“I may not be on the ballot, but my policies are, every single one of them.”
What a line of BS. You not only lost Obama (you and every single one of your policies), but you got your ass kicked. Are you blind? Do you know how to read? Or are you a blithering moron? And a flaming liar?
In 2008, your side got their ass kicked even harder, yet no one on your side seemed to acknowledge it. Quite the opposite, in fact. Why would you expect him to be any different than any other president whose party lost a midterm?
“Our side” never made such an arrogant declaration just prior to the election. Oh and this one. “Elections have consequences.” Unless of course I lose as I am almighty – Obama.
There is a big difference between “our side” and that pompous ass Obama.
Have you been keeping up with what ISIS or ISIL is doing in the Middle East? You know that JUNIOR VARSITY terrorist group dubbed by Obama? Syria is a total disaster. Obama finally came to his senses but way to late in the game. ISIS should never have been allowed to get this big. Period.
February 3, 2015 at 12:59 pm
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Always, did you see the story on Townhall about Obama and his operatives working to get Netanyahu ousted in Israel. I think their nose is slightly out of joint that he is coming to speak in Congress so they are providing operatives and money to campaign against him in the next election. To say the relationship with Israel and this country is frosty is putting it mildly. It should be an interesting speech detailing what is going on in the Middle East and the peril that Israel is facing.
February 3, 2015 at 2:53 pm
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One Voice was started by Republican George Bush and one of its board members is Republican Dennis Ross. I’d be careful to link One Voice solely to Obama and his buddies when they still have clear ties to the Republican party too.
February 3, 2015 at 4:35 pm
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Hi Agent,
No, I didn’t see the story on Townhall regarding Obama and his operatives trying to oust Netanyahu but is has been all over FB. Obama threw Israel under the buss not long after he got elected and everyone who voted for him knew it. Sadly, a lot of Jews voted for him. I wonder if their loyalty to the Democratic party still holds true. The last election does seem to suggest otherwise. With Iran getting very close to having nuclear power it’s not only Israel that needs to have their guard up. Have you heard that ISIS put their Japanese hostage in a cage and set the poor guy of fire because Japan wouldn’t pay the ransom? If Obama had any brains he’d be getting a coalition together with Israel and Japan and start blowing ISIS of the face of the Earth. However, he’ll never call them a terrorist organization and he’ll never be the leader he was meant to be because he has no backbone. All a part of his plan. He wants to be known as the president that didn’t start any wars and the one who closed gitmo and unleashed all the top notch terrorists so they could go back to where they came from and plot the USAs demise.
February 2, 2015 at 2:11 pm
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Dave, the first defeat in the mid terms was just blamed on the message not being communicated clearly, the second one, he blamed his voters for not coming out. I am afraid the voters understood the message very clearly. Spend more, tax more, regulate more and all will be fine.
How did you get to work up there in Chicagoland? I understand 19″ is on the ground. Did Gore give a speech up there on Global Warming?
I walk about 200′ to my bus stop. On the way home the bus drops me off right in front of my door. It’s the only reason I still live in Chicago, the convenience. When I’m done working, I’m out. Indiana (balanced budget and all) here I come.
You’re lucky, Dave. I drive to work and the snow was up to my knees. The street I live on, Paulina, finally got salted this morning right before I left for work. The funny thing is the City was working on putting in a new sewer pipe in at almost the end of our block, the hole was almost finished, just needed the gravel and back top put on – wouldn’t you know the salt tuck along with another car fell right in it. Not sure how they could have not seen it – the city had horses blocking it.
I love how righties always gloss over the elections where they lost seats and the White House. You guys always focus on the elections with fewer voters then say that is when elections matter.
If his policies have been so damaging, how did he get re-elected and the Democrats were able to gain seats in the House and Senate in 2012?
Dumb voters, uncontested lies by the liberal media.
Remember the debate where Obama lied about what he said in the Rose Garden concerning the Benghazi attacks? And then Candy Crawley stepped in and supported his lie? Obvious media bias which slammed the brakes on the debate and the Romney campaign. But when bias goes your way, you rarely notice it do you? Crawley later apologized for being incorrect. Too late, the intended damage was done.
There are dumb voters and lies, from both sides, in all elections. You need to open your eyes to the evils of both the Democrats and Republicans. Neither party cares about you or helping the country.
If you think anybody voted for President Obama because of a single issue during a single debate, you are too naive to debate.
That person does not exist. Being from Chicago and being flooded by the political swamp from whence Obama came, nothing surprises me. What surprises me is the idiocy of the electorate, but it was helped by the far left main stream media. Again Ron, name the Republican President who made such a claim and proceeded to do the opposite.
Why are you asking me that question? When have I ever stated that I will defend President Obama no matter what? If you read the history of my posts you would know that I have criticized him for several issues, especially Benghazi, the IRS scandal, the PPACA, and anytime he has either lied or misinformed the citizens.
What upsets me is how the Republicans do not realize that the reason President Obama weas elected, then re-elected, was because the Republican nominee was worse. I have stated multiple times that if Senator McCain selected a competent running mate we would never had President Obama. If Jon Huntsman was the nominee, President Obama would not have been re-elected.
February 3, 2015 at 5:19 pm
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Good Reply Dave. Those who are like you and FFA and trying to make it in the swamp of Chicago and have lived with the lies and terrible governance have first hand knowledge. I am sure you were rolling your eyes from the start with Obama and his promises. It is too bad there are so many stupid people that fell for it in their quest to elect the first black President. I had him figured out completely when he told Joe the Plumber that we had to spread the wealth around and that was very early in the game.
February 3, 2015 at 5:22 pm
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Ron, what makes you think a Community Organizer with bad associations was a better choice than any Republican? McCain was a RINO, but I think he may have been better than your choice. Romney was a RINO, but at least he had business sense. Please give us an example of how a serial liar Community Organizer was a better choice to lead this country.
February 6, 2015 at 2:28 pm
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You believe Palin was less competent than Obama?
The Jr. Senator with next to no experience whatsoever?
Is this I wonder, due to some sort of sexism you have? The image that democrat successfully gave due to her odd accent? Maybe because she didn’t meet societal norms?
It could not have been her level of expertise. McCain was one of the few people who suggested changes to the housing market. He was a good running mate.
We lost in 08′ because democrats are better at lying and flame wars, and they lied about Iraq. That’s about it.
Democrats and republicans are not equal. False equivalency is by far my least favorite aspect of you.
Republicans do care. It is why they are anti abortion, despite knowing it is a losing battle.
