I see where Obama has done 923 Executive Orders in nearly 4 years which is more than all the previous Presidents in history. He is a control freak and wants to control every aspect of our lives so he can advance his agenda. Time to let him go in November.
And if Romney were President and the message was the same, you and Fox News would be praising him for being so pro-active. It’s all how you spin it. Don’t go telling me Romney woudn’t do that (hopefully, he’ll never get the chance), unless you can also show me your cyrstal ball.
MadDog, your name fits you perfectly. The record high on Executive Orders by a Republican was 62 in 8 years by George W. Most of the previous Presidents were in the 3 or 4 category. Romney’s executive orders will be to get rid of Obama’s executive orders. It will not be necessary to do “pro-active” orders if we get the Presidency changed out and the Senate back and then Congress will be able to act and get legislation passed. Prince Harry has successfully blocked all legislation sent over from the House declaring it was DOA and thereby protecting Obama from vetoing what he didn’t like. No debate, no vote and people complain about a do nothing Congress. No man should have that kind of power to keep meaningful legislation from being enacted that would help the country.
With a Republican Congress fighting his every move in and attempt to make him a 1-term President (their only cause for living at this time) he has to use Executive Order. Otherwise, we would just sit with nothing being done. That’s what the Republicans want so they can call him a do-nothing President.
Libby, when you look at what he’s done, BO is not a do nothing president. He has given us change. The worst change we could have ever dreamed! One more term and it will be a nightmare for you, me and every other person in the USA. Do to his unregulated spending and artificially low interest rates, and continued destruction of the value of the dollar. The change has already started. The items you, well at least I purchase, fuel, groceries, daily expenses have doubled in four years. You can see the change. His speeches did not tell you what type of change you would get so now you have to look. If you like higher prices, lower raises, fewer jobs and more people living on food stamps than ever before, then he’s your man!
PM, did you really expect him to turn things around in less than 4 years? If so, you are living in LA, LA and I don’t mean Los Angeles. This country was is such dire straits when he took office, but he has done some very good things and the majority of Americans believe the economy is getting stronger because of it.
I hate to burst your bubble Libby, but according to the latest polls, 62% of Americans believe this country is on the wrong track because of the policies of your President. This economy and country is weaker now than 4 years ago and shows little signs of life. That is why employers will not hire or expand. That will not change if we keep this present government in place. The misery index is through the roof and is worse than Carter’s and I lived through him and it was not a pretty picture.
September 25, 2012 at 4:57 pm
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Really! What the majority that are illegal and not being deported? He has shown his vision of change. You just have to open your eyes. You here the rhetoric, look at what he’s done. The truth is that he does not play well with anyone that disagrees with him regardless of the party. Only when he needs them (in his own party) and cuts deals does his kinder side come out. The reality is that he has made a ton of statements that if aired half as much as others’ statements, the liberals would picket DC everyday. The media will elect him, not his record that he won’t even mention. With him its word-play and changing the subject to look at what Bush did. Speaking of, you say Bush was so bad and so did the media. They anounced his $400m deficits as treason (BO’s words) years before 2008 and since ’09 we’ve consistantly averaged 1.5 trillion and not even a whisper. I suppose the collapse of the dollar will be Bush’s fault too!
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“PM, did you really expect him to turn things around in less than 4 years?” And look at the mess he’ll inherit IF he gets another 4
years and who will his majesty blame then, Libby?
You’re the one living in LALA Land. Obama and his family seem to think they are royalty. Time for them all to (sadly) go back to Chicago. Sadly, I live in Chicago.
