If a closely held corp, or a non-profit opt out, they should see their insurance premium rise. By not offering the coverage, they will experience more child births, which are expensive. If Uncle Sam, or the Insurance Company is going to foot the bill, and provide the coverage to the EE’s, then why should US tax payers, or US Insurance customers foot the bill.
Either way you look at it someone is taking it in the pants… except for the Non-Profit, or closely held corp.
In reality, their insurance premiums won’t rise, because the employee will still obtain contraceptives. The only change? WE will be paying for it and the closely-held corp will get the benefit of lower premiums. This sucks.
Hi Libby, I agree that their premiums won’t rise… That said, I still think they should.
“Religious objections” to providing contraceptives should = accepting the risks of not providing contraceptives. Why is it that a Non-Profit, or Closely held corp can transfer their costs due to “religious objections.” If they object, then perhaps US Citizens can chose to object to their Tax Exempt status.
Obama said the family will save $2,500 per year on Obamacare premiums. We are still looking for that savings. Oops! What did you say? Premiums escalating? What happened to that promise made 39 times on tape?
Hey Trust me, does that apply to booger as well? He certainly doesn’t belong in this country. I hear that Venezuela is nice this time of year. You can work in the field all day for 2 squares. Beans and rice and beans and rice.
If I remember correctly Obama told the Catholic bishops they had nothing to worry about when the affordable care act came out. The white house is worried about the elections coming up – this is political.
knowall, Not sure about Medicaid since it doesn’t pay much, but Medicare definitely doesn’t pay for birth control since women into their sixties and seventies don’t worry about that at all. It is the Obamacare bunch that thinks we should have birth control at all ages even if the woman is far beyond child bearing years. They also want it for young men in the plan. That is funny, isn’t it?
What’s funny about a man taking responsibility for contraceptives? You think it’s all the woman’s responsibility? And yet, you don’t want women to have access to it. That’s pretty f’d up.
My daughter is a Pharmacist at Wal-Mart’s. I told her that he was not going to get any of my front seat tickets to the tent revival last month if she continued to sell birth control. One day when I was sifting through her purse to see if she had any of her own pills, I stole her keys and broke into the Wal-Mart’s stock room and replaced all the birth control pills with mini Mentos candies. This big burly security guard shined his light in the room so I had to swallow the evidence. Now I cry all the time and feel bloated.
August 26, 2014 at 3:56 pm
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LOL!!!
August 27, 2014 at 10:05 am
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I should have been more specific on the medicare coverage question: does federal disability (pretty much anyone who has reached the age of reason can apply, as elibigle?) cover b control?
I hear you, producer #1 – we will get to pay more because groups like Hobby Lobby want to force their religious beliefs onto their employees. Can you point to the part in The Bible that says, “Thou Shalt Not Wear a Jimmyhat?”
Planet, per Ecclesiates 10:2, the heart of the wise inclines to the right, the heart of the fool to the left. How is that for a bible quotation?
Jesus said separate the goats from the sheep. Goats to the left, sheep to the right. He told the disciples who had been fishing all night from the left side of the boat and they had caught not one fish to throw their nets over the right side and their nets were overflowing. This should be a message to you, but it will not register, I am sure of that.
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof …” and Article VI specifies that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
August 27, 2014 at 12:21 pm
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I asked for a reference to the SPECIFIC WORDS “separation of church and state,” which is NOT found anywhere in the Constitution. But I’m glad you noticed that the phrase “prohibiting the free exercise thereof” is in the Constitution. Liberals seem to forget that phrase all the time.
August 27, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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Since when is Hobby Lobby a religious institution?
August 27, 2014 at 1:03 pm
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What does Hobby Lobby being or not being a “religious institution” have to do with the wording of the First Amendment? The words “religious institution” ALSO do not appear in that document.
August 27, 2014 at 3:34 pm
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You’re just playing semantics with me now, Connie. The first amendment says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Hobby Lobby is NOT an establishment of religion and therefore should not be awarded exemption from the ACA as such. I know. SCOTUS thinks otherwise. I get it. I just don’t agree with it.
August 27, 2014 at 4:10 pm
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Libby—the potus doesn’t follow the Constitution, so why are you quoting it??!?? Isn’t it moot if the pos-potus doesn’t follow our laws???
August 27, 2014 at 4:22 pm
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Well, Liberal, I can’t agree with you on that. If he had done anything, just one small thing, that was illegal impeachment charges would have been brought before you could say House of Representatives. They haven’t been brought, and are not going to brought, because he hasn’t done anything illegal.
I get you guys don’t like him and he’s lied about some things, but what politian hasn’t? If that was criteria for impeachment, they’d have all been impeached. Read my lips….
August 27, 2014 at 5:24 pm
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That doesn’t even make sense! “Hobby Lobby is not an establishment of religion.” “Establishment of religion” means Congress shall not force people to obey or follow any particular religion – they can’t ESTABLISH that the “national religion” is Christianity or Buddhism or Hinduism or Judaism or whatever. It doesn’t mean “a business establishment” as in “a place of business,” it means “to establish” as in “to bring something about.” It’s a verb, not a noun! That’s not “semantics,” that’s just correctly understanding the meaning of the word as it’s used in context! Goodness!
August 27, 2014 at 12:11 pm
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Please don’t quote Scripture out of context like this. I may be moderate politically, but I am serious about my faith. These passages have as much to do with Hannity vs Maddow as the prayer of Jabez was meant to be a get rich scheme.
Contraception is something that people should be paying for out of pocket. Insurance was never supposed to pay for every little thing, if car insurance was like this flat tires or windshield wipers would be covered and the price of those items would skyrocket. This country has become stupid writ large.
Actually, the advent of the HMO created an insurance that does cover “every little thing”.
Prior to the ACA debacle, people could choose the cheaper option of major medical or whatever the other choices are. I always paid extra to have the HMO. I like knowing exactly how much each prescription or office visit will cost.
I think you are right retired. A free society as envisioned by the founding fathers did not include government mandates or control of industries to micromanage the population. That is not how the left sees it, but then they don’t believe in the Constitution it seems.
Also, they are mis guiding the public with these statements….They DO provide Contraception (prevention) – (16 out of the 20), however, their objection was to the ones that are partial abortion pills, like the “Morning-After” pill and that breed. So to say they don’t provide contracption at all is a mis-statement.
The morning after pill does not abort a fetus. The misconception of contraception continues to beg for education. Oh, and not all contraception is taken solely for the purpose of preventing pregnancy. But, I realize those facts do not fit the Hannity narrative.
Yet they didn’t have any objections to forced abortions in China, their supplier. Interesting. So government-sponsored forced abortions of a fully-formed, ACTUAL fetus are ok, but the prevention of the implantation of a few cells is wrong. Interesting. Also, their “god” commits abortions all the time (called mis-carriages).
That’s OK. It’s also OK to execute people that have allegedly broken the law. It’s also OK to go to war and kill people on the “other side.” It’s alwo OK to shoot someone that even steps onto your property, whether they mean you harm or not. These are murders that are OK with these fruit-loops, but not the scraping of a few cells from a woman’s uterus.
And another round of pointless arguments begins. Nothing more important to the folks in DC then free birth control.
Their priories are way out of line. They continue to divide the nation. The rest of the world continues to laugh at us. And Obama is worried about birth control.
Hi Libby I would like to share with you a beautiful political cartoon my mini golf buddy sent to my telex. It shows a republican on each of Obama’s shoulders. One would tell Obama to do one thing, they the other would tell him to do the opposite. Each would get mad at the other. Then one of the republicans started to tea bag the other and Obama finally woke up saying, “why am I letting these idiots tell me what to do? I should have gone with my instincts all along!’ Then Obama popped their heads off like zits. The puss went everywhere and we were all happily ever after.
No, Libby – it’s us “right-wing religious fanatics” that object to paying for and providing four (out of twenty) drugs that are specifically used to induce an abortion. We “right-wing religious fanatics” believe that the unborn child has rights also. The right to live.
Dum Some – This law applies to ALL forms of contraception, not just the 4 objected to by Hobby Lobby. Do some research for God’s sake.
A zygote &/or an embryo is not an unborn child, either. It’s an unborn child when it can survive outside the womb.
And I know all of you right-wing religious fanatic GUYS would like to stomp all over a woman’s right to choose, but the right to choose IS A RIGHT. Get over it.
As far as paying for it, health insurance premiums actually go DOWN when you include birth control. A 12-pack of pills is a helluva lot cheaper than birthing a baby. But since all you right-wing fanatic GUYS refuse to support a woman’s right, all WE taxpayers will be paying for it. Way to go righties. More sucking off the federal tit. Hypocrites! You all make me sick.
Have you ever seen what’s left of the zygote and/or embryo after an abortion. It looks a heck of a lot like a miniature baby…except all in pieces because it’s arms and legs have been ripped off.
August 26, 2014 at 2:31 pm
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No, Bob, I haven’t seen a zygote and neither have you because it is a single cell formed as the result of the merging of an egg cell and a sperm cell. It’s a fertilized egg, with the potential to develop into an embryo.
An embryo is an organism in the early stages of development which cannot survive on its own. Between the embryo stage and birth, it is a fetus.
I think you are confusing zygote and embryo with fetus.
August 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm
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Actually zygotes look like gummy bears. I went to the Piggly Wiggly and bought 4 pounds of them the other day. I like to line them up on my desk like toy soldiers and play war. Usually the green bears win and I like to eat the red ones.
August 27, 2014 at 11:26 am
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Some Guy – that would be some trick for the morning after pill. How long does it take for the cellular transformation to actually look like a baby? I think it’s at least a month, but it’s been a long time since I took an anatomy class.
August 27, 2014 at 12:10 pm
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KY – “Some Guy” is actually “bob”
August 25, 2014 at 6:02 pm
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FFA, did you notice the stupid moniker thief troll Booger’s latest attempt at humor. I am sure Planet, Libby & a few other trolls thought it was funny. I agree that it is pointless to keep arguing the same thing on every article about Obamacare. It keeps imploding, people are withdrawing, premiums not paid, having to go into re-enrollment because the site is so screwed up and all they care about is forcing employers to pay for birth control and abortions by pill. It is disgusting to say the least.