There are some in the party who are bad. But overall, no. They are not a bad party, whereas democrats provably are.
February 9, 2015 at 11:29 am
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bob,
If you can defend Sarah Palin, then you are not worth debating. Even the Conservatives have been walking away from her. She is a lunatic, nut-job. I believe the people we elect to our higher offices should have social graces of which she has shown zero signs of having.
I think both Republicans and Democrats are terrible. If you think any of them care about you or what you care about you are sadly mistaken. They only care about their own careers and their donors.
This is why we need term limits and 100% public funding of elections. Until that happens, Republicans=Democrats. You can argue ideology until you are blue in the face. Their actions are way too similar for my taste. Neither party is willing to compromise, neither actually cares about fiscal responsibility, neither will do any real spending cuts, neither really cares about social issues. Both parties atalk a good game, but I care about action.
February 2, 2015 at 4:18 pm
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Dave, clearly Romney was ahead until that last debate when he let Obama off the hook on Libya. He should have put the pedal to the metal and exposed the lie of Obama. He let Crowley off the hook too easy as well. Then, he disappeared the last week of the election and didn’t do media interviews. His strategy obviously failed being Mr. Nice Guy. You can’t expect to win against nasty liberals that way.
Romney lost because nobody (hyperbole) likes him, period. He lost every state that he and Paul Ryan had any connection; MA, CA, MI, WI, NH. He only won states that would have voted for President Carter or Hitler if they were running against President Obama.
Saying what people like to hear doesn’t make you a better choice. Saying what is true does though.
Romney was not a great choice from the perspective of conservatives, but he was from the perspective of moderates, (or should have been) indefinitely.
Us conservatives didn’t like him for differing reasons (namely his position on abortion).
You are not at all analyzing voters as having multiple tendencies.
February 2, 2015 at 6:55 pm
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Why is it that when Republicans lose, it’s dumb voters and the liberal media, but when they win, it’s a mandate for change from the American People?
This idea that there are people like you and Dave who are “correct” and the people who disagree with you who are leftist Progressives (run for the hills, the Progressives are coming!) only reinforces the tired idea (fueled by both parties, the media, and special interests) that there is an insurmountable divide in this country. You’d find that there is much we agree upon if you could first acknowledge that the other half of the country is not trying to create a Communist state, or sell us out to the terrorists.
Part of it is off year elections. I’ll equate it to baseball. For baseball to succeed it needs not only serious fans like me, but the casual fans. Those who know little about baseball but like “the experience” or like the old ballpark, but are not too bothered by what’s going on on field, or know what an ERA or RBI is. So I go to a game nowadays and to compete the team has to attract those who know little about the game and sit around me and bother me.
Off year elections are similar in that only serious voters come out. The casual voter who knows little about politics, economics or cannot find Russia or Iran on a map stay home. During Presidential elections their mindlessness is swayed by sayings such as Hope & Change. If you’re too dumb to figure that out, then I know what camp you fall into.
February 4, 2015 at 12:06 pm
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To Dave: You’re just restating your premise that those who agree with you are not only wrong, they’re stupid. Must be nice living in that warm, cozy world of yours. Why not just say people who don’t agree with you should have their voting rights repealed? You might even be able to get that passed in an off-year election.
February 6, 2015 at 2:33 pm
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An easy answer Other:
Because when democrats win, it is generally by manipulating stupidity, whereas when Republicans win, it is generally by trying to end it.
An example: Iraq (best lie and manipulation for politics I have seen in at least 50 years), 2008 melt down (well done.), Obama trying to assault Romney based on whether or not he would have supported the bail out, all areas of stupidity.
It is not a contradiction. You are once again trying false equivalency.
February 11, 2015 at 1:46 pm
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Bob, you just said the same thing as Dave. People you disagree with are stupid, and those you agree with are smart. I understand your way of thinking – it makes it very easy to interpret election results in the way you want to interpret them. But it’s just your feeling – it has “truthiness” to it, as Colbert would say.
February 2, 2015 at 3:18 pm
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Ron, nobody plays the blame game like the lefties. Every failed policy whether it is foreign or domestic is always someone else’s fault, usually Republicans or Bush as Libby & Celtica love to do. Your wonderful Biden put his foot in his mouth again when he said last week that the last 6 years have been really tough and the Middle Class was just getting killed. Hey Joe, who has been in charge the past 6 years? Have you or your President done anything to keep the Middle Class from getting killed?
Who is ranting Ron? You ranted for a whole paragraph and then arrogantly said, how did he get elected in 2012? He had pretty much the whole liberal media spewing his lies for 6 years and a lot of low information voters like you carrying his water. We are still waiting for you to proclaim his successes and using trumped up numbers from some government website to support your position. I wish you would open your eyes to the truth sometime and you wouldn’t have so much trouble justifying Obama to this forum.
You were the one ranting. See how easy it is to answer someone’s question directly.
February 3, 2015 at 3:03 pm
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“We are still waiting for you to proclaim his successes and using trumped up numbers from some government website to support your position.”
Well, at least he would’ve used SOMETHING to support his argument, as opposed to saying things like “clearly it’s ___” or “I read ____” without bothering to attempt to support those statements.
February 4, 2015 at 1:22 pm
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Ron,
C’mon, you know these types don’t like reality. Quit trying to dose them with it. Let them have their Faux News vision of the world. Yes, that very “news” organization that was found by Politifact to be lying in some fashion 69% of the time. Those lies give them the fear they so much adore. Especially Agent.
So Planet, you finally jumped back in the water with your goofy posts. I am waiting on your answer on having a brand new US Senator representing the Great State of Iowa. I think it is you that got a new shot of reality up there. Perhaps some Conservatism will do some good for what ails you. By the way, Scott Walker also showed very well in Iowa when he was there. You may have to move to Illinois to find some like minded people.
Agent,
I think it’s great we have our own Michelle Bachmann/Sarah Palin up here. Gives me plenty to laugh at. #breadbags, #biscuits
Oh, and we’ve had a righty governor for awhile now, Agent. Though, he hasn’t helped implement any policies that have changed anything. Iowa has always been a good state thanks to our ag commodity driven economy.
It is too bad that your side that the majority of Iowans like Conservative values now instead of those liberals you have had for years. You and yours are now in the minority, get used to it.
February 11, 2015 at 8:02 pm
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And the white man will be a minority in the US in the near future. Better start getting used to that
February 2, 2015 at 2:59 pm
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Cybersecurity- Can you Obamacareless website ??? LMAO some more!
Hey Jack, I saw a funny but true comment on the internet on the subject of minimum wage McDonald’s workers wanting $15 per hour.