September 26, 2012 at 9:33 am
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Libby, Let me lay it out for you. The dire straits you mentioned were created by policies of Liberal Progressive Politicians in both parties, chiefly Pelosi, Reid, McCain, Graham and Obama who instigated and voted for all the big spending disastrous legislation that led to the problems. Bonnie & Chris started it all by failing to control and regulate Fannie & Freddie which led to the housing meltdown. The bankers were all too eager to jump on the bandwagon to pedal the bad paper and before long, we had a full blown crisis. Then, we elected an inexperienced Progressive Socialist who doubled down with his own disastrous policies and made it much worse. We don’t need any more Progressives in charge if we are going to climb out of this hole and 4 more years of it will finish the country as a free market economy and will guarantee that the American Dream will go away.
September 26, 2012 at 10:47 am
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Agent, you’ve laying out that same, sad story for forever. I get it, I just don’t agree with it. Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas), Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia), were the co-sponsors of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. Republicans want less regulation, to open the flood gates for greedy Wall Street bankers. Then when these greedy bastard bankrupt this country they point the finger at the Democrats. It’s greedy capitalistic Republicans that have caused this problem!
September 28, 2012 at 4:51 pm
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Ding ding ding ding ding ding! Libby gets a star for the day.
Gee. I just went online (www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html), and, according to a federal government site, the status of Executive Orders for Obama stand at 134. For George W. Bush – 290. For Clinton – 363. For George Bush – 165. For Reagan – 380. I think we need a fact checker for Agent’s original blog.
Libby, your point of view is getting very old. Had you understood my post, I did blame both Democrats and Republicans (RINO’s) for the mess created. What you don’t seem to get is that government and very bad policy caused the greedy bastards as you call them to cause severe economic distress. Pelosi, Reid, Frank & Dodd are at the very top of the list and your guy signed onto it along with many others. The reach across the aislers McCain and Graham are complicit as well. Then, to compound it, we had to bail out the wonderful AIG and numerous banks because they bought into the fraud and they knew they were too big to fail. This was all caused by the Progressive movement in this country and please don’t equate Republicans with Conservatives. This would have never happened if Conservatives were in charge.
“What you don’t seem to get is that government and very bad policy caused the greedy bastards as you call them to cause severe economic distress.”
What you don’t seem to understand is that the legislation did not cause the greed. The greed has always been there. But for the legislation, the greedy would not have been able to come up with this scheme, but no-one forced them into doing what they did. They knew it was wrong and did it anyway.
I never understood why they passed GLB, but it was sponsored by Republicans and passed by a Republican House and Republican Senate. Don’t then try to re-label the Republicans and blame the Democrats, calling them Progressives. It was a Republican bill, Republican House, and Republican Senate. Capitalistic greed. Plain and simple as I’ve said over and over and over. But no-one on this site wants to listen to it. Cover your ears and say lah, lah, lah all you want. Democrats and Obama are not the problem.
Libby, judging from the dislikes on your posts, you are one of the very few on this site that believes the drivel you put out. You seem to think that liberal Progressive Democrats have never passed any bad legislation. Why do you think we have a $16 Trillion debt and so much angst in our economy? This has been going on for decades and I trace it back to LBJ and moving forward with several Congresses. They all passed bad legislation and the chickens have came back to roost on this country. The concept was bad then and it is bad now. Conservative leadership has not been tried and that is what will save the country in the coming years.
I know I am a minority on this site, but I see less dislikes on this particular post than many. I just have to keep plugging along with my beliefs, as do you. Of course I do not believe Democrats have never passed bad legislature. I’m not an idiot, contrary to the opinion of many on this blog. I’m saying the current mess we are in was created by legislation introduces and passed by Republicans. Bush did nothing to repeal it. Now that the bottom has fallen out a Democrat is in office. He can not turn around problems caused by legislature that has been in place for 10 years in only 4 years. I DO believe he is on the right track, but it has been and will continue to be a hard, long road to right this economy. We need jobs. So pass the Jobs Act for crying out loud! Conservative “trickle down” economics DOES NOT WORK. The rich only get richer on the backs of the American worker. That has been proven by the vast chasm between the wealthy and the shrinking middle class. The wealthy are not letting it trickle down, they are hanging onto it in an attempt to spur a recession so they can swoop in and gobble up property and businesses at bargain basement prices. That is why the income of the wealthiest in this country increased 17% last year. Why can’t you see that??