FAA, Obama is not worried about birth control, he is worried about providing basic medical coverage and services to all Americans, not just those who are fortunate enough to get it provided for them. It’s the GOP who wants to limit birth control and basic medical coverage.
I wonder how big of a baby Agent is when he gets BOR’d.
August 26, 2014 at 1:45 pm
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I can’t imagine. Of course he’ll say he never gets BOR’d.
August 26, 2014 at 3:32 pm
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Are you two implying that Original Agent sounds like a broken record?
August 26, 2014 at 3:52 pm
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That or a Myna bird.
August 26, 2014 at 7:11 pm
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Yep, that was pretty cranky of Planet Captain.
August 25, 2014 at 5:54 pm
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So, my religion which is entirely made up just like everybody elses, believes that Xtians shouldn’t be given any medical insurance at all as they can just pray. As everyone knows, prayer works all the time unless Gawd decides you or your children should suffer needlessly, then he/she decides not to heal you.Then it’s Gawd’s will you know.You’re not disagreeing with Gawd are you?
Jack, do you remember that soldier who released all the military secrets a while back. He is in prison now and is demanding a sex change operation. They will probably give it to him. Will he be put in a women’s section or a man’s section of the prison? I say put him in with Tyrone and he can learn the new meaning of “kid”.
Hi Libby, I would like you to take a wonderful moment to review the latest post from Original Agent. It seems our friend from the Colony of Texico is clearly a racist. Here is some of the latest drivel that has been posted by this Neanderthal. Please do not refer to rubes as Opie Griffith for that is racist.
“Will he be put in a women’s section or a man’s section of the prison? I say put him in with Tyrone and he can learn the new meaning of “kid”.
He’s absolutely a bigot, I know that for a fact. He and Sarge say terrible things about Muslims, gays, and other minorities. Sarge stays away from blacks, though, and remains very incensed that I source-quoted the KKK once. I think we can draw our own conclusions on that one.
Okay, Libby, Planet, Booger – I was wrong. For the first time in my life I actually researched something using that there Google and found out that the morning after pill does NOT actually cause an abortion. Unless we want to change the definition of abortion so we can fit that pill in my nice little mental box of hating things for wrong reasons. You know, where I keep my hatred of The President.
Back to censoring, I see. There is a word for people who try to “fix” narrative rather than engage in it. That word is ‘tool’, and you are certainly acting like one.
Hi Planet, boy that idiots on the far right surely is a stupid doofus isn’t he? It reminds me of this political cartoon I received when I was getting my oil changed on my Rascal Scooter named Skeeter. It was a bunch of people wearing sheets walking through a desert. All of a sudden a pick up truck with gun turrets drives by and stops. The driver of the pick up gets out and says, “Anyone know how I get to the rally?” The first guy takes off his hood, and says, “It’s over yonder, 15 miles from Old Man’s Farm.” The second guy says “No it a’int, it’s 12 miles from the Waltones’ Farm.” The moral of the story is there is no relevance to anything from the far right.
Planet, you are so stupid you don’t know boogers moniker thievery posting his insults. Congratulations on your stupidity. Now, you have permission to go pee on Chick Fil A or Hobbby Lobby store buildings.
I love how just anyone can buy an insurancestry (insurance ministry agency). Do they have ANY laws in Texico Cliven?
August 28, 2014 at 12:24 pm
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Ding ding ding ding ding Libby. And might I add, OH SNAP! Agent/Real Agent/Original Agent (what’s next, Authentic Agent?), go ahead and play your thumbwar. We know your childish ways.
August 26, 2014 at 11:50 am
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My buddy booger and I think we have a new cottage industry going stealing monikers from IJ posters and posting trash on every comment. So what if people think we are doofus idiots. We like that title.
What I mean to say under Planet’s moniker was said Log Cabin industry. That’s what us neo cons like to do behind closed doors. We will be having a prostate tickle fight over labor day.
Agent and Booger, stop with the moniker back and forth.
Libby, stay consistent. I don’t know what has driven you off the rails lately but surely even you know you’re not making sense.
Planet: The morning after pill stops a child from being born. Whether it’s a fetus or not, it end the start of a life. It’s a matter of semantics of which you speak, not a matter of “science”. Science says that the egg is on the path to become a baby. You’re stopping a baby from being born. End of story. Semantics and OPINION comes in after that as to whether or not that is killing. Not science. Your OPINION is that you aren’t. My opinion is you absolutely are. You’re a man of God too, which really makes no sense on that matter.
As soon as a baby starts developing, in the absence of your intervention it would be born, and God did for a fact give that baby a soul.
He doesn’t go, woah woah, take the soul back Jesus, don’t you get it, they didn’t want that baby!
And don’t mock me or call me a religious zealot on that one. I’m talking in the perspective of your beliefs. If you believe in God, you believe God makes babies. Run with it. Stop with the dribble and typical bible bashing, people bashing, I’m so much better than other religious people crap.
“Your OPINION is that you aren’t. My opinion is you absolutely are.”
Exactly. It’s your opinion. And as long as it is not illegal, a woman’s right to choose is her RIGHT.
I find it funny that it’s usually MEN that have a problem with this issue, when the number of deadbeat dads is outrageous. I guess it has something to do with your manhood and the fact that you were able to sire a child that makes you so engaged in the topic; when in fact it is out of your hands and none of your business. That must be the reason you’re so against birth control. You can’t CONTROL it. I’ll say it again, get over it.
You are right Libby that a woman’s right is to choose birth control and abortion. However, an employer should have the right to choose the benefits offered under their health plan. If it doesn’t include what you think it should, you are “free” to seek other employment that does offer it.
Did I even just take the argument against birth control or your “rights”?
Have I ever said a woman shouldn’t be allowed to have birth control?
It’s funny because I’ve really avoided it. I’ve told you to call it what it is, and I’ve told Planet to stop acting like his opinion is fact and stop insulting people saying they don’t know science when it isn’t a matter of science.
I have also said that birth control being on insurance policies doesn’t make sense and to pay for it yourself.
That last one in particular seems to spit in the face of your narrative that I’m against your “right”
Also, murder isn’t a right.
I will finally make commentary on this though I have avoided it.
That baby is not yours. It is Gods. You didn’t choose to have it. God created to make it. As soon as it stirs in growth, it was stirred in growth by god. As soon as the growth ends, it was ended in growth by you.
And that baby, which would have been born in the absence of your intervention, had it’s life ended. End of story.
It is NOT your right, it is not YOUR child even after birth. It never will be. It never was. And I won’t hear your bull regarding it.
God cannot create a baby, because he doesn’t exist. No one should get special treatment under the law, just because they have a delusion about some magical sky-fairy who lives on a cloud and kills babies by causing miscarriages to happen.
In the absence of a God, which I started agnostic and still against abortion,
A human embryo is a human embryo for what? A human baby. You can’t tell me any circumstance of stopping the development of a human embryo is not murder.
You act like it’s magic solely for the religious folk, and then ignore science yourself.
Also, God does exist. Get over it. I struggled myself with that for over 10 years. Pay attention, and then ponder how an evolving creature that duplicated as a human embryo does, ever got to that point. Trial and error? Even being the slightest off a human baby wouldn’t survive. The path to carbon becoming a carbon based life form, is simply impossible with evolution in the “in between” stages. Think it through some time. You’ll see what I mean. The feeding tube to a child for example, without it they would die. When did the feeding tube come into existence? When did a baby start to be developed without dying from the absence of one?
It’s absolutely science.
Also pay attention to the people out there who feel the need to insult religion. That’s one of the biggest reasons I believe. Debating as an agnostic.
August 28, 2014 at 12:42 pm
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God and religion has not caused wars.
People do.
I am tired of this argument.
It’s the most bigoted one out there, and you Libby, believe in a God. We have talked on it. So it is also extremely elitist and hypocrite in nature.
August 26, 2014 at 4:31 pm
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Bob, I see that Libby still thinks you are taking her rights away from her. You can explain this a thousand different ways and she still wouldn’t get it.
Bob – Don’t you remember the good old days when women had no rights? They couldn’t vote or go out in public unescorted. Oh how I long for those days. My wife is old school. She cooks and cleans and keeps her trap shut until I tell her she can open it. She’s a good woman, not like that liberal troll Libby. My wife serves me my dinner while I’m watching Honey Boo boo in my Rascal Scooter, Skeeter. If I don’t like what she cooks, I’ll throw the plate against the wall and she’ll rush to make me something different. Since she’s Filippino, she know how to please a man, if you know what I mean. Long time. Winky, winky.
I remember when I first opened that crate at Ming Lih popped out. We said “I do” about 3 minutes later after we got the straw off her. Those were the days, mail order brides fresh from the South Pacific. Got laid that day for the first time ever. Back then we used pebbles in the cooter as birth control.
Libby, it is not the good old days in the Muslim world when women cannot go out into public unescorted, have no rights at all, get stoned or honor killed at the drop of a hat, abused, raped and their good husbands can have several wives if they want them. Keep them barefoot and pregnant and turn the kids into little terrorists. Yes, they are really nice people.
Sounds like your kind of place, Agent. Why don’t you move there?
August 28, 2014 at 9:45 am
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Oh! That’s right. You already live there. It’s called Texico!
August 26, 2014 at 5:28 pm
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I just don’t care to. I didn’t even take up the argument right then about whether or not she should get birth control.
I told Planet that he cannot claim that these religious folk are ignoring science. No form of science says that a fertilized egg is not going to become a baby. No scientist would seriously say that stopping that egg from growing is stopping the egg from becoming a life. Stopping life from coming into existence is what even science has to call this process of “abortion”. Aborting what? Aborting a baby, a life, a fetus, or an egg of human nature from growing.