For those fast food employees striking for $15 per hour, let’s do some math. At $15 per hour, Johnny Fry-boy would make $31,200 annually. An E-1(Private) in the military makes $18,378. An E-5 Sargeant with 8 years service makes $35,067. So you are telling me Sally McBurgerflipper, that you deserve as much as those kids getting shot at, deploying for months in hostile environments, and putting their collective A$$es on the line every day protecting your unskilled butt! Here’s the deal Baconator, you are working in a job designed for a kid in high school who is learning how to work and earning enough for gas, and hanging out with their equally goofy high school pals. If you have chosen this as your lifelong profession, you have failed. If you don’t want minimum wage, don’t have minimum skills.
Do any of you guys have anything thoughtful to say – or do you just prefer name calling? Do you wonder why intelligent college grads are not flocking to the insurance agency business?
Robert, unfortunately, many of the bloggers on this site are employees of companies or brokers and agree with the leftist Progressive mantra. Agents like myself are Conservatives who put them in their place. I am not sure there are many intelligent college graduates these days to enter the agency business.
Just calling them as I see them Ron. You don’t like the truth much. Isn’t it you who always act so shocked when info comes out that doesn’t fit your belief system? You claim before everyone that you are an Independent. If you are, I am shocked that you don’t join other Independents who give Obama the same low marks Republicans do. All I ever get from you is that you have disagreed with “some” of his policies. You should be outraged.
By the way, the latest gaffe prior to the Superbowl. The President is proud to be making beer in the White House. He said that George Washington made beer in the White House. The only thing wrong with that is that there was no White House when Washington was President.
Hey Ron – as a fellow Independent, I would like to thank you for having your own mind and deciding how you feel on various topics regardless of what any political party believes.
…after all, if all Independents believed it was wise to jump off a bridge into shark-infested waters, you don’t have to follow suit just because you’re an Independent. That theory works for all parties: you can be a Dem or Repub and disagree with any of your party’s beliefs and still consider yourself a Dem or Repub.
February 3, 2015 at 1:54 pm
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Thank you Rosenblatt. Unfortunately Agent cannot grasp that concept.
February 3, 2015 at 2:52 pm
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Agent,
What truth? If there is so much truth, then provide facts and data to support your truth.
Nothing shocks me.
Please tell me how being outraged would fix anything. You mean like the Tea Party that acts so outraged, but accomplishes nothing.
February 3, 2015 at 5:43 pm
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Rosenblatt, I seem to remember you saying you didn’t vote for Obama or Romney in the last election. Apparently you weren’t swayed at all to even vote or did you vote for a silly Libertarian? Ron was persuaded to vote for Obama as he admitted. He apparently didn’t wade too deep into the lies and believed this was going to be the most transparent administration in history.
February 4, 2015 at 8:20 am
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Agent – what the h3ll does who I did or didn’t vote for have ANYTHING to do with this conversation? All I said was I agree with Ron that you can be affiliated with a party and still not agree with that party 100% of the time. Who I voted for is irrelevant.
February 4, 2015 at 10:00 am
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Rosenblatt, what amazes me is that you and Ron don’t seem to know how to tell right from wrong when deciding who to support or vote for. Ron is famous for sifting through information available on candidates and then voting for Obama. That is the very definition of Progressive Independent. So what if you are disgusted with both parties and both have barnacles. If you can’t tell who stands for Progressivism and who stands for Free Market enterprise and Conservative solutions to problems facing America, then you have a big problem with your intellect.
February 4, 2015 at 2:05 pm
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Thank you Troll Agent for ignoring my question and insulting my intelligence even though I had not said anything insulting about or to you.
“Rosenblatt, what amazes me is that you and Ron don’t seem to know how to tell right from wrong when deciding who to support or vote for.”
I get it, Agent — if we don’t agree with who you want as President, we’re wrong. If we agree with who you want as President, we’re right.
February 4, 2015 at 2:08 pm
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PPS: “Ron is famous for sifting through information available on candidates and then voting for Obama.”
(Start sarcasm) — HOW DARE YOU RON!!! You reviewed all the information you could and decided to cast your vote for someone Agent didn’t think should be President? You are horrible.
February 6, 2015 at 2:36 pm
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Rosenblatt:
We get it Rosenblatt, he can’t tell you something is a bad choice, without first agreeing with you in the choice made. That is a contradiction.
You have made it so there is an impossibility that he can ever question your voting habits, whereas you can question his often.
In saying that your choice was bad, it by default, has to be a choice he didn’t support.
For God’s sakes, you really are showing your true colors, as well as ignorance.
There is right and wrong. Let’s just accept that. One party is better than the other. Let’s just accept that, until it changes.
February 6, 2015 at 2:41 pm
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And as for the arrogance here between you and Ron:
Neither of you have your own mind. You disregard good politics, due to equally disregarding all politics.
False equivalency. It is always that.
When republicans and democrats block bills they are equally bad, so the republicans trying to repeal the healthcare act we put in place must be bad right?
Republicans and democrats are equally bad, so when republicans do something you want (tax cuts, spending cuts) they are equally as bad as democrats unless they pass the opposite of what you want in a compromise (in other words, your false equivalency will not allow spending cuts and tax cuts to occur).
You are basically people who like to be contradictory (not to be confused with people who like to actually question things with a legitimate reason, you question it for often no purpose other than false equivalency), not moderates.
February 6, 2015 at 2:43 pm
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In the healthcare one I assumed you would know what I mean:
Neither of you want the healhtcare act in place, neither of you want it repealed in the name of trying to use false equivalency to say that republicans would be playing politics in voting on it currently, what you would consider to make them corrupt.
So the timing on voting on it is the issue there then…And it makes little to no sense. Voting on an issue is often solely with the concept of keeping the issue alive, so people will vote based on it to get the item done.
February 6, 2015 at 2:45 pm
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So that marks two issues, that your moderate contradictory behavior has disallowed you from having an affect regarding.
How many others are there I wonder?
What is the point in being a moderate, if you can’t get crap in place? If you can’t vote in a manner to get what you want?
Clearly, your voting is the issue. Clearly, your methods are the issue, and aren’t getting you what you want. And you blame both sides for all issues, when you don’t get a single issue. The problem here is to get that single issue, you need to allow a side to do it. You can’t blame a side when you refuse them the ability to do what you want.
February 6, 2015 at 4:07 pm
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Sure bob, whatever you say. Keep pretending you know me and keep telling me what I believe and why I act the way I do.
