of the House of Representatives, which controls all federal spending. Therefore, why do you (yes, you, Mr. Speaker) continue to allow the federal government to operate at a massive deficit?”
At best, one would get nothing more than incoherent and meaningless responses from our fine Speaker. If we are lucky, we also might get a few crocodile tears.
Folks, we need principled leaders at all levels of government. Until we stop electing snake oil salesmen and very bad actors, we are doomed to becoming nothing more than another addition to the list of once proud and great nations. Ultimately, the government we get is exactly the government we want….nothing more, nothing less.
“I guess Harry Reid will have to bear the burden of denying the disaster victims the money that they need,” Cantor told reporters.
Sorry Charlie, but that’s just wrong. If you pass a bill in the House that you is not going to get approval in the Senate then it’s your fault for not trying to forge a bipartisan approach. These guys need to stop acting as if they hold a majority in both houses. When the House is controlled by one party and the Senate by another party, then you have to compromise and work together. It’s time Mr. Cantor grew up and stopped acting so childish.
Actually that is the reason for a conference committee. Neither chamber of congress passes the other chambers bills the first time through…even when the same party controls both chambers. The Constitution is a really great document…even better when our politicians actually knew what it said!
By “childish”, do you mean one who has no understanding of how the legislative process works? You know, things like conference committees, and bi-cameral legislatures?
No, by “childish” I mean passing a bill you know is never going to be approved by the Senate and then saying “I guess the other guys are to blame.” That’s childish behavior.
This “my way or the highway” attitude on the Right needs to change or nothing will ever get done. When you have veto proof majorities on both sides, then by all means, do what you like. But don’t think that when you control the House, not the Senate, not the Presidency, that it means you get yoru way without compromise.
This country was founded on the principle that our legislators should compromise. Cantor antics are childish.
So your suggestion then is to pass the $6.9B measure with no offsetting spending cuts on programs that have proven not to provide jobs?
It’s an emergency relief bill! This country has never demanded “paid fors” for disaster relief or war spending. Only during the Obama administration have Republicans decided to demand budget cuts to pay for disaster relief. It’s never been done before.
This obsession with austerity is killing this country. The Tea Baggers needs to learn that debt is not always a bad thing. It is debt that allows you to purchase your home. Debt allows you to purchase a car and go to college. Too much debt is bad, on that we can agree.
But this country has never, ever, ever demanded budget cuts to pay for disaster relief.
It seems to be the new Republican mantra “Let them Die!” You heard it at the debates. Crowds cheering when the moderator announced that Texas executed more people than any other state. Crowds cheering “Let him die” when Ron Paul was asked what happens to a guy with no health insurance. Booing a soldier because he was gay.
And now, when it comes to disaster relief, when people need the support of the country, you want to sift through your pockets to see how much change you have.
What happened to the Republican Party that it has become so heartless? Even Rick Perry called the Tea Party audience heartless. It wasn’t always like that. It was a Republican President who cared enough about the environment that he started the EPA (Nixon).
This country is going to pot.
“It fails to provide the relief that our fellow Americans need as they struggle to rebuild their lives in the wake of floods, wildfires and hurricanes and it will be rejected by the Senate,” Reid said.
Anyone else tired of our tax dollars being shelled out to irresponsible people who don’t insure their property because they’re too cheap to pay $200 for a flood policy?
The passion around these debates is commendable, but completely misplaced. The reality of this debate in Washington (as is the case with the handling and outcome of virtually all Washington debates) is it is really nothing more than political theater.
Reid, Cantor and the rest of the political party elites will more or less pretend to disagree and argue, but in the end the outcome will do nothing more than perpetuate the myriad of problems in our federal government. Unfortunately, the best we can really hope for is a slightly less undesirable outcome. A slightly less undesirable outcome is still an undesirable outcome.
It seems rather clear to me that the political elite in both parties are, very simply, in on the action. The general public continues to lap up the political theater along with some twisted sense that the political parties are sincerely interested in doing the right thing. The naivete of the general public and our complete inability to critically think through these issues have doomed us to our current state of affairs and miserable failure at some point. The politcal parties have correctly assumed that, in large part, the general public is nothing more than a bunch of chumps and suckers.
On a related note, it is no surprise we seem to now have a generally accepted notion that the Tea Party is some sort of boogie man we should all fear. The left has advanced a very gloomy and scary narrative about the Tea Party. It could not be further from the truth, but the narrative has been predictably and willingly advanced by much of the media.
In addition, the Republican Party elites will pretend to support the conservative principles of the Tea Party, but history will continue to repeat itself. I think it safe to say the Republican Party views the Tea Party as nothing more than useful idiots. On this note, a critical thinker should have a few pointed questions for Speaker Boehner.
“You have been in Congress for over 20 years. How do you explain your inability to improve the institution, make the federal government better and advance the ball relative to adherence to the Constitution? And, by the way, no talking points are permitted in your response.”
“You have said on many occasions that you only control 1/2 of 1/3 of the federal government. Several years ago, however, you were a very high ranking member of the Republican majority in the House at a time when your Party also controlled the Senate and inhabited the White House. During those years, how do you explain your inability to generate a federal surplus and advance the ball on ensuring the federal government operated within the scope of its enumerated powers?”
“Even though you do, in fact, control 1/2 of 1/3 of the federal government, you are Speaker of the House of Representatives, which controls all federal spending. Therefore, why do you (yes, you, Mr. Speaker) continue to allow the federal government to operate at a massive deficit?”
At best, one would get nothing more than incoherent and meaningless responses from our fine Speaker. If we are lucky, we also might get a few crocodile tears.
Folks, we need principled leaders at all levels of government. Until we stop electing snake oil salesmen and very bad actors, we are doomed to becoming nothing more than another addition to the list of once proud and great nations. Ultimately, the government we get is exactly the government we want….nothing more, nothing less.