And that there is where semantics come in. It makes perfect sense to call the ending of a life murder. It makes sense in some odd way for Planet to not call it murder of a “baby” only in terms of semantics. But yet he calls the one who calls it murder “scientifically” inaccurate and suggests they go back to school.
How can a Christian argue against their own people like that?
The best biblical quote that Planet should look at, since he loves attacking his own people:
“Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?” And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” And He said, “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting,…”
Attacking Christians in the name of Science, especially when it comes to aborting God’s children to be, is surely not a good thing.
Planet is no Christian. He loves to attack and get on the band wagon.
Do you abstain from eating pork and eating shell-fish? If you have a garden, do you plant each item in a separate field? Have you ever worked on the “Sabbath”? If you have, then you shall surely be put to death. Or do you just pick and choose which parts of the bible to follow and which parts are ok to ignore?
You are the reason I believe in God. You are hilarious.
What part of you’re talking to an agnostic who made these arguments himself 10 years ago do you not understand? You say what you just said because you have a “need” to destroy religion, despite it’s good affects. Does whether or not one eats pork matter in the bible? Or does judge not lest thee be judged and the moral principles?
I’ve heard this argument before. You’re too young to have heard the other side. Thank you for revealing your age. It is only popular in the younger age groups.
I follow every section to the best of my ability. When it comes to the parts of the bible concerning pork, you might want to do a google search on tribal law, and which sections of the bible are talking about “commandments” and which are talking about “health”.
August 28, 2014 at 12:56 pm
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“EX” agnostic that should say.
My choice to become a person of religion was rather recent.
If we want to talk about my history I’m more than willing. I’ve done it before you just haven’t listened.
Do I pick and choose what I follow in the bible…What a laugh.
There is a non-christian being a christian zealot. Basically you said “you can’t be christian unless you are a perfect christian!” (disregarding that you don’t even know the theology of the bible regarding pork. Go take classes on it. It is not “ignored” in hypocrite fashion. I don’t have time to explain it to you. Just know the Kashrut laws are not commandments. Eating un clean meats so to speak is not the same as breaking a commandment.
I bet money you don’t even know the name of the laws you are talking about. You pulled out a bible and said “ah ha! See this one???” You didn’t study it. You didn’t look into why they exist. You didn’t look into how they were integrated, and what context, you knee jerk reaction said “oh my! Something to battle religion with!” (ergo why I said you are the reason I believe in God, Satan is why you do that. When you wise up you’ll realize that. I didn’t dumb down with my 156 IQ, I wised up.)
August 28, 2014 at 1:32 pm
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It’s not my job to convert you.
I wasn’t converted by some person talking to me.
Things happened. All around me. Some were good. Some were bad. I didn’t necessarily choose to become Christian. It was…Put there for me.
You might like this some day, when and if you have a life that pulls you to God.
“Being a Christian is not the result of an ethical choice, or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives new horizon and a decisive direction”
August 26, 2014 at 1:09 pm
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Agent, show me one post where I stole your moniker. If you want to steal mine, that’s okay. I know you secretely want to be me. Are you going to censor yourself then?
well, that’s it. I’m officially done with the comments section on the IJ. I used to come to this site with an open mind to hopefully get informed and try and see things a different way. Not anymore; this comments section has become Romper Room. It’s nothing but personal attacks, downvoting to hide comments, and hijacking of monikers. My 7- and 3- year olds play nicer than this.
On some boards, you can’t post unless you’re a registered user and even then your comments are subject to moderation. Call it censorship if you want, but on a site for insurance PROFESSIONALS, there’s very little professionalism or civility for that matter.
I do wish each and every one of you absolutely the best life has to offer and hope you all find what you’re looking for here, but I’m done with it.
Libby, I seem to remember you calling Ralph some nasty names in prior articles. In fact, you call most Conservatives nasty names and had knock down drag outs with Bob when you didn’t get your way.
I never alled Ralph any nasty names. He’s never said anything to me to warrant that. I’m perfectly respectful to everyone until they throw the first punch. Then it’s on like donkey kong.
In fact, I’ve extended the olive branch to you and Sarge on more than one occasion (as has Ron) and you both have spit in my face. You give as good as you get, Agent, so quit playing the victim card.
You were not respectful to my first few comments lately.
You also got involved in comments that didn’t involve you and tried to spark a war on birth control that I had no desire to comment regarding.
You are always the instigator. Not the one who is attacked.
You always start with insulting tones.
August 26, 2014 at 6:13 pm
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Unfortunately Bob, you and Libby have a history like she has with me. I can go on any article about any subject, make a reasonable comment and get attacked immediately because I am a Conservative. I do remember you wearing her down on several blogs and then she would scream, call you names and refuse to answer because she had no answers to your logic and presentation of the facts. Good old Ron seems to have disappeared and won’t take you on with his bogus posts either.
August 27, 2014 at 8:42 am
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I love to make every post about myself
August 27, 2014 at 3:48 pm
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Bob – it is you that set the tone of our relationship several years ago when you constantly bullied and insulted me. So no, I will not respect someone that doesn’t, and never has, shown me any respect.
August 28, 2014 at 12:47 pm
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Nope Libby.
I don’t have time for you. In every comment you felt it was ok to put “style” as you called it (slurs, bigoted comments, generalizations against republicans) and I responded insulting you.
I did not bully you. And I’m tired of this. Adios!
I’m with you Ralph; my jaw has dropped this past week due to this terrible fiasco. I have been reading Advisen Professionals and get about the same content article wise and the comments are insurance related and seem to stay on a professional level. I’ve said before, we don’t all have to agree, how boring would that be…but we should all be respectful of each other as human beings and fellow insurance professionals. I too wish all the best and hope one day you kids can get along! Take care IJ :)
Don’t forget NASCAR. For those of us with family trees that branch out, we subsidize the Idiocracy 500. Pay for gas at the pump, and a portion of your price covers Billbob-Lee’s 200 trips around a circle with all left turns no less. Don’t forget that a portion of it is paid through the defense budget with the left over jet fuel not to mention the ridiculous fly overs.
I personally think everything should be paid for by your health ins, your home insurance, your flood insurance and your auto insurance policies. That way the premiums can skyrocket and my commissions get bigger and bigger.
I can then move into a larger home in a larger waterfront gated community and drive nicer cars. Thanks libtards! I really appreciate the raise.
You see someone has to pay for what’s covered and that someone is the middleclass. When you libtards figure that out…and you wont because being stupid is like being dead…maybe things will change and the middleclass will once again get the pay raise it deserves.
There are many, many items that could be stricken from the budget to pay for healthcare for our citizens. Instead we give welfare payments to giant corporations, bail out AIG and others, let the richest of the rich pay a fraction of what they should on their income tax, and send our military out to police the world. We just don’t have our priorities straight as a nation. We need to start taking care of our infrastucture and our citizens instead of catering to corporate lobbyists and passing bills full of pork.
Jack, the biggest mistake booger’s mother ever made was not aborting him when she had the chance after finding out she was pregnant. Perhaps he was dropped on his head when he was a baby and he has been deranged ever since.
You see, someone has to pay for those tax cuts to the wealthy, and that someone is the middle class. When the teatards figure that out..and you won’t, because being stupid is like being dead…maybe things will change, and the middle class will once again get the pay raise it deserves.
No. Someone has to pay for unreasonable spending, and buying bank loans so that the banks can lower interest rates. Quiz question: Are interest rates really low if tax spending is lowering them, which has to be taxed out of us?
QE, Twist, etc.
Someone has to pay when you tax the wealthy too much.
You are too young to know this, but: The quality of life has gone WAY up since we lowered tax rates. Every single poor person I have ever known owns multiple hd tvs. Are you aware in the 60’s you were lucky to have one? Every poor person I know has a cell phone and high speed internet. Every poor person I have known owns consoles or video gaming of some degree. In the 70’s, before the tax cuts, video game consoles were a luxury.
Every poor person I have ever known owns a computer. That one is self explanatory. Even in the 80’s a house hold computer was rare.
Food recently went way up in cost on the other hand. This was Obama’s fault, and is a big strain on the poor.
Housing costs are way up. This was from spending on Obama’s part to inflate the market. This is not from tax cuts.
The cost of every luxury item is down since even 2000. If our income was equal, with the low cost to make goods, we would be fine, as long as Obama had let the housing costs come down and didn’t inflate the cost of food.
Those two are the real problem.
Not health insurance.
The goal should be to lower the cost of living, not to tax and spend.
You are relating modern day electronics with days before they were readily available.
Poor people may own computers and cell phones and TV’s, but rich people own the latest, greatest of these in much higher quantities.
Having a computer and cell phone today is being a member of society.
And you should get of IJ entirely since you steal more than my moniker boogereater. Go blog on Media Matters or Moveon.org and be with like minded trolls.
What did he steal from you? If anything he gave you something. A couple of laughs. Something you’re not qualified to get on your own since you have no sense of humor.
Bob, just look for the nasty insults and a sexual inuendos on most posts and it is booger personified. He really has a hang up and is probably impotent or gay or both.
August 27, 2014 at 9:00 am
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Gay = Praising Ronald Reagan and talking about him like he’s George Washington.
Impotent = Liking your own posts 100 times only seconds after posting just so you can “get it up”
August 27, 2014 at 1:06 pm
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See what I mean Bob. Stealing my moniker to post his trash.
August 27, 2014 at 3:01 pm
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“…and is probably impotent or gay or both.”
How is this comment NOT a nasty insult?
You are not innocent Agent.
August 27, 2014 at 3:17 pm
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Cliven, you are no longer in control of the moniker “Agent”. No one has taken your moniker, we are simply using it as we choose. Until you can furnish a copyright for this name, you are fecking SOL. I’m sure Cliven is available and surely fits your personality better. At this point I think you are in the lowest percentile bracket in terms of IQ in Texico. This website pertains to insurance, not politics, and it sure as hell is not an extension of Sunday School. If you can’t figure that out, then you need to go back to selling vacuum cleaners. I can’t imagine the number of pictures you have on your agency wall near your shingles, of you and all your dog catching buddies. Your front yard must look like a NASCAR track with all the sponsorship you do for them. Plus being in Texico, there has to be a few tires here and there.