September 26, 2012 at 6:58 pm
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GLB has never been linked to the fall out.
Deregulation as a concept cannot explain the collapse.
Look at the CRA ratings for Leahman Brothers, Countrywide Financial, WAMU, and Bank of America.
Leahman brothers was given an excellent rating for finding “innovative ways to give loans with little to no income documentation” with a median loan of 212,000 and about 15% given to people at poverty level. WAMU was similar. They exploded by 20 locations in 6 years. This was because you could only grow to a certain size with a certain CRA rating.
The CRA regulations caused the collapse. Between 1977 when it was passed and 1992 there were 8 billion in CRA loans. Between 1992 and 2007 (after Clinton pushed on firms to give those loans and Obama sued citi bank for not giving low income loans) that exploded to 4.53 trillion. Regulation caused the collapse. I won’t go over this 50 billion times with you. Look up the CRA ratings, they are government documented. Citibank received the largest section just about of that loan (see the link on here showing the citi bank Geithner love triangle, did you miss that??).
Isn’t it kind of funny that a bank which Obama sued citing CRA regulations and “red lining” (aka leaving out) low income borrowers as the reason for the suit in the 90’s went bankrupt not long after for “targeting” this same group, like Obama said tey had to? Obama did cause the collapse of Citibank directly through regulation, not deregulation. The 1977 CRA act did cause WAMU to have to give those loans to expand, and it did cause them to collapse, Leahman Brothers did have that percent given to loans and they were forced to by CRA regulations. Do you have ANY proof, as in something showing EXACTLY how and which firms were failed by deregulation?
It didn’t take long for the House to wake up to what this guy was trying to do and by the way, the mid term election was the biggest shellacking and turnover in the House in 40 years. I think the American People had a say about their displeasure. Of course, there is still much to do and we need to send many more packing in the House and Senate. Speaking of thwarting, how is it that Harry Reid has blocked every bill sent to him by the House this year and will not permit debate or voting on any bill and is proud to announce the bills are all DOA. Just who is doing the thwarting here?
He was able to pass healthcare, something all republicans at the time disagreed with the most.
The reason they wanted him out as a president was to undo that part of legislation. You say that as if it means something that they wanted him out.
He did have the ability to pass tax reform or anything he wanted. They didn’t. The point of why didn’t he act is still valid, and the reason was not republicans.
Why do you only reply to my posts, Bob? There are plenty of other people here that you could argue with. Why do you pick me? I will not go over this with YOU 50 times. I will no longer argue with you on this site. It’s not worth it.
We could go round and round about GLB, but you would never concede your position and neither would I. So just drop it and quit picking a fight with me.
Bob, I agree with you partly about the reason Republicans have wanted this man to be a one termer. There is no doubt Obamacare was the big item which was rammed down everyone’s throat even though the majority of Americans did not want this version of Healthcare Reform. However, we could pick from literally dozens of things this Progressive President has done in the last 4 years to vehemently object to. He is not President to all Americans, but President of the far left crowd who wants to control our lives in every aspect to maintain power in the future. That is not much of a future unless he goes away and we elect adults to get the country back on track. The polls reflect my sentiment with 68% believing the country is on the wrong track and his policies are an unmitigated disaster.
I have no doubt that government creation of standards will almost immediately lead to effective liability for organizations not complying with “voluntary standards”? This is a de facto regulatory environment, by name or not.
I don’t care which President has done what before… This action does seem to be clearly focused at expanding executive power in the face of a Congressional repudiation of the same regulatory effort. If you followed the cyber security debate, there was a lot of smoke, but not much fire.
I see where Obama has done 923 Executive Orders in nearly 4 years which is more than all the previous Presidents in history. He is a control freak and wants to control every aspect of our lives so he can advance his agenda. Time to let him go in November.