Don’t bother to actually ask me my opinion on things or why I did what I did – just keep assuming you’re so freaking smart you know exactly what’s going on in my head.
PS: “One party is better than the other. Let’s just accept that, until it changes.”
I do not accept that.
February 10, 2015 at 7:31 pm
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I’m sorry Rosenblatt, are you still on the “you don’t know me” argument?
I do know Ron’s position on the matter. I included you both as you are both similar.
The way Ron votes indefinitely goes against getting what he wants.
The fact that you think of both parties as exactly equal is ignorance. End of story. They are not exactly equal.
You both don’t like the healthcare law if I’m not mistaken. But you both are not ok with republicans repealing it.
You didn’t vote for the republicans who had alternate ideas during that election, and hold them responsible for both the passage of the healthcare law, and the inability to remove it.
By making everything “equal” and refusing to put the proper party at fault, you are BOTH single handidly responsible for the stimulus, for the taxing and spending going on with Obama, and for the healthcare law you don’t support.
If you voted the other way, we would not have had a stimulus. We would not have had that healthcare law you don’t support.
I know it’s hard to admit that you vote like an idiot. But you do.
You solely want to believe both parties are equal to believe you vote better informed than other idiots (like Agent).
You aren’t special. Get over it.
Right now republicans are the way to go.
Dividing the vote, divides the ability to get things done.
February 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm
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“I’m sorry Rosenblatt, are you still on the “you don’t know me” argument?”
Yes. When you stop incorrectly assuming you know everything about me, I’ll stop pointing out where you’re wrong.
“The fact that you think of both parties as exactly equal is ignorance. End of story. They are not exactly equal.”
I NEVER SAID THIS. I SAID BOTH PARTIES HAVE ISSUES AND SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ARE THE SAME. I NEVER SAID THEY WERE EQUAL.
“You both don’t like the healthcare law if I’m not mistaken.”
YOU ARE MISTAKEN. I LIKE THE LAW. YOU DON’T KNOW ME.
“You didn’t vote for the republicans who had alternate ideas during that election, and hold them responsible for both the passage of the healthcare law, and the inability to remove it.”
I DON’T HOLD THE REPUBLICANS RESPONSIBLE FOR ACA PASSING. ALSO, I SAID I DIDN’T VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, BUT I DID VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS. AGAIN, YOU SAYING I DIDN’T VOTE REPUBLICAN IS WRONG – YOU DON’T KNOW ME.
“By making everything “equal” and refusing to….”
AGAIN. YOU ASSUME I THINK THE TWO PARTIES ARE EQUAL. I NEVER SAID THAT. I DON’T THINK THAT. YOU’RE WRONG HERE TOO.
“I know it’s hard to admit that you vote like an idiot. But you do.”
SINCE I VOTED REPUBLICAN LAST ELECTION, APPARENTLY YOU AND AGENT VOTED LIKE IDIOTS TOO.
“You solely want to believe both parties are equal..”
WRONG. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS.
Listen bob. This is the 3rd time I am asking something VERY simple of you: DON’T TELL ME WHAT I BELIEVE OR WHAT I THINK.
Clearly you’re way off base on your assumptions, so just stop assuming things about me and not taking my words at face value and we’ll be fine. Simple.
I’m quite capable of speaking for myself. Don’t talk for me, especially when you’re saying things that aren’t true. Just stop.
February 3, 2015 at 4:22 pm
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College grad and intelligent doesn’t really have to coincide. I have 2 producers that don’t have college degrees and they both figured out Obamacareless was a failure simply by knowing the principles of insurance. And the one guy that works for me with a Masters thinks it will work. Proof again you can’t fix stupid and that those degrees simply means you went to school.
Hey Jack, remember Stan? He had three degrees and couldn’t find a job for two years. Of course, it didn’t help that he was a raving lunatic for Obama and Obamacareless. He was practically foaming at the mouth. He just couldn’t understand why an employer wouldn’t hire him. It was all about attitude and his agenda.
Rosenblatt, your temper is getting the best of you. How about you and Ron putting on your thinking cap for a change and smell the coffee? Can you think without a website or does that give you a migraine? If I were following the dictates of Progressive thought, I would have a permanent migraine for having to defend it all day every day.
Hi Troll Agent! I won’t sarcastically speak for Ron, but me so stoopid I can’t find me thinkers cap! Me no ever think. All websites give me migraines – I still can’t figure out how to post proper replies on this site, maybe you help dumb me get smartzers?
Hi Troll Rosenblatt & Ron, it does no good for Bob and I to try to educate you since you are so mired in Progressive thought that you can’t see the forest for the trees. Your hero Obama has run up a debt of just about $8 Trillion in 6+ years, more than all Presidents combined in the history of the country and somehow that is ok. He criticized Bush when he was running and said it was unpatriotic to run up the debt and conveniently failed to mention we had 9/11 to deal with during that time. I wonder what Obama would have done if the same thing happened under his watch. Let me guess, we apologize Al Quida. Please don’t do it again.
February 11, 2015 at 8:54 am
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Yeah dink, he’s my Obama even though you know I didn’t cast a single vote for him in either election. Try trolling harder
February 4, 2015 at 1:19 pm
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I just don’t understand the way of the world. Republicans/conservatives place the blame on Obama for everything and anything. It’s his fault that the world is falling apart. Yet, the same folks are constantly moaning about “government interference” in all aspects of day to day living.
The many of the loudest critics of the way the war of terror is being fought never served day one in the fight. They know not the consequences and repurcussions our troops suffer under upon coming home. Yet there call is for more troops all over the world. The American Sniper suffered mightily for his service.
Frankly, I am tired of all of it. Let’s bring the troops home and let those in the far off places just eradicate themselves. Oops,I forgot about the oil!!! Yes children, oil is why we are trapped in this mess. If there was no oil in the middle east, where would we be? Deep in the heart of TX, ND, OH, PA, ad infintum
Jade, are you jaded? It might surprise you to know that the loudest critics of the war on terror did serve in the military including myself and many on this blog. Vietnam was far bloodier that Iraq and Afghanistan has been. Veterans were then spat upon when they returned home, called baby killers and every other vile name.
I do agree that we can do without Middle East oil because we have more than they do in proven reserves and it should be fully developed so we can thumb our nose at the shieks. All we have to do is get this President off the industry’s back and go drill it. Drill, baby, drill.
Shawn Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney. The list goes on.
Cheney stated he had other things or something else to do and he was in the VN era. Go figure. Not all Viet Vets were treated badly. Remember My Lai!