August 27, 2014 at 3:37 pm
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Lucy – not to mention his comment that he should have been aborted by his mother.
But we are the ugly, hurtful ones on here. It’s just more hypocrisy from the right. Business as usual folks.
August 28, 2014 at 9:39 am
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Hey Bob, This is really me. One of my friends sent me a good one. Picture and elderly gentleman. It read – My uncle Frank from Chicago voted straight Republican all his life until he died. Since then, he has voted Democrat in every election. Sounds about right, doesn’t it?
August 28, 2014 at 12:20 pm
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Of course you would have photos of elderly people
August 27, 2014 at 5:41 pm
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Why do I get a picture of the actor Steve Buschemi with a mouth of rotten teeth when I think of you booger?
Cliven, my guess is that you are looking in the mirror while you are brushing your tooth, that’s why. We have the same moniker, but we have different appearances. I think you need a larger pair of pants. It’s too tight around your FUPA and you are crushing your brains.
August 26, 2014 at 5:01 pm
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You know, the day just wouldn’t be complete without ribbing Agent. I think deep down we really like each other. He’s like a father figure to me.
Libby, if I ever had a daughter resembling you and your attitude and mean spirit, she would have been disowned a long time ago, cut out of the will and hopefully lived out of state where we wouldn’t have to see each other again. Thankfully, I have two wonderful daughters who are polar opposites of you and are as Conservative as I am. Have fun trolling. You deserve to be with booger and Planet since they are like minded trolls.
Libby, if I ever had a daughter resembling me, my attitude, and mean spirit, she would have been disemboweled a long time ago, cut out of the will and hopefully lived in a different county where we wouldn’t have to see each other again. Thankfully, I have two wonderful (jazz hands) daughters who are bipolar and are as Ultra-Conservative as I am. Have fun trolling. I’m going to rifle through their purses again.
Libby, nothing hurts your feelings like Bob’s posts which consistently get your goat and you end up screaming at him on IJ. How do you like boogerthief’s post? He conveniently put his own slant on it. The epitome of low life. Enjoy!
Bob doesn’t hurt my feelings. You’d have to care about someone to let them hurt your feelings.
August 28, 2014 at 12:48 pm
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You would have to be a bad person to say what you just said.
This is old.
August 28, 2014 at 1:35 pm
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All I have to say to you, is this needs to be more civil. We can’t have people running around saying to care about what someone has to say you have to care about them. That’s basically very hate filled.
Perhaps the following will stir some peace. I am sure you have heard it.
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People are often unreasonable, illogical and self centered;
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you’ve got anyway.
You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and your God;
It was never between you and them anyway.”
August 28, 2014 at 2:23 pm
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The day you speak civilly to me, I will do so to you. The day you stop bringing up mistakes I made years ago in an attempt to belittle me, I will act with more kindness. The day you stop insulting me and calling me names, I will do likewise. The day you stop calling me demonic and satanic because I don’t believe what you believe, I will start responding to you what you say. In other words, quit judging me and thinking you are better than me and we can have a reasonable conversation. In addition, I don’t always want a “debate.” Sometimes it’s OK to just speak your mind &/or an opinion. That’s what these forums are for.
August 29, 2014 at 5:42 pm
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Agent and Bob are my favorite examples of conservatism. With Bob, we have religion guiding his vote in the form of anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage fervor. With Agent, it’s just good old fashioned racism in his hatred of all things Obama.
Sorry to you both, the world is moving on and your positions are going to be causally tossed aside, without even a second thought. It will be slow, but in the end, Libby’s side will win this argument. Voters under 30 vote Democratic by a factor of 4 to 1. And the share of those voters that believe in God? All time lows heading lower.
In fifteen years, universal healthcare, abortion and gay marriage will be ironclad legal rights in all 50 states. And the country will be stronger because of it.
And it will happen in spite of you.
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Rite on!
August 26, 2014 at 10:54 pm
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Libby, if I ever had a daughter resembling you and your attitude and mean spirit, she would have been disowned a long time ago, cut out of the will and hopefully lived out of state where we wouldn’t have to see each other again. Thankfully, I have two wonderful daughters who are polar opposites of you and are as Conservative as I am. Have fun trolling. You deserve to be with booger and Planet since they are like minded trolls.
Bob, just look for the nasty insults and a sexual inuendos on most posts and it is booger personified. He really has a hang up and is probably impotent or gay or both.
Jack, the biggest mistake booger’s mother ever made was not aborting him when she had the chance after finding out she was pregnant. Perhaps he was dropped on his head when he was a baby and he has been deranged ever since.
Hey Behemoth, I think it is unfair that I have to pay for over the counter Alieve’s for my back pain. Every plan should include that, right?
Wow, look at all my comments. No WONDER I can’t get one anymore, I’m so stressed out!
Hey Txmouth,
I saw a good political cartoon tonight. It was St. Ronald Reagan on the top of a balcony with his zipper down and his pale, wrinkly 2 inch limper hanging taking a leak on top of a poor black family who sat homeless, cold and starving on the street below. St. Reagan was looking behind him toward the deck talking to the top Republican booze hounds of the day, and the up-and-comers like George H W Bush, and he was telling them as he laughed, “And then I said it would trickle down.” Oh, they were all busting a gut over that one! And hey, at least for a little bit Ol’ Ronnie’s warm golden shower would warm that family up for a bit. Am I right? Too bad Ronnie Raygun isn’t still around to piss on us all. At least we still have his economic plan to do that to us.
That is a wonderful beautiful cartoon. Unfortunately for all of us, St Ronnie and his minions are still with us in spirit. The Niagara Falls of urine will be with us eternally with his Trickle Down Sodomy. I wonder who they next republicant actor will be to run for office. Was Clint Eastwood’s skit with a chair an indicator that he will be running in 2016? No we need to find a muscleman like Ahnold so imply we are strong. I sure love me Fred Thompson. He’s so broke he’s selling reverse mortgages on the talkin picture tube and even gives a shout out to St Ronnie. Here’s a beautiful clip to share.
Hey Planet, did you ever get out and pee on Chick Fil A’s building like you threatened to do or were you afraid of getting caught and put in the clinker?
See what happens when you learn a new word but it’s actually the wrong word. I think this is from someone from Texico. Who can find bob’s mistake? We are taking caller number 5. All you would have to do is copy and paste anyone of Cliven’s posts and you would be able to get it right!
“I am so sick and tired of Booger littering IJ with his sick, immature DRIBBLE. He has no intelligence whatsoever and cannot say anything that is meaningful. He must work in the mail room or better yet, cleaning the bathrooms. Booger you are a disgrace to Insurance Professionals and since you have Libby and Planet as your pathetic cheering squad, they are too!”
Actually, it is what occurs when you try to use slang to call a State Texico as an insult.
Texico is two states, one used as a hate reference to Texico New Mexico, basically calling it a dirt town. Which in itself is really rude to Texico the city in New Mexico.
Texico is sometimes also used as a slang to insult Texas for being the home state of company Texaco, which is homed in Texas.
Texico is also a slang insult used in the West to mock Texas for being “pro” “CO” as in Corporation.
The word is not new to me. Your use of it is not exactly clear.
I’m assuming your use is the first. As I said before with the winky. However, I know you don’t like gas, so I’m also assuming you mean the second as well.
Texico is a slam to a colony that depends heavily on the United States to fund its “cowboy” lifestyle. It is a dirty region of North America, it is a region that is a fascist corporate owned territory. Countries like the United States, Canada, and England use “Common Law” as the law of the land. Texico uses their own version called WWDCD or “What Would Davey Crockett Do?
bob, I personally want to thank you for your Captain Obvious references and hope the best for you in your future endeavors as the next spokesperson for hotels.com. Your analytical skills will not cut it the insurance world, especially regarding your analysis of poor people, home computers in the 80’s, smartphones, TV’s, etc. If you are willing to move to West, Texico, I think Cliven needs helps scooping up the rest of the fertilizer from that mishap at his insurancestry.
bob refuses to recognize there is corporate welfare in this country or that military bases are a form of federal assistance. Be prepared for a long response from him outlying why these notions are falsehoods.
I don’t read Bob The Bully and haven’t for maybe a year or better now, but after reading your post, I don’t have to. That is HILARIOUS! WWDCD – I am rolling. And then, hotels.com, 80’s home computers – man, give this guy a stage and a mic! You should educate Bob on how Texas = Middle East should you decide to engage his name calling.
If a closely held corp, or a non-profit opt out, they should see their insurance premium rise. By not offering the coverage, they will experience more child births, which are expensive. If Uncle Sam, or the Insurance Company is going to foot the bill, and provide the coverage to the EE’s, then why should US tax payers, or US Insurance customers foot the bill.
Either way you look at it someone is taking it in the pants… except for the Non-Profit, or closely held corp.
In reality, their insurance premiums won’t rise, because the employee will still obtain contraceptives. The only change? WE will be paying for it and the closely-held corp will get the benefit of lower premiums. This sucks.
Hi Libby, I agree that their premiums won’t rise… That said, I still think they should.
“Religious objections” to providing contraceptives should = accepting the risks of not providing contraceptives. Why is it that a Non-Profit, or Closely held corp can transfer their costs due to “religious objections.” If they object, then perhaps US Citizens can chose to object to their Tax Exempt status.
Right on Producer. You’re #1 in my book!
Obama said the family will save $2,500 per year on Obamacare premiums. We are still looking for that savings. Oops! What did you say? Premiums escalating? What happened to that promise made 39 times on tape?
What does that have to do with this? This is about religious-scammer-scumbags trying to get over on the rest of us, as usual.
Feeding and housing people is very expensive too!!! I wonder what we should do with them?
The first thing we should do is get the people who don’t belong back to their own country.
Hey Trust me, does that apply to booger as well? He certainly doesn’t belong in this country. I hear that Venezuela is nice this time of year. You can work in the field all day for 2 squares. Beans and rice and beans and rice.