Amen to that!!!
Unless you are LGBT or a Woman, in which case Romney wants to control every aspect of your life.
And if Romney were President and the message was the same, you and Fox News would be praising him for being so pro-active. It’s all how you spin it. Don’t go telling me Romney woudn’t do that (hopefully, he’ll never get the chance), unless you can also show me your cyrstal ball.
MadDog, your name fits you perfectly. The record high on Executive Orders by a Republican was 62 in 8 years by George W. Most of the previous Presidents were in the 3 or 4 category. Romney’s executive orders will be to get rid of Obama’s executive orders. It will not be necessary to do “pro-active” orders if we get the Presidency changed out and the Senate back and then Congress will be able to act and get legislation passed. Prince Harry has successfully blocked all legislation sent over from the House declaring it was DOA and thereby protecting Obama from vetoing what he didn’t like. No debate, no vote and people complain about a do nothing Congress. No man should have that kind of power to keep meaningful legislation from being enacted that would help the country.
With a Republican Congress fighting his every move in and attempt to make him a 1-term President (their only cause for living at this time) he has to use Executive Order. Otherwise, we would just sit with nothing being done. That’s what the Republicans want so they can call him a do-nothing President.
Libby, when you look at what he’s done, BO is not a do nothing president. He has given us change. The worst change we could have ever dreamed! One more term and it will be a nightmare for you, me and every other person in the USA. Do to his unregulated spending and artificially low interest rates, and continued destruction of the value of the dollar. The change has already started. The items you, well at least I purchase, fuel, groceries, daily expenses have doubled in four years. You can see the change. His speeches did not tell you what type of change you would get so now you have to look. If you like higher prices, lower raises, fewer jobs and more people living on food stamps than ever before, then he’s your man!
PM, did you really expect him to turn things around in less than 4 years? If so, you are living in LA, LA and I don’t mean Los Angeles. This country was is such dire straits when he took office, but he has done some very good things and the majority of Americans believe the economy is getting stronger because of it.
I hate to burst your bubble Libby, but according to the latest polls, 62% of Americans believe this country is on the wrong track because of the policies of your President. This economy and country is weaker now than 4 years ago and shows little signs of life. That is why employers will not hire or expand. That will not change if we keep this present government in place. The misery index is through the roof and is worse than Carter’s and I lived through him and it was not a pretty picture.
Really! What the majority that are illegal and not being deported? He has shown his vision of change. You just have to open your eyes. You here the rhetoric, look at what he’s done. The truth is that he does not play well with anyone that disagrees with him regardless of the party. Only when he needs them (in his own party) and cuts deals does his kinder side come out. The reality is that he has made a ton of statements that if aired half as much as others’ statements, the liberals would picket DC everyday. The media will elect him, not his record that he won’t even mention. With him its word-play and changing the subject to look at what Bush did. Speaking of, you say Bush was so bad and so did the media. They anounced his $400m deficits as treason (BO’s words) years before 2008 and since ’09 we’ve consistantly averaged 1.5 trillion and not even a whisper. I suppose the collapse of the dollar will be Bush’s fault too!
“PM, did you really expect him to turn things around in less than 4 years?” And look at the mess he’ll inherit IF he gets another 4
years and who will his majesty blame then, Libby?
You’re the one living in LALA Land. Obama and his family seem to think they are royalty. Time for them all to (sadly) go back to Chicago. Sadly, I live in Chicago.
Libby, Let me lay it out for you. The dire straits you mentioned were created by policies of Liberal Progressive Politicians in both parties, chiefly Pelosi, Reid, McCain, Graham and Obama who instigated and voted for all the big spending disastrous legislation that led to the problems. Bonnie & Chris started it all by failing to control and regulate Fannie & Freddie which led to the housing meltdown. The bankers were all too eager to jump on the bandwagon to pedal the bad paper and before long, we had a full blown crisis. Then, we elected an inexperienced Progressive Socialist who doubled down with his own disastrous policies and made it much worse. We don’t need any more Progressives in charge if we are going to climb out of this hole and 4 more years of it will finish the country as a free market economy and will guarantee that the American Dream will go away.