MSNBC, CNBC,CBS,ABC,NBC,NPR,CNN, the list goes on an on with left wing commentators spewing their rhetoric. You are lucky we have Fox and the Conservative internet or we would already be Cuba or Venezuela.
LMAO
“I may not be on the ballot, but my policies are, every single one of them.”
What a line of BS. You not only lost Obama (you and every single one of your policies), but you got your ass kicked. Are you blind? Do you know how to read? Or are you a blithering moron? And a flaming liar?
In 2008, your side got their ass kicked even harder, yet no one on your side seemed to acknowledge it. Quite the opposite, in fact. Why would you expect him to be any different than any other president whose party lost a midterm?
“Our side” never made such an arrogant declaration just prior to the election. Oh and this one. “Elections have consequences.” Unless of course I lose as I am almighty – Obama.
There is a big difference between “our side” and that pompous ass Obama.
Really? Your side made declarations that included a vote for Obama means the terrorists win. Arrogance is in the eye of the beholder.
Yes, elections do have consequences. You’re stuck with the consequences of 2012. Better luck in 2016.
Have you been keeping up with what ISIS or ISIL is doing in the Middle East? You know that JUNIOR VARSITY terrorist group dubbed by Obama? Syria is a total disaster. Obama finally came to his senses but way to late in the game. ISIS should never have been allowed to get this big. Period.
Always, did you see the story on Townhall about Obama and his operatives working to get Netanyahu ousted in Israel. I think their nose is slightly out of joint that he is coming to speak in Congress so they are providing operatives and money to campaign against him in the next election. To say the relationship with Israel and this country is frosty is putting it mildly. It should be an interesting speech detailing what is going on in the Middle East and the peril that Israel is facing.
One Voice was started by Republican George Bush and one of its board members is Republican Dennis Ross. I’d be careful to link One Voice solely to Obama and his buddies when they still have clear ties to the Republican party too.
Hi Agent,
No, I didn’t see the story on Townhall regarding Obama and his operatives trying to oust Netanyahu but is has been all over FB. Obama threw Israel under the buss not long after he got elected and everyone who voted for him knew it. Sadly, a lot of Jews voted for him. I wonder if their loyalty to the Democratic party still holds true. The last election does seem to suggest otherwise. With Iran getting very close to having nuclear power it’s not only Israel that needs to have their guard up. Have you heard that ISIS put their Japanese hostage in a cage and set the poor guy of fire because Japan wouldn’t pay the ransom? If Obama had any brains he’d be getting a coalition together with Israel and Japan and start blowing ISIS of the face of the Earth. However, he’ll never call them a terrorist organization and he’ll never be the leader he was meant to be because he has no backbone. All a part of his plan. He wants to be known as the president that didn’t start any wars and the one who closed gitmo and unleashed all the top notch terrorists so they could go back to where they came from and plot the USAs demise.
Dave, the first defeat in the mid terms was just blamed on the message not being communicated clearly, the second one, he blamed his voters for not coming out. I am afraid the voters understood the message very clearly. Spend more, tax more, regulate more and all will be fine.
How did you get to work up there in Chicagoland? I understand 19″ is on the ground. Did Gore give a speech up there on Global Warming?
I walk about 200′ to my bus stop. On the way home the bus drops me off right in front of my door. It’s the only reason I still live in Chicago, the convenience. When I’m done working, I’m out. Indiana (balanced budget and all) here I come.
You’re lucky, Dave. I drive to work and the snow was up to my knees. The street I live on, Paulina, finally got salted this morning right before I left for work. The funny thing is the City was working on putting in a new sewer pipe in at almost the end of our block, the hole was almost finished, just needed the gravel and back top put on – wouldn’t you know the salt tuck along with another car fell right in it. Not sure how they could have not seen it – the city had horses blocking it.
Dave,
All of the above. I could not agree with you more.
I love how righties always gloss over the elections where they lost seats and the White House. You guys always focus on the elections with fewer voters then say that is when elections matter.
If his policies have been so damaging, how did he get re-elected and the Democrats were able to gain seats in the House and Senate in 2012?
And do not insult the voters of this country.
Dumb voters, uncontested lies by the liberal media.
Remember the debate where Obama lied about what he said in the Rose Garden concerning the Benghazi attacks? And then Candy Crawley stepped in and supported his lie? Obvious media bias which slammed the brakes on the debate and the Romney campaign. But when bias goes your way, you rarely notice it do you? Crawley later apologized for being incorrect. Too late, the intended damage was done.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sheffield/2012/10/16/candy-crowley-embarrasses-herself-falsely-corrects-romney-libya
Dave,
There are dumb voters and lies, from both sides, in all elections. You need to open your eyes to the evils of both the Democrats and Republicans. Neither party cares about you or helping the country.
If you think anybody voted for President Obama because of a single issue during a single debate, you are too naive to debate.
Ron, tell me the name of any Republican President who upon coming into office declared he would have the most transparent administration EVER and then proceeded to do the exact opposite. From the Fast & Furious cover-up, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, the Obamacare lies, I can go on and on. http://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2013/06/05/the-most-transparent-administration-ever-lol-n1613004
That person does not exist. Being from Chicago and being flooded by the political swamp from whence Obama came, nothing surprises me. What surprises me is the idiocy of the electorate, but it was helped by the far left main stream media. Again Ron, name the Republican President who made such a claim and proceeded to do the opposite.
Dave,
Why are you asking me that question? When have I ever stated that I will defend President Obama no matter what? If you read the history of my posts you would know that I have criticized him for several issues, especially Benghazi, the IRS scandal, the PPACA, and anytime he has either lied or misinformed the citizens.
What upsets me is how the Republicans do not realize that the reason President Obama weas elected, then re-elected, was because the Republican nominee was worse. I have stated multiple times that if Senator McCain selected a competent running mate we would never had President Obama. If Jon Huntsman was the nominee, President Obama would not have been re-elected.
Good Reply Dave. Those who are like you and FFA and trying to make it in the swamp of Chicago and have lived with the lies and terrible governance have first hand knowledge. I am sure you were rolling your eyes from the start with Obama and his promises. It is too bad there are so many stupid people that fell for it in their quest to elect the first black President. I had him figured out completely when he told Joe the Plumber that we had to spread the wealth around and that was very early in the game.
Ron, what makes you think a Community Organizer with bad associations was a better choice than any Republican? McCain was a RINO, but I think he may have been better than your choice. Romney was a RINO, but at least he had business sense. Please give us an example of how a serial liar Community Organizer was a better choice to lead this country.
You believe Palin was less competent than Obama?