If I remember correctly Obama told the Catholic bishops they had nothing to worry about when the affordable care act came out. The white house is worried about the elections coming up – this is political.
Does Medicaid and medicare pay for b control?
knowall, Not sure about Medicaid since it doesn’t pay much, but Medicare definitely doesn’t pay for birth control since women into their sixties and seventies don’t worry about that at all. It is the Obamacare bunch that thinks we should have birth control at all ages even if the woman is far beyond child bearing years. They also want it for young men in the plan. That is funny, isn’t it?
What’s funny about a man taking responsibility for contraceptives? You think it’s all the woman’s responsibility? And yet, you don’t want women to have access to it. That’s pretty f’d up.
My daughter is a Pharmacist at Wal-Mart’s. I told her that he was not going to get any of my front seat tickets to the tent revival last month if she continued to sell birth control. One day when I was sifting through her purse to see if she had any of her own pills, I stole her keys and broke into the Wal-Mart’s stock room and replaced all the birth control pills with mini Mentos candies. This big burly security guard shined his light in the room so I had to swallow the evidence. Now I cry all the time and feel bloated.
LOL!!!
I should have been more specific on the medicare coverage question: does federal disability (pretty much anyone who has reached the age of reason can apply, as elibigle?) cover b control?
I hear you, producer #1 – we will get to pay more because groups like Hobby Lobby want to force their religious beliefs onto their employees. Can you point to the part in The Bible that says, “Thou Shalt Not Wear a Jimmyhat?”
Wow talk about having it backwards, they are working there by choice. They are not enslaved, unless it’s by the US tax system.
“Thou shalt not wear a Jimmyhat as you must drop out of school and work at Hobby Lobby for the rest of your days” Hannitites 24:7:365
Planet, per Ecclesiates 10:2, the heart of the wise inclines to the right, the heart of the fool to the left. How is that for a bible quotation?
Jesus said separate the goats from the sheep. Goats to the left, sheep to the right. He told the disciples who had been fishing all night from the left side of the boat and they had caught not one fish to throw their nets over the right side and their nets were overflowing. This should be a message to you, but it will not register, I am sure of that.
Separation of Church and State – how’s that for a Constitutional quotation? But, it will not register, I am sure of that.
Where do the specific words “separation of church and state” appear in the Constitution? Reference, please! Thank you….
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof …” and Article VI specifies that “no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
I asked for a reference to the SPECIFIC WORDS “separation of church and state,” which is NOT found anywhere in the Constitution. But I’m glad you noticed that the phrase “prohibiting the free exercise thereof” is in the Constitution. Liberals seem to forget that phrase all the time.
Since when is Hobby Lobby a religious institution?
What does Hobby Lobby being or not being a “religious institution” have to do with the wording of the First Amendment? The words “religious institution” ALSO do not appear in that document.
You’re just playing semantics with me now, Connie. The first amendment says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.” Hobby Lobby is NOT an establishment of religion and therefore should not be awarded exemption from the ACA as such. I know. SCOTUS thinks otherwise. I get it. I just don’t agree with it.
Libby—the potus doesn’t follow the Constitution, so why are you quoting it??!?? Isn’t it moot if the pos-potus doesn’t follow our laws???
Well, Liberal, I can’t agree with you on that. If he had done anything, just one small thing, that was illegal impeachment charges would have been brought before you could say House of Representatives. They haven’t been brought, and are not going to brought, because he hasn’t done anything illegal.
I get you guys don’t like him and he’s lied about some things, but what politian hasn’t? If that was criteria for impeachment, they’d have all been impeached. Read my lips….
That doesn’t even make sense! “Hobby Lobby is not an establishment of religion.” “Establishment of religion” means Congress shall not force people to obey or follow any particular religion – they can’t ESTABLISH that the “national religion” is Christianity or Buddhism or Hinduism or Judaism or whatever. It doesn’t mean “a business establishment” as in “a place of business,” it means “to establish” as in “to bring something about.” It’s a verb, not a noun! That’s not “semantics,” that’s just correctly understanding the meaning of the word as it’s used in context! Goodness!
Please don’t quote Scripture out of context like this. I may be moderate politically, but I am serious about my faith. These passages have as much to do with Hannity vs Maddow as the prayer of Jabez was meant to be a get rich scheme.
Contraception is something that people should be paying for out of pocket. Insurance was never supposed to pay for every little thing, if car insurance was like this flat tires or windshield wipers would be covered and the price of those items would skyrocket. This country has become stupid writ large.
Actually, the advent of the HMO created an insurance that does cover “every little thing”.
Prior to the ACA debacle, people could choose the cheaper option of major medical or whatever the other choices are. I always paid extra to have the HMO. I like knowing exactly how much each prescription or office visit will cost.
The fusion of religion and government continues on a dangerous path. Don’t think Jefferson, Madison, et al, had this in mind.
I think you are right retired. A free society as envisioned by the founding fathers did not include government mandates or control of industries to micromanage the population. That is not how the left sees it, but then they don’t believe in the Constitution it seems.
Also, they are mis guiding the public with these statements….They DO provide Contraception (prevention) – (16 out of the 20), however, their objection was to the ones that are partial abortion pills, like the “Morning-After” pill and that breed. So to say they don’t provide contracption at all is a mis-statement.
Absolutely correct Just A Mom. This thing has been twisted ever since the law was passed.
Not entirely correct, Mom. Hobby Lobby was only talking 4 out of 20, but the law allows total exclusion of all contraceptives if desired.
The morning after pill does not abort a fetus. The misconception of contraception continues to beg for education. Oh, and not all contraception is taken solely for the purpose of preventing pregnancy. But, I realize those facts do not fit the Hannity narrative.
Yet they didn’t have any objections to forced abortions in China, their supplier. Interesting. So government-sponsored forced abortions of a fully-formed, ACTUAL fetus are ok, but the prevention of the implantation of a few cells is wrong. Interesting. Also, their “god” commits abortions all the time (called mis-carriages).
That’s OK. It’s also OK to execute people that have allegedly broken the law. It’s also OK to go to war and kill people on the “other side.” It’s alwo OK to shoot someone that even steps onto your property, whether they mean you harm or not. These are murders that are OK with these fruit-loops, but not the scraping of a few cells from a woman’s uterus.
Oh! And don’t forget, stalking, attacking, and killing a teenager with a pack of Skittles in his pocket.
And another round of pointless arguments begins. Nothing more important to the folks in DC then free birth control.
Their priories are way out of line. They continue to divide the nation. The rest of the world continues to laugh at us. And Obama is worried about birth control.
It appears the right-wing religious fanatics are the ones worried about birth control. Not Obama.
Hi Libby I would like to share with you a beautiful political cartoon my mini golf buddy sent to my telex. It shows a republican on each of Obama’s shoulders. One would tell Obama to do one thing, they the other would tell him to do the opposite. Each would get mad at the other. Then one of the republicans started to tea bag the other and Obama finally woke up saying, “why am I letting these idiots tell me what to do? I should have gone with my instincts all along!’ Then Obama popped their heads off like zits. The puss went everywhere and we were all happily ever after.
No, Libby – it’s us “right-wing religious fanatics” that object to paying for and providing four (out of twenty) drugs that are specifically used to induce an abortion. We “right-wing religious fanatics” believe that the unborn child has rights also. The right to live.
Good one Some Guy. It won’t make an impact on the left wing secular anti-religious fanatics, but good try.
Hi Some guy. Your name reminds me of a sailor that I used to pal around with during my time in Laos. His name was Crème of Sum Yung Guy
Dum Some – This law applies to ALL forms of contraception, not just the 4 objected to by Hobby Lobby. Do some research for God’s sake.
A zygote &/or an embryo is not an unborn child, either. It’s an unborn child when it can survive outside the womb.
And I know all of you right-wing religious fanatic GUYS would like to stomp all over a woman’s right to choose, but the right to choose IS A RIGHT. Get over it.
As far as paying for it, health insurance premiums actually go DOWN when you include birth control. A 12-pack of pills is a helluva lot cheaper than birthing a baby. But since all you right-wing fanatic GUYS refuse to support a woman’s right, all WE taxpayers will be paying for it. Way to go righties. More sucking off the federal tit. Hypocrites! You all make me sick.
Libby
Have you ever seen what’s left of the zygote and/or embryo after an abortion. It looks a heck of a lot like a miniature baby…except all in pieces because it’s arms and legs have been ripped off.
No, Bob, I haven’t seen a zygote and neither have you because it is a single cell formed as the result of the merging of an egg cell and a sperm cell. It’s a fertilized egg, with the potential to develop into an embryo.
An embryo is an organism in the early stages of development which cannot survive on its own. Between the embryo stage and birth, it is a fetus.
I think you are confusing zygote and embryo with fetus.
Actually zygotes look like gummy bears. I went to the Piggly Wiggly and bought 4 pounds of them the other day. I like to line them up on my desk like toy soldiers and play war. Usually the green bears win and I like to eat the red ones.
Some Guy – that would be some trick for the morning after pill. How long does it take for the cellular transformation to actually look like a baby? I think it’s at least a month, but it’s been a long time since I took an anatomy class.
KY – “Some Guy” is actually “bob”
FFA, did you notice the stupid moniker thief troll Booger’s latest attempt at humor. I am sure Planet, Libby & a few other trolls thought it was funny. I agree that it is pointless to keep arguing the same thing on every article about Obamacare. It keeps imploding, people are withdrawing, premiums not paid, having to go into re-enrollment because the site is so screwed up and all they care about is forcing employers to pay for birth control and abortions by pill. It is disgusting to say the least.
FAA, Obama is not worried about birth control, he is worried about providing basic medical coverage and services to all Americans, not just those who are fortunate enough to get it provided for them. It’s the GOP who wants to limit birth control and basic medical coverage.
Please try to get FFA’s moniker right Celtica. The FAA is the Federal Aviation Administration and I don’t think they are interested in your post.
That was kind of cranky of you, Captain. Or is this Agent playing the moniker stealing game?