Agent, you’ve laying out that same, sad story for forever. I get it, I just don’t agree with it. Sen. Phil Gramm (R, Texas), Rep. Jim Leach (R, Iowa), and Rep. Thomas J. Bliley, Jr. (R, Virginia), were the co-sponsors of the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act. Republicans want less regulation, to open the flood gates for greedy Wall Street bankers. Then when these greedy bastard bankrupt this country they point the finger at the Democrats. It’s greedy capitalistic Republicans that have caused this problem!
Ding ding ding ding ding ding! Libby gets a star for the day.
Gee. I just went online (www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html), and, according to a federal government site, the status of Executive Orders for Obama stand at 134. For George W. Bush – 290. For Clinton – 363. For George Bush – 165. For Reagan – 380. I think we need a fact checker for Agent’s original blog.
And he says liberals are the masters of deceit!
Libby, your point of view is getting very old. Had you understood my post, I did blame both Democrats and Republicans (RINO’s) for the mess created. What you don’t seem to get is that government and very bad policy caused the greedy bastards as you call them to cause severe economic distress. Pelosi, Reid, Frank & Dodd are at the very top of the list and your guy signed onto it along with many others. The reach across the aislers McCain and Graham are complicit as well. Then, to compound it, we had to bail out the wonderful AIG and numerous banks because they bought into the fraud and they knew they were too big to fail. This was all caused by the Progressive movement in this country and please don’t equate Republicans with Conservatives. This would have never happened if Conservatives were in charge.
“What you don’t seem to get is that government and very bad policy caused the greedy bastards as you call them to cause severe economic distress.”
What you don’t seem to understand is that the legislation did not cause the greed. The greed has always been there. But for the legislation, the greedy would not have been able to come up with this scheme, but no-one forced them into doing what they did. They knew it was wrong and did it anyway.
I never understood why they passed GLB, but it was sponsored by Republicans and passed by a Republican House and Republican Senate. Don’t then try to re-label the Republicans and blame the Democrats, calling them Progressives. It was a Republican bill, Republican House, and Republican Senate. Capitalistic greed. Plain and simple as I’ve said over and over and over. But no-one on this site wants to listen to it. Cover your ears and say lah, lah, lah all you want. Democrats and Obama are not the problem.
Libby, judging from the dislikes on your posts, you are one of the very few on this site that believes the drivel you put out. You seem to think that liberal Progressive Democrats have never passed any bad legislation. Why do you think we have a $16 Trillion debt and so much angst in our economy? This has been going on for decades and I trace it back to LBJ and moving forward with several Congresses. They all passed bad legislation and the chickens have came back to roost on this country. The concept was bad then and it is bad now. Conservative leadership has not been tried and that is what will save the country in the coming years.
I know I am a minority on this site, but I see less dislikes on this particular post than many. I just have to keep plugging along with my beliefs, as do you. Of course I do not believe Democrats have never passed bad legislature. I’m not an idiot, contrary to the opinion of many on this blog. I’m saying the current mess we are in was created by legislation introduces and passed by Republicans. Bush did nothing to repeal it. Now that the bottom has fallen out a Democrat is in office. He can not turn around problems caused by legislature that has been in place for 10 years in only 4 years. I DO believe he is on the right track, but it has been and will continue to be a hard, long road to right this economy. We need jobs. So pass the Jobs Act for crying out loud! Conservative “trickle down” economics DOES NOT WORK. The rich only get richer on the backs of the American worker. That has been proven by the vast chasm between the wealthy and the shrinking middle class. The wealthy are not letting it trickle down, they are hanging onto it in an attempt to spur a recession so they can swoop in and gobble up property and businesses at bargain basement prices. That is why the income of the wealthiest in this country increased 17% last year. Why can’t you see that??