The Jr. Senator with next to no experience whatsoever?
Is this I wonder, due to some sort of sexism you have? The image that democrat successfully gave due to her odd accent? Maybe because she didn’t meet societal norms?
It could not have been her level of expertise. McCain was one of the few people who suggested changes to the housing market. He was a good running mate.
We lost in 08′ because democrats are better at lying and flame wars, and they lied about Iraq. That’s about it.
Democrats and republicans are not equal. False equivalency is by far my least favorite aspect of you.
Republicans do care. It is why they are anti abortion, despite knowing it is a losing battle.
There are some in the party who are bad. But overall, no. They are not a bad party, whereas democrats provably are.
bob,
If you can defend Sarah Palin, then you are not worth debating. Even the Conservatives have been walking away from her. She is a lunatic, nut-job. I believe the people we elect to our higher offices should have social graces of which she has shown zero signs of having.
I think both Republicans and Democrats are terrible. If you think any of them care about you or what you care about you are sadly mistaken. They only care about their own careers and their donors.
This is why we need term limits and 100% public funding of elections. Until that happens, Republicans=Democrats. You can argue ideology until you are blue in the face. Their actions are way too similar for my taste. Neither party is willing to compromise, neither actually cares about fiscal responsibility, neither will do any real spending cuts, neither really cares about social issues. Both parties atalk a good game, but I care about action.
Dave, clearly Romney was ahead until that last debate when he let Obama off the hook on Libya. He should have put the pedal to the metal and exposed the lie of Obama. He let Crowley off the hook too easy as well. Then, he disappeared the last week of the election and didn’t do media interviews. His strategy obviously failed being Mr. Nice Guy. You can’t expect to win against nasty liberals that way.
Agent,
Romney lost because nobody (hyperbole) likes him, period. He lost every state that he and Paul Ryan had any connection; MA, CA, MI, WI, NH. He only won states that would have voted for President Carter or Hitler if they were running against President Obama.
And no one likes him…Why?
The 401k, 47% comment as well as others.
Saying what people like to hear doesn’t make you a better choice. Saying what is true does though.
Romney was not a great choice from the perspective of conservatives, but he was from the perspective of moderates, (or should have been) indefinitely.
Us conservatives didn’t like him for differing reasons (namely his position on abortion).
You are not at all analyzing voters as having multiple tendencies.
Why is it that when Republicans lose, it’s dumb voters and the liberal media, but when they win, it’s a mandate for change from the American People?
This idea that there are people like you and Dave who are “correct” and the people who disagree with you who are leftist Progressives (run for the hills, the Progressives are coming!) only reinforces the tired idea (fueled by both parties, the media, and special interests) that there is an insurmountable divide in this country. You’d find that there is much we agree upon if you could first acknowledge that the other half of the country is not trying to create a Communist state, or sell us out to the terrorists.
Well said!!
Part of it is off year elections. I’ll equate it to baseball. For baseball to succeed it needs not only serious fans like me, but the casual fans. Those who know little about baseball but like “the experience” or like the old ballpark, but are not too bothered by what’s going on on field, or know what an ERA or RBI is. So I go to a game nowadays and to compete the team has to attract those who know little about the game and sit around me and bother me.
Off year elections are similar in that only serious voters come out. The casual voter who knows little about politics, economics or cannot find Russia or Iran on a map stay home. During Presidential elections their mindlessness is swayed by sayings such as Hope & Change. If you’re too dumb to figure that out, then I know what camp you fall into.
To Dave: You’re just restating your premise that those who agree with you are not only wrong, they’re stupid. Must be nice living in that warm, cozy world of yours. Why not just say people who don’t agree with you should have their voting rights repealed? You might even be able to get that passed in an off-year election.
An easy answer Other:
Because when democrats win, it is generally by manipulating stupidity, whereas when Republicans win, it is generally by trying to end it.
An example: Iraq (best lie and manipulation for politics I have seen in at least 50 years), 2008 melt down (well done.), Obama trying to assault Romney based on whether or not he would have supported the bail out, all areas of stupidity.
It is not a contradiction. You are once again trying false equivalency.
Bob, you just said the same thing as Dave. People you disagree with are stupid, and those you agree with are smart. I understand your way of thinking – it makes it very easy to interpret election results in the way you want to interpret them. But it’s just your feeling – it has “truthiness” to it, as Colbert would say.
Ron, nobody plays the blame game like the lefties. Every failed policy whether it is foreign or domestic is always someone else’s fault, usually Republicans or Bush as Libby & Celtica love to do. Your wonderful Biden put his foot in his mouth again when he said last week that the last 6 years have been really tough and the Middle Class was just getting killed. Hey Joe, who has been in charge the past 6 years? Have you or your President done anything to keep the Middle Class from getting killed?
Agent,
What are you talking about? Who said anything about placing blame?
I ask why only certain elections matter and you go off on some totally irrelevant rant.
Who is ranting Ron? You ranted for a whole paragraph and then arrogantly said, how did he get elected in 2012? He had pretty much the whole liberal media spewing his lies for 6 years and a lot of low information voters like you carrying his water. We are still waiting for you to proclaim his successes and using trumped up numbers from some government website to support your position. I wish you would open your eyes to the truth sometime and you wouldn’t have so much trouble justifying Obama to this forum.
Agent,
You were the one ranting. See how easy it is to answer someone’s question directly.
“We are still waiting for you to proclaim his successes and using trumped up numbers from some government website to support your position.”
Well, at least he would’ve used SOMETHING to support his argument, as opposed to saying things like “clearly it’s ___” or “I read ____” without bothering to attempt to support those statements.
Ron,
C’mon, you know these types don’t like reality. Quit trying to dose them with it. Let them have their Faux News vision of the world. Yes, that very “news” organization that was found by Politifact to be lying in some fashion 69% of the time. Those lies give them the fear they so much adore. Especially Agent.
So Planet, you finally jumped back in the water with your goofy posts. I am waiting on your answer on having a brand new US Senator representing the Great State of Iowa. I think it is you that got a new shot of reality up there. Perhaps some Conservatism will do some good for what ails you. By the way, Scott Walker also showed very well in Iowa when he was there. You may have to move to Illinois to find some like minded people.
Agent,
I think it’s great we have our own Michelle Bachmann/Sarah Palin up here. Gives me plenty to laugh at. #breadbags, #biscuits
Oh, and we’ve had a righty governor for awhile now, Agent. Though, he hasn’t helped implement any policies that have changed anything. Iowa has always been a good state thanks to our ag commodity driven economy.