It’s Agent or some other Neocon.
I wonder how big of a baby Agent is when he gets BOR’d.
I can’t imagine. Of course he’ll say he never gets BOR’d.
Are you two implying that Original Agent sounds like a broken record?
That or a Myna bird.
Yep, that was pretty cranky of Planet Captain.
So, my religion which is entirely made up just like everybody elses, believes that Xtians shouldn’t be given any medical insurance at all as they can just pray. As everyone knows, prayer works all the time unless Gawd decides you or your children should suffer needlessly, then he/she decides not to heal you.Then it’s Gawd’s will you know.You’re not disagreeing with Gawd are you?
Why can’t he heal amputees?
What’s next? Sex changes paid for by your employer! Don’t be a transgender hater people….just stfu and pay for it.
Jack, do you remember that soldier who released all the military secrets a while back. He is in prison now and is demanding a sex change operation. They will probably give it to him. Will he be put in a women’s section or a man’s section of the prison? I say put him in with Tyrone and he can learn the new meaning of “kid”.
Hi Libby, I would like you to take a wonderful moment to review the latest post from Original Agent. It seems our friend from the Colony of Texico is clearly a racist. Here is some of the latest drivel that has been posted by this Neanderthal. Please do not refer to rubes as Opie Griffith for that is racist.
“Will he be put in a women’s section or a man’s section of the prison? I say put him in with Tyrone and he can learn the new meaning of “kid”.
He’s absolutely a bigot, I know that for a fact. He and Sarge say terrible things about Muslims, gays, and other minorities. Sarge stays away from blacks, though, and remains very incensed that I source-quoted the KKK once. I think we can draw our own conclusions on that one.
Okay, Libby, Planet, Booger – I was wrong. For the first time in my life I actually researched something using that there Google and found out that the morning after pill does NOT actually cause an abortion. Unless we want to change the definition of abortion so we can fit that pill in my nice little mental box of hating things for wrong reasons. You know, where I keep my hatred of The President.
Back to censoring, I see. There is a word for people who try to “fix” narrative rather than engage in it. That word is ‘tool’, and you are certainly acting like one.
Hi Planet, boy that idiots on the far right surely is a stupid doofus isn’t he? It reminds me of this political cartoon I received when I was getting my oil changed on my Rascal Scooter named Skeeter. It was a bunch of people wearing sheets walking through a desert. All of a sudden a pick up truck with gun turrets drives by and stops. The driver of the pick up gets out and says, “Anyone know how I get to the rally?” The first guy takes off his hood, and says, “It’s over yonder, 15 miles from Old Man’s Farm.” The second guy says “No it a’int, it’s 12 miles from the Waltones’ Farm.” The moral of the story is there is no relevance to anything from the far right.
Oh, that is a hilarious cartoon, Agent! Might as well be from the far side – ahahahahaha. I think you should go pat yourself on the back now.
Planet, you are so stupid you don’t know boogers moniker thievery posting his insults. Congratulations on your stupidity. Now, you have permission to go pee on Chick Fil A or Hobbby Lobby store buildings.
You’re the stupid one Agent. We’re mocking you.
I love how just anyone can buy an insurancestry (insurance ministry agency). Do they have ANY laws in Texico Cliven?
Ding ding ding ding ding Libby. And might I add, OH SNAP! Agent/Real Agent/Original Agent (what’s next, Authentic Agent?), go ahead and play your thumbwar. We know your childish ways.
My buddy booger and I think we have a new cottage industry going stealing monikers from IJ posters and posting trash on every comment. So what if people think we are doofus idiots. We like that title.
What I mean to say under Planet’s moniker was said Log Cabin industry. That’s what us neo cons like to do behind closed doors. We will be having a prostate tickle fight over labor day.
I can’t even believe what has come of this site.
Agent and Booger, stop with the moniker back and forth.
Libby, stay consistent. I don’t know what has driven you off the rails lately but surely even you know you’re not making sense.
Planet: The morning after pill stops a child from being born. Whether it’s a fetus or not, it end the start of a life. It’s a matter of semantics of which you speak, not a matter of “science”. Science says that the egg is on the path to become a baby. You’re stopping a baby from being born. End of story. Semantics and OPINION comes in after that as to whether or not that is killing. Not science. Your OPINION is that you aren’t. My opinion is you absolutely are. You’re a man of God too, which really makes no sense on that matter.
As soon as a baby starts developing, in the absence of your intervention it would be born, and God did for a fact give that baby a soul.
He doesn’t go, woah woah, take the soul back Jesus, don’t you get it, they didn’t want that baby!
And don’t mock me or call me a religious zealot on that one. I’m talking in the perspective of your beliefs. If you believe in God, you believe God makes babies. Run with it. Stop with the dribble and typical bible bashing, people bashing, I’m so much better than other religious people crap.
“Your OPINION is that you aren’t. My opinion is you absolutely are.”
Exactly. It’s your opinion. And as long as it is not illegal, a woman’s right to choose is her RIGHT.
I find it funny that it’s usually MEN that have a problem with this issue, when the number of deadbeat dads is outrageous. I guess it has something to do with your manhood and the fact that you were able to sire a child that makes you so engaged in the topic; when in fact it is out of your hands and none of your business. That must be the reason you’re so against birth control. You can’t CONTROL it. I’ll say it again, get over it.
You are right Libby that a woman’s right is to choose birth control and abortion. However, an employer should have the right to choose the benefits offered under their health plan. If it doesn’t include what you think it should, you are “free” to seek other employment that does offer it.
Did I even just take the argument against birth control or your “rights”?
Have I ever said a woman shouldn’t be allowed to have birth control?
It’s funny because I’ve really avoided it. I’ve told you to call it what it is, and I’ve told Planet to stop acting like his opinion is fact and stop insulting people saying they don’t know science when it isn’t a matter of science.
I have also said that birth control being on insurance policies doesn’t make sense and to pay for it yourself.
That last one in particular seems to spit in the face of your narrative that I’m against your “right”
Also, murder isn’t a right.
I will finally make commentary on this though I have avoided it.
That baby is not yours. It is Gods. You didn’t choose to have it. God created to make it. As soon as it stirs in growth, it was stirred in growth by god. As soon as the growth ends, it was ended in growth by you.
And that baby, which would have been born in the absence of your intervention, had it’s life ended. End of story.
It is NOT your right, it is not YOUR child even after birth. It never will be. It never was. And I won’t hear your bull regarding it.
God cannot create a baby, because he doesn’t exist. No one should get special treatment under the law, just because they have a delusion about some magical sky-fairy who lives on a cloud and kills babies by causing miscarriages to happen.
Or wars.
In the absence of a God, which I started agnostic and still against abortion,
A human embryo is a human embryo for what? A human baby. You can’t tell me any circumstance of stopping the development of a human embryo is not murder.
You act like it’s magic solely for the religious folk, and then ignore science yourself.
Also, God does exist. Get over it. I struggled myself with that for over 10 years. Pay attention, and then ponder how an evolving creature that duplicated as a human embryo does, ever got to that point. Trial and error? Even being the slightest off a human baby wouldn’t survive. The path to carbon becoming a carbon based life form, is simply impossible with evolution in the “in between” stages. Think it through some time. You’ll see what I mean. The feeding tube to a child for example, without it they would die. When did the feeding tube come into existence? When did a baby start to be developed without dying from the absence of one?
It’s absolutely science.
Also pay attention to the people out there who feel the need to insult religion. That’s one of the biggest reasons I believe. Debating as an agnostic.
God and religion has not caused wars.
People do.
I am tired of this argument.
It’s the most bigoted one out there, and you Libby, believe in a God. We have talked on it. So it is also extremely elitist and hypocrite in nature.
Bob, I see that Libby still thinks you are taking her rights away from her. You can explain this a thousand different ways and she still wouldn’t get it.
Bob – Don’t you remember the good old days when women had no rights? They couldn’t vote or go out in public unescorted. Oh how I long for those days. My wife is old school. She cooks and cleans and keeps her trap shut until I tell her she can open it. She’s a good woman, not like that liberal troll Libby. My wife serves me my dinner while I’m watching Honey Boo boo in my Rascal Scooter, Skeeter. If I don’t like what she cooks, I’ll throw the plate against the wall and she’ll rush to make me something different. Since she’s Filippino, she know how to please a man, if you know what I mean. Long time. Winky, winky.
I remember when I first opened that crate at Ming Lih popped out. We said “I do” about 3 minutes later after we got the straw off her. Those were the days, mail order brides fresh from the South Pacific. Got laid that day for the first time ever. Back then we used pebbles in the cooter as birth control.
Libby, it is not the good old days in the Muslim world when women cannot go out into public unescorted, have no rights at all, get stoned or honor killed at the drop of a hat, abused, raped and their good husbands can have several wives if they want them. Keep them barefoot and pregnant and turn the kids into little terrorists. Yes, they are really nice people.
Another Texico = Middle East comparison?
Sounds like your kind of place, Agent. Why don’t you move there?
Oh! That’s right. You already live there. It’s called Texico!
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I just don’t care to. I didn’t even take up the argument right then about whether or not she should get birth control.
I told Planet that he cannot claim that these religious folk are ignoring science. No form of science says that a fertilized egg is not going to become a baby. No scientist would seriously say that stopping that egg from growing is stopping the egg from becoming a life. Stopping life from coming into existence is what even science has to call this process of “abortion”. Aborting what? Aborting a baby, a life, a fetus, or an egg of human nature from growing.
And that there is where semantics come in. It makes perfect sense to call the ending of a life murder. It makes sense in some odd way for Planet to not call it murder of a “baby” only in terms of semantics. But yet he calls the one who calls it murder “scientifically” inaccurate and suggests they go back to school.
How can a Christian argue against their own people like that?
The best biblical quote that Planet should look at, since he loves attacking his own people:
“Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me?” And he said, “Who are You, Lord?” And He said, “I am Jesus whom you are persecuting,…”
Attacking Christians in the name of Science, especially when it comes to aborting God’s children to be, is surely not a good thing.