GLB has never been linked to the fall out.
Deregulation as a concept cannot explain the collapse.
Look at the CRA ratings for Leahman Brothers, Countrywide Financial, WAMU, and Bank of America.
Leahman brothers was given an excellent rating for finding “innovative ways to give loans with little to no income documentation” with a median loan of 212,000 and about 15% given to people at poverty level. WAMU was similar. They exploded by 20 locations in 6 years. This was because you could only grow to a certain size with a certain CRA rating.
The CRA regulations caused the collapse. Between 1977 when it was passed and 1992 there were 8 billion in CRA loans. Between 1992 and 2007 (after Clinton pushed on firms to give those loans and Obama sued citi bank for not giving low income loans) that exploded to 4.53 trillion. Regulation caused the collapse. I won’t go over this 50 billion times with you. Look up the CRA ratings, they are government documented. Citibank received the largest section just about of that loan (see the link on here showing the citi bank Geithner love triangle, did you miss that??).
Isn’t it kind of funny that a bank which Obama sued citing CRA regulations and “red lining” (aka leaving out) low income borrowers as the reason for the suit in the 90’s went bankrupt not long after for “targeting” this same group, like Obama said tey had to? Obama did cause the collapse of Citibank directly through regulation, not deregulation. The 1977 CRA act did cause WAMU to have to give those loans to expand, and it did cause them to collapse, Leahman Brothers did have that percent given to loans and they were forced to by CRA regulations. Do you have ANY proof, as in something showing EXACTLY how and which firms were failed by deregulation?
You’re wrong. Admit it.
Fact checking Agent is a full time job. It’s like fact checking Hannity.
Regardless of who issued an executive order it’s a way to bypass congress and create law.
Exactly! He has to do it because Congress has made it their mission to thwart his every move. They have come out and stated it.
It didn’t take long for the House to wake up to what this guy was trying to do and by the way, the mid term election was the biggest shellacking and turnover in the House in 40 years. I think the American People had a say about their displeasure. Of course, there is still much to do and we need to send many more packing in the House and Senate. Speaking of thwarting, how is it that Harry Reid has blocked every bill sent to him by the House this year and will not permit debate or voting on any bill and is proud to announce the bills are all DOA. Just who is doing the thwarting here?
He was able to pass healthcare, something all republicans at the time disagreed with the most.
The reason they wanted him out as a president was to undo that part of legislation. You say that as if it means something that they wanted him out.
He did have the ability to pass tax reform or anything he wanted. They didn’t. The point of why didn’t he act is still valid, and the reason was not republicans.
Why do you only reply to my posts, Bob? There are plenty of other people here that you could argue with. Why do you pick me? I will not go over this with YOU 50 times. I will no longer argue with you on this site. It’s not worth it.
We could go round and round about GLB, but you would never concede your position and neither would I. So just drop it and quit picking a fight with me.
Bob, I agree with you partly about the reason Republicans have wanted this man to be a one termer. There is no doubt Obamacare was the big item which was rammed down everyone’s throat even though the majority of Americans did not want this version of Healthcare Reform. However, we could pick from literally dozens of things this Progressive President has done in the last 4 years to vehemently object to. He is not President to all Americans, but President of the far left crowd who wants to control our lives in every aspect to maintain power in the future. That is not much of a future unless he goes away and we elect adults to get the country back on track. The polls reflect my sentiment with 68% believing the country is on the wrong track and his policies are an unmitigated disaster.
Giving the power to “issue voluntary standards”?
I have no doubt that government creation of standards will almost immediately lead to effective liability for organizations not complying with “voluntary standards”? This is a de facto regulatory environment, by name or not.
I don’t care which President has done what before… This action does seem to be clearly focused at expanding executive power in the face of a Congressional repudiation of the same regulatory effort. If you followed the cyber security debate, there was a lot of smoke, but not much fire.