It is too bad that your side that the majority of Iowans like Conservative values now instead of those liberals you have had for years. You and yours are now in the minority, get used to it.
And the white man will be a minority in the US in the near future. Better start getting used to that
Cybersecurity- Can you Obamacareless website ??? LMAO some more!
Hey Jack, I saw a funny but true comment on the internet on the subject of minimum wage McDonald’s workers wanting $15 per hour.
For those fast food employees striking for $15 per hour, let’s do some math. At $15 per hour, Johnny Fry-boy would make $31,200 annually. An E-1(Private) in the military makes $18,378. An E-5 Sargeant with 8 years service makes $35,067. So you are telling me Sally McBurgerflipper, that you deserve as much as those kids getting shot at, deploying for months in hostile environments, and putting their collective A$$es on the line every day protecting your unskilled butt! Here’s the deal Baconator, you are working in a job designed for a kid in high school who is learning how to work and earning enough for gas, and hanging out with their equally goofy high school pals. If you have chosen this as your lifelong profession, you have failed. If you don’t want minimum wage, don’t have minimum skills.
No. The E-1 deserves even more. Just because the military is grossly underpaid doesn’t mean all of America should be.
Do any of you guys have anything thoughtful to say – or do you just prefer name calling? Do you wonder why intelligent college grads are not flocking to the insurance agency business?
Robert, unfortunately, many of the bloggers on this site are employees of companies or brokers and agree with the leftist Progressive mantra. Agents like myself are Conservatives who put them in their place. I am not sure there are many intelligent college graduates these days to enter the agency business.
Agent,
That was your response to Robert? Just re-read your post and tell us what you said that was thoughtful and not name calling.
Just calling them as I see them Ron. You don’t like the truth much. Isn’t it you who always act so shocked when info comes out that doesn’t fit your belief system? You claim before everyone that you are an Independent. If you are, I am shocked that you don’t join other Independents who give Obama the same low marks Republicans do. All I ever get from you is that you have disagreed with “some” of his policies. You should be outraged.
By the way, the latest gaffe prior to the Superbowl. The President is proud to be making beer in the White House. He said that George Washington made beer in the White House. The only thing wrong with that is that there was no White House when Washington was President.
Hey Ron – as a fellow Independent, I would like to thank you for having your own mind and deciding how you feel on various topics regardless of what any political party believes.
…after all, if all Independents believed it was wise to jump off a bridge into shark-infested waters, you don’t have to follow suit just because you’re an Independent. That theory works for all parties: you can be a Dem or Repub and disagree with any of your party’s beliefs and still consider yourself a Dem or Repub.
Thank you Rosenblatt. Unfortunately Agent cannot grasp that concept.
Agent,
What truth? If there is so much truth, then provide facts and data to support your truth.
Nothing shocks me.
Please tell me how being outraged would fix anything. You mean like the Tea Party that acts so outraged, but accomplishes nothing.
Rosenblatt, I seem to remember you saying you didn’t vote for Obama or Romney in the last election. Apparently you weren’t swayed at all to even vote or did you vote for a silly Libertarian? Ron was persuaded to vote for Obama as he admitted. He apparently didn’t wade too deep into the lies and believed this was going to be the most transparent administration in history.
Agent – what the h3ll does who I did or didn’t vote for have ANYTHING to do with this conversation? All I said was I agree with Ron that you can be affiliated with a party and still not agree with that party 100% of the time. Who I voted for is irrelevant.
Rosenblatt, what amazes me is that you and Ron don’t seem to know how to tell right from wrong when deciding who to support or vote for. Ron is famous for sifting through information available on candidates and then voting for Obama. That is the very definition of Progressive Independent. So what if you are disgusted with both parties and both have barnacles. If you can’t tell who stands for Progressivism and who stands for Free Market enterprise and Conservative solutions to problems facing America, then you have a big problem with your intellect.
Thank you Troll Agent for ignoring my question and insulting my intelligence even though I had not said anything insulting about or to you.
“Rosenblatt, what amazes me is that you and Ron don’t seem to know how to tell right from wrong when deciding who to support or vote for.”
I get it, Agent — if we don’t agree with who you want as President, we’re wrong. If we agree with who you want as President, we’re right.
PPS: “Ron is famous for sifting through information available on candidates and then voting for Obama.”
(Start sarcasm) — HOW DARE YOU RON!!! You reviewed all the information you could and decided to cast your vote for someone Agent didn’t think should be President? You are horrible.
Rosenblatt:
We get it Rosenblatt, he can’t tell you something is a bad choice, without first agreeing with you in the choice made. That is a contradiction.
You have made it so there is an impossibility that he can ever question your voting habits, whereas you can question his often.
In saying that your choice was bad, it by default, has to be a choice he didn’t support.
For God’s sakes, you really are showing your true colors, as well as ignorance.
There is right and wrong. Let’s just accept that. One party is better than the other. Let’s just accept that, until it changes.
And as for the arrogance here between you and Ron:
Neither of you have your own mind. You disregard good politics, due to equally disregarding all politics.
False equivalency. It is always that.
When republicans and democrats block bills they are equally bad, so the republicans trying to repeal the healthcare act we put in place must be bad right?
Republicans and democrats are equally bad, so when republicans do something you want (tax cuts, spending cuts) they are equally as bad as democrats unless they pass the opposite of what you want in a compromise (in other words, your false equivalency will not allow spending cuts and tax cuts to occur).
You are basically people who like to be contradictory (not to be confused with people who like to actually question things with a legitimate reason, you question it for often no purpose other than false equivalency), not moderates.
In the healthcare one I assumed you would know what I mean:
Neither of you want the healhtcare act in place, neither of you want it repealed in the name of trying to use false equivalency to say that republicans would be playing politics in voting on it currently, what you would consider to make them corrupt.
So the timing on voting on it is the issue there then…And it makes little to no sense. Voting on an issue is often solely with the concept of keeping the issue alive, so people will vote based on it to get the item done.
So that marks two issues, that your moderate contradictory behavior has disallowed you from having an affect regarding.
How many others are there I wonder?
What is the point in being a moderate, if you can’t get crap in place? If you can’t vote in a manner to get what you want?
Clearly, your voting is the issue. Clearly, your methods are the issue, and aren’t getting you what you want. And you blame both sides for all issues, when you don’t get a single issue. The problem here is to get that single issue, you need to allow a side to do it. You can’t blame a side when you refuse them the ability to do what you want.
Sure bob, whatever you say. Keep pretending you know me and keep telling me what I believe and why I act the way I do.