Planet is no Christian. He loves to attack and get on the band wagon.
Should read
” No scientist would seriously say that stopping that egg from growing is NOT stopping the egg from becoming a life. “
If you want to call it murder, go ahead. As long as it’s legal, it’s within our rights to choose to or not to have an abortion. Deal with it.
Do you abstain from eating pork and eating shell-fish? If you have a garden, do you plant each item in a separate field? Have you ever worked on the “Sabbath”? If you have, then you shall surely be put to death. Or do you just pick and choose which parts of the bible to follow and which parts are ok to ignore?
You are the reason I believe in God. You are hilarious.
What part of you’re talking to an agnostic who made these arguments himself 10 years ago do you not understand? You say what you just said because you have a “need” to destroy religion, despite it’s good affects. Does whether or not one eats pork matter in the bible? Or does judge not lest thee be judged and the moral principles?
I’ve heard this argument before. You’re too young to have heard the other side. Thank you for revealing your age. It is only popular in the younger age groups.
I follow every section to the best of my ability. When it comes to the parts of the bible concerning pork, you might want to do a google search on tribal law, and which sections of the bible are talking about “commandments” and which are talking about “health”.
“EX” agnostic that should say.
My choice to become a person of religion was rather recent.
If we want to talk about my history I’m more than willing. I’ve done it before you just haven’t listened.
Do I pick and choose what I follow in the bible…What a laugh.
There is a non-christian being a christian zealot. Basically you said “you can’t be christian unless you are a perfect christian!” (disregarding that you don’t even know the theology of the bible regarding pork. Go take classes on it. It is not “ignored” in hypocrite fashion. I don’t have time to explain it to you. Just know the Kashrut laws are not commandments. Eating un clean meats so to speak is not the same as breaking a commandment.
I bet money you don’t even know the name of the laws you are talking about. You pulled out a bible and said “ah ha! See this one???” You didn’t study it. You didn’t look into why they exist. You didn’t look into how they were integrated, and what context, you knee jerk reaction said “oh my! Something to battle religion with!” (ergo why I said you are the reason I believe in God, Satan is why you do that. When you wise up you’ll realize that. I didn’t dumb down with my 156 IQ, I wised up.)
It’s not my job to convert you.
I wasn’t converted by some person talking to me.
Things happened. All around me. Some were good. Some were bad. I didn’t necessarily choose to become Christian. It was…Put there for me.
You might like this some day, when and if you have a life that pulls you to God.
“Being a Christian is not the result of an ethical choice, or a lofty idea, but the encounter with an event, a person, which gives new horizon and a decisive direction”
Agent, show me one post where I stole your moniker. If you want to steal mine, that’s okay. I know you secretely want to be me. Are you going to censor yourself then?
well, that’s it. I’m officially done with the comments section on the IJ. I used to come to this site with an open mind to hopefully get informed and try and see things a different way. Not anymore; this comments section has become Romper Room. It’s nothing but personal attacks, downvoting to hide comments, and hijacking of monikers. My 7- and 3- year olds play nicer than this.
On some boards, you can’t post unless you’re a registered user and even then your comments are subject to moderation. Call it censorship if you want, but on a site for insurance PROFESSIONALS, there’s very little professionalism or civility for that matter.
I do wish each and every one of you absolutely the best life has to offer and hope you all find what you’re looking for here, but I’m done with it.
Sorry to see you go, Ralph. I always enjoyed your posts.
Libby, I seem to remember you calling Ralph some nasty names in prior articles. In fact, you call most Conservatives nasty names and had knock down drag outs with Bob when you didn’t get your way.
I never alled Ralph any nasty names. He’s never said anything to me to warrant that. I’m perfectly respectful to everyone until they throw the first punch. Then it’s on like donkey kong.
In fact, I’ve extended the olive branch to you and Sarge on more than one occasion (as has Ron) and you both have spit in my face. You give as good as you get, Agent, so quit playing the victim card.
Wrong.
You were not respectful to my first few comments lately.
You also got involved in comments that didn’t involve you and tried to spark a war on birth control that I had no desire to comment regarding.
You are always the instigator. Not the one who is attacked.
You always start with insulting tones.
Unfortunately Bob, you and Libby have a history like she has with me. I can go on any article about any subject, make a reasonable comment and get attacked immediately because I am a Conservative. I do remember you wearing her down on several blogs and then she would scream, call you names and refuse to answer because she had no answers to your logic and presentation of the facts. Good old Ron seems to have disappeared and won’t take you on with his bogus posts either.
I love to make every post about myself
Bob – it is you that set the tone of our relationship several years ago when you constantly bullied and insulted me. So no, I will not respect someone that doesn’t, and never has, shown me any respect.
Nope Libby.
I don’t have time for you. In every comment you felt it was ok to put “style” as you called it (slurs, bigoted comments, generalizations against republicans) and I responded insulting you.
I did not bully you. And I’m tired of this. Adios!
F off Bob. I’ve BEEN tired of you.
It has gotten rather crazy here.
I’m with you Ralph; my jaw has dropped this past week due to this terrible fiasco. I have been reading Advisen Professionals and get about the same content article wise and the comments are insurance related and seem to stay on a professional level. I’ve said before, we don’t all have to agree, how boring would that be…but we should all be respectful of each other as human beings and fellow insurance professionals. I too wish all the best and hope one day you kids can get along! Take care IJ :)
I still have to pay for my tooth brush out of pocket… How is this fair?
Hey Behemoth, I think it is unfair that I have to pay for over the counter Alieve’s for my back pain. Every plan should include that, right?
Might as well, since tax dollars even pay for the NFL.
Don’t forget NASCAR. For those of us with family trees that branch out, we subsidize the Idiocracy 500. Pay for gas at the pump, and a portion of your price covers Billbob-Lee’s 200 trips around a circle with all left turns no less. Don’t forget that a portion of it is paid through the defense budget with the left over jet fuel not to mention the ridiculous fly overs.
Your dentist doesn’t give you one?
I personally think everything should be paid for by your health ins, your home insurance, your flood insurance and your auto insurance policies. That way the premiums can skyrocket and my commissions get bigger and bigger.
I can then move into a larger home in a larger waterfront gated community and drive nicer cars. Thanks libtards! I really appreciate the raise.
You see someone has to pay for what’s covered and that someone is the middleclass. When you libtards figure that out…and you wont because being stupid is like being dead…maybe things will change and the middleclass will once again get the pay raise it deserves.
There are many, many items that could be stricken from the budget to pay for healthcare for our citizens. Instead we give welfare payments to giant corporations, bail out AIG and others, let the richest of the rich pay a fraction of what they should on their income tax, and send our military out to police the world. We just don’t have our priorities straight as a nation. We need to start taking care of our infrastucture and our citizens instead of catering to corporate lobbyists and passing bills full of pork.
Hi JACK. Ima little country and you’re a bit rock and roll. Why don’t we get together and Kid Rock up and down the block on 8 mile?
Jack, the biggest mistake booger’s mother ever made was not aborting him when she had the chance after finding out she was pregnant. Perhaps he was dropped on his head when he was a baby and he has been deranged ever since.
Lets…Not say that…
If you are actually Agent that is.
Sadly, I think that is Agent.
So now you condone abortion?
You see, someone has to pay for those tax cuts to the wealthy, and that someone is the middle class. When the teatards figure that out..and you won’t, because being stupid is like being dead…maybe things will change, and the middle class will once again get the pay raise it deserves.
Someone has to pay for tax cuts?
No. Someone has to pay for unreasonable spending, and buying bank loans so that the banks can lower interest rates. Quiz question: Are interest rates really low if tax spending is lowering them, which has to be taxed out of us?
QE, Twist, etc.
Someone has to pay when you tax the wealthy too much.
You are too young to know this, but: The quality of life has gone WAY up since we lowered tax rates. Every single poor person I have ever known owns multiple hd tvs. Are you aware in the 60’s you were lucky to have one? Every poor person I know has a cell phone and high speed internet. Every poor person I have known owns consoles or video gaming of some degree. In the 70’s, before the tax cuts, video game consoles were a luxury.
Every poor person I have ever known owns a computer. That one is self explanatory. Even in the 80’s a house hold computer was rare.
Food recently went way up in cost on the other hand. This was Obama’s fault, and is a big strain on the poor.
Housing costs are way up. This was from spending on Obama’s part to inflate the market. This is not from tax cuts.
The cost of every luxury item is down since even 2000. If our income was equal, with the low cost to make goods, we would be fine, as long as Obama had let the housing costs come down and didn’t inflate the cost of food.
Those two are the real problem.
Not health insurance.
The goal should be to lower the cost of living, not to tax and spend.
You are relating modern day electronics with days before they were readily available.
Poor people may own computers and cell phones and TV’s, but rich people own the latest, greatest of these in much higher quantities.
Having a computer and cell phone today is being a member of society.
It’s kind of hard to have a computer when you’re homeless.
How do you know how old he is? You’re a condescending POS, bob. And you’re only 34 yourself. You’re the youngster here. Quit acting like it.
Agent. You need to stick with one moniker and only one moniker.
And you should get of IJ entirely since you steal more than my moniker boogereater. Go blog on Media Matters or Moveon.org and be with like minded trolls.
What did he steal from you? If anything he gave you something. A couple of laughs. Something you’re not qualified to get on your own since you have no sense of humor.
At least you still have your virginity. No one will ever take that.
Ok I’m pretty sure this is Booger.
I’m having a hard time believing Agent would say this.
Bob, just look for the nasty insults and a sexual inuendos on most posts and it is booger personified. He really has a hang up and is probably impotent or gay or both.
Gay = Praising Ronald Reagan and talking about him like he’s George Washington.
Impotent = Liking your own posts 100 times only seconds after posting just so you can “get it up”
See what I mean Bob. Stealing my moniker to post his trash.
“…and is probably impotent or gay or both.”
How is this comment NOT a nasty insult?
You are not innocent Agent.