Don’t bother to actually ask me my opinion on things or why I did what I did – just keep assuming you’re so freaking smart you know exactly what’s going on in my head.
PS: “One party is better than the other. Let’s just accept that, until it changes.”
I do not accept that.
I’m sorry Rosenblatt, are you still on the “you don’t know me” argument?
I do know Ron’s position on the matter. I included you both as you are both similar.
The way Ron votes indefinitely goes against getting what he wants.
The fact that you think of both parties as exactly equal is ignorance. End of story. They are not exactly equal.
You both don’t like the healthcare law if I’m not mistaken. But you both are not ok with republicans repealing it.
You didn’t vote for the republicans who had alternate ideas during that election, and hold them responsible for both the passage of the healthcare law, and the inability to remove it.
By making everything “equal” and refusing to put the proper party at fault, you are BOTH single handidly responsible for the stimulus, for the taxing and spending going on with Obama, and for the healthcare law you don’t support.
If you voted the other way, we would not have had a stimulus. We would not have had that healthcare law you don’t support.
I know it’s hard to admit that you vote like an idiot. But you do.
You solely want to believe both parties are equal to believe you vote better informed than other idiots (like Agent).
You aren’t special. Get over it.
Right now republicans are the way to go.
Dividing the vote, divides the ability to get things done.
“I’m sorry Rosenblatt, are you still on the “you don’t know me” argument?”
Yes. When you stop incorrectly assuming you know everything about me, I’ll stop pointing out where you’re wrong.
“The fact that you think of both parties as exactly equal is ignorance. End of story. They are not exactly equal.”
I NEVER SAID THIS. I SAID BOTH PARTIES HAVE ISSUES AND SOME OF THOSE ISSUES ARE THE SAME. I NEVER SAID THEY WERE EQUAL.
“You both don’t like the healthcare law if I’m not mistaken.”
YOU ARE MISTAKEN. I LIKE THE LAW. YOU DON’T KNOW ME.
“You didn’t vote for the republicans who had alternate ideas during that election, and hold them responsible for both the passage of the healthcare law, and the inability to remove it.”
I DON’T HOLD THE REPUBLICANS RESPONSIBLE FOR ACA PASSING. ALSO, I SAID I DIDN’T VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT, BUT I DID VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS. AGAIN, YOU SAYING I DIDN’T VOTE REPUBLICAN IS WRONG – YOU DON’T KNOW ME.
“By making everything “equal” and refusing to….”
AGAIN. YOU ASSUME I THINK THE TWO PARTIES ARE EQUAL. I NEVER SAID THAT. I DON’T THINK THAT. YOU’RE WRONG HERE TOO.
“I know it’s hard to admit that you vote like an idiot. But you do.”
SINCE I VOTED REPUBLICAN LAST ELECTION, APPARENTLY YOU AND AGENT VOTED LIKE IDIOTS TOO.
“You solely want to believe both parties are equal..”
WRONG. I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS.
Listen bob. This is the 3rd time I am asking something VERY simple of you: DON’T TELL ME WHAT I BELIEVE OR WHAT I THINK.
Clearly you’re way off base on your assumptions, so just stop assuming things about me and not taking my words at face value and we’ll be fine. Simple.
I’m quite capable of speaking for myself. Don’t talk for me, especially when you’re saying things that aren’t true. Just stop.
College grad and intelligent doesn’t really have to coincide. I have 2 producers that don’t have college degrees and they both figured out Obamacareless was a failure simply by knowing the principles of insurance. And the one guy that works for me with a Masters thinks it will work. Proof again you can’t fix stupid and that those degrees simply means you went to school.
Hey Jack, remember Stan? He had three degrees and couldn’t find a job for two years. Of course, it didn’t help that he was a raving lunatic for Obama and Obamacareless. He was practically foaming at the mouth. He just couldn’t understand why an employer wouldn’t hire him. It was all about attitude and his agenda.
Rosenblatt, your temper is getting the best of you. How about you and Ron putting on your thinking cap for a change and smell the coffee? Can you think without a website or does that give you a migraine? If I were following the dictates of Progressive thought, I would have a permanent migraine for having to defend it all day every day.
Hi Troll Agent! I won’t sarcastically speak for Ron, but me so stoopid I can’t find me thinkers cap! Me no ever think. All websites give me migraines – I still can’t figure out how to post proper replies on this site, maybe you help dumb me get smartzers?
Hi Troll Rosenblatt & Ron, it does no good for Bob and I to try to educate you since you are so mired in Progressive thought that you can’t see the forest for the trees. Your hero Obama has run up a debt of just about $8 Trillion in 6+ years, more than all Presidents combined in the history of the country and somehow that is ok. He criticized Bush when he was running and said it was unpatriotic to run up the debt and conveniently failed to mention we had 9/11 to deal with during that time. I wonder what Obama would have done if the same thing happened under his watch. Let me guess, we apologize Al Quida. Please don’t do it again.
Yeah dink, he’s my Obama even though you know I didn’t cast a single vote for him in either election. Try trolling harder
I just don’t understand the way of the world. Republicans/conservatives place the blame on Obama for everything and anything. It’s his fault that the world is falling apart. Yet, the same folks are constantly moaning about “government interference” in all aspects of day to day living.
The many of the loudest critics of the way the war of terror is being fought never served day one in the fight. They know not the consequences and repurcussions our troops suffer under upon coming home. Yet there call is for more troops all over the world. The American Sniper suffered mightily for his service.
Frankly, I am tired of all of it. Let’s bring the troops home and let those in the far off places just eradicate themselves. Oops,I forgot about the oil!!! Yes children, oil is why we are trapped in this mess. If there was no oil in the middle east, where would we be? Deep in the heart of TX, ND, OH, PA, ad infintum
Jade, are you jaded? It might surprise you to know that the loudest critics of the war on terror did serve in the military including myself and many on this blog. Vietnam was far bloodier that Iraq and Afghanistan has been. Veterans were then spat upon when they returned home, called baby killers and every other vile name.
I do agree that we can do without Middle East oil because we have more than they do in proven reserves and it should be fully developed so we can thumb our nose at the shieks. All we have to do is get this President off the industry’s back and go drill it. Drill, baby, drill.
Shawn Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheney. The list goes on.
Cheney stated he had other things or something else to do and he was in the VN era. Go figure. Not all Viet Vets were treated badly. Remember My Lai!
MSNBC, CNBC,CBS,ABC,NBC,NPR,CNN, the list goes on an on with left wing commentators spewing their rhetoric. You are lucky we have Fox and the Conservative internet or we would already be Cuba or Venezuela.