Cliven, you are no longer in control of the moniker “Agent”. No one has taken your moniker, we are simply using it as we choose. Until you can furnish a copyright for this name, you are fecking SOL. I’m sure Cliven is available and surely fits your personality better. At this point I think you are in the lowest percentile bracket in terms of IQ in Texico. This website pertains to insurance, not politics, and it sure as hell is not an extension of Sunday School. If you can’t figure that out, then you need to go back to selling vacuum cleaners. I can’t imagine the number of pictures you have on your agency wall near your shingles, of you and all your dog catching buddies. Your front yard must look like a NASCAR track with all the sponsorship you do for them. Plus being in Texico, there has to be a few tires here and there.
Lucy – not to mention his comment that he should have been aborted by his mother.
But we are the ugly, hurtful ones on here. It’s just more hypocrisy from the right. Business as usual folks.
Hey Bob, This is really me. One of my friends sent me a good one. Picture and elderly gentleman. It read – My uncle Frank from Chicago voted straight Republican all his life until he died. Since then, he has voted Democrat in every election. Sounds about right, doesn’t it?
Of course you would have photos of elderly people
Why do I get a picture of the actor Steve Buschemi with a mouth of rotten teeth when I think of you booger?
Cliven, my guess is that you are looking in the mirror while you are brushing your tooth, that’s why. We have the same moniker, but we have different appearances. I think you need a larger pair of pants. It’s too tight around your FUPA and you are crushing your brains.
You know, the day just wouldn’t be complete without ribbing Agent. I think deep down we really like each other. He’s like a father figure to me.
Libby, if I ever had a daughter resembling you and your attitude and mean spirit, she would have been disowned a long time ago, cut out of the will and hopefully lived out of state where we wouldn’t have to see each other again. Thankfully, I have two wonderful daughters who are polar opposites of you and are as Conservative as I am. Have fun trolling. You deserve to be with booger and Planet since they are like minded trolls.
Libby, if I ever had a daughter resembling me, my attitude, and mean spirit, she would have been disemboweled a long time ago, cut out of the will and hopefully lived in a different county where we wouldn’t have to see each other again. Thankfully, I have two wonderful (jazz hands) daughters who are bipolar and are as Ultra-Conservative as I am. Have fun trolling. I’m going to rifle through their purses again.
What a mean thing to say, Agent. You hurt my feelings.
Libby, nothing hurts your feelings like Bob’s posts which consistently get your goat and you end up screaming at him on IJ. How do you like boogerthief’s post? He conveniently put his own slant on it. The epitome of low life. Enjoy!
Bob doesn’t hurt my feelings. You’d have to care about someone to let them hurt your feelings.
You would have to be a bad person to say what you just said.
This is old.
All I have to say to you, is this needs to be more civil. We can’t have people running around saying to care about what someone has to say you have to care about them. That’s basically very hate filled.
Perhaps the following will stir some peace. I am sure you have heard it.
”
People are often unreasonable, illogical and self centered;
Forgive them anyway.
If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives;
Be kind anyway.
If you are successful, you will win some false friends and some true enemies;
Succeed anyway.
If you are honest and frank, people may cheat you;
Be honest and frank anyway.
What you spend years building, someone could destroy overnight;
Build anyway.
If you find serenity and happiness, they may be jealous;
Be happy anyway.
The good you do today, people will often forget tomorrow;
Do good anyway.
Give the world the best you have, and it may never be enough;
Give the world the best you’ve got anyway.
You see, in the final analysis, it is between you and your God;
It was never between you and them anyway.”
The day you speak civilly to me, I will do so to you. The day you stop bringing up mistakes I made years ago in an attempt to belittle me, I will act with more kindness. The day you stop insulting me and calling me names, I will do likewise. The day you stop calling me demonic and satanic because I don’t believe what you believe, I will start responding to you what you say. In other words, quit judging me and thinking you are better than me and we can have a reasonable conversation. In addition, I don’t always want a “debate.” Sometimes it’s OK to just speak your mind &/or an opinion. That’s what these forums are for.
Agent and Bob are my favorite examples of conservatism. With Bob, we have religion guiding his vote in the form of anti-abortion, anti-gay marriage fervor. With Agent, it’s just good old fashioned racism in his hatred of all things Obama.
Sorry to you both, the world is moving on and your positions are going to be causally tossed aside, without even a second thought. It will be slow, but in the end, Libby’s side will win this argument. Voters under 30 vote Democratic by a factor of 4 to 1. And the share of those voters that believe in God? All time lows heading lower.
In fifteen years, universal healthcare, abortion and gay marriage will be ironclad legal rights in all 50 states. And the country will be stronger because of it.
And it will happen in spite of you.
Rite on!
Libby, if I ever had a daughter resembling you and your attitude and mean spirit, she would have been disowned a long time ago, cut out of the will and hopefully lived out of state where we wouldn’t have to see each other again. Thankfully, I have two wonderful daughters who are polar opposites of you and are as Conservative as I am. Have fun trolling. You deserve to be with booger and Planet since they are like minded trolls.
Bob, just look for the nasty insults and a sexual inuendos on most posts and it is booger personified. He really has a hang up and is probably impotent or gay or both.
Jack, the biggest mistake booger’s mother ever made was not aborting him when she had the chance after finding out she was pregnant. Perhaps he was dropped on his head when he was a baby and he has been deranged ever since.
Hey Behemoth, I think it is unfair that I have to pay for over the counter Alieve’s for my back pain. Every plan should include that, right?
Wow, look at all my comments. No WONDER I can’t get one anymore, I’m so stressed out!
Hey Txmouth,
I saw a good political cartoon tonight. It was St. Ronald Reagan on the top of a balcony with his zipper down and his pale, wrinkly 2 inch limper hanging taking a leak on top of a poor black family who sat homeless, cold and starving on the street below. St. Reagan was looking behind him toward the deck talking to the top Republican booze hounds of the day, and the up-and-comers like George H W Bush, and he was telling them as he laughed, “And then I said it would trickle down.” Oh, they were all busting a gut over that one! And hey, at least for a little bit Ol’ Ronnie’s warm golden shower would warm that family up for a bit. Am I right? Too bad Ronnie Raygun isn’t still around to piss on us all. At least we still have his economic plan to do that to us.
That is a wonderful beautiful cartoon. Unfortunately for all of us, St Ronnie and his minions are still with us in spirit. The Niagara Falls of urine will be with us eternally with his Trickle Down Sodomy. I wonder who they next republicant actor will be to run for office. Was Clint Eastwood’s skit with a chair an indicator that he will be running in 2016? No we need to find a muscleman like Ahnold so imply we are strong. I sure love me Fred Thompson. He’s so broke he’s selling reverse mortgages on the talkin picture tube and even gives a shout out to St Ronnie. Here’s a beautiful clip to share.
http://youtu.be/nJSdFj3uCtQ
Let’s all pray about this.
Hey Planet, did you ever get out and pee on Chick Fil A’s building like you threatened to do or were you afraid of getting caught and put in the clinker?
Afraid? I don’t live my life in fear, I’m not Republican. The greater question is, who are you? Agent, Original Agent, or Hartley Evergetaboner?
Don’t forget Real Agent. And maybe Sybil.
Stop Booger from Posting says:
See what happens when you learn a new word but it’s actually the wrong word. I think this is from someone from Texico. Who can find bob’s mistake? We are taking caller number 5. All you would have to do is copy and paste anyone of Cliven’s posts and you would be able to get it right!
“I am so sick and tired of Booger littering IJ with his sick, immature DRIBBLE. He has no intelligence whatsoever and cannot say anything that is meaningful. He must work in the mail room or better yet, cleaning the bathrooms. Booger you are a disgrace to Insurance Professionals and since you have Libby and Planet as your pathetic cheering squad, they are too!”
Stick to the easy words!
Like drivel?
Actually, it is what occurs when you try to use slang to call a State Texico as an insult.
Texico is two states, one used as a hate reference to Texico New Mexico, basically calling it a dirt town. Which in itself is really rude to Texico the city in New Mexico.
Texico is sometimes also used as a slang to insult Texas for being the home state of company Texaco, which is homed in Texas.
Texico is also a slang insult used in the West to mock Texas for being “pro” “CO” as in Corporation.
The word is not new to me. Your use of it is not exactly clear.
I’m assuming your use is the first. As I said before with the winky. However, I know you don’t like gas, so I’m also assuming you mean the second as well.
I’m assuming you weren’t aware of the third.
Texico is a slam to a colony that depends heavily on the United States to fund its “cowboy” lifestyle. It is a dirty region of North America, it is a region that is a fascist corporate owned territory. Countries like the United States, Canada, and England use “Common Law” as the law of the land. Texico uses their own version called WWDCD or “What Would Davey Crockett Do?
bob, I personally want to thank you for your Captain Obvious references and hope the best for you in your future endeavors as the next spokesperson for hotels.com. Your analytical skills will not cut it the insurance world, especially regarding your analysis of poor people, home computers in the 80’s, smartphones, TV’s, etc. If you are willing to move to West, Texico, I think Cliven needs helps scooping up the rest of the fertilizer from that mishap at his insurancestry.
bob refuses to recognize there is corporate welfare in this country or that military bases are a form of federal assistance. Be prepared for a long response from him outlying why these notions are falsehoods.
I don’t read Bob The Bully and haven’t for maybe a year or better now, but after reading your post, I don’t have to. That is HILARIOUS! WWDCD – I am rolling. And then, hotels.com, 80’s home computers – man, give this guy a stage and a mic! You should educate Bob on how Texas = Middle East should you decide to engage his name calling.
no I think they meant “DRIBBLE” as in he dribbles all over himself, lol.
Or he means dribble, as in, Txmouth dribbles circles around Agent/Original Agent/Real Agent/Hartley Evergetaboner/maybe Sybil like Steve Nash.
The sad part is, it’s wasted on Agent/Original Agent/Real Agent/Hartley Evergetaboner/maybe Sybil. He doesn’t get it.
But his loss is our gain!! Txmouth makes my day!