Obama said he recognized there was no return to the days of President Franklin Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill deciding the world’s fate while “sitting in a room with a brandy.”
No not anymore…
Now he gets to pick the most anti- American anti-Constitution folks like Janet Napalitano to protect us against the terrorists of the world.
Janet is a specialist at removing all road blocks, at all borders. Arresting illegal criminalians would be Anti-Family…That is a good one…
Also I agree would should never use the word terrorist any more….lets use the phrase “man made disasters”, that is what she calls the events like 9-11…
He is doing a great job!
Maybe he should start drinking brandy!
It’s no wonder that the European countries like Obama. They’re welcoming him into their socialist club. I’m afraid for our country and don’t know how it’s going to survive four years of President Telepromter.
Yes he is leading like no other President in American History…
1.) Begging the Chinese to keep buying our US Treasury notes.
2.) Begging the Iranians & North Koreans to not be bad.
3.) Throwing Trillions at entitlement programs.
4.) Showing the youth of America that to be a leader you must first learn how to beg.
5.) Destroying what is left of our Capitalist system…Nice one big boy!
I hate to see the day when we are bombed by some country and he asks the UN what he should do…
Come on January 2012…please help us out…get here quickly!
It is 2009 and based on the comments posted, some of you are still in the dark ages. It continues to be a sad day in America when Americans who have been blessed with so much still cannot free themselves from being narrow minded and selfish. Grow up! Start thinking rationally. We have been dummied down so-to-speak for the last eight years and after the mess we are in, some of you still just doesn’t get it.
I don’t expect everyone to love our duly elected President, but is it not a shame when the rest of the world can respect this man and some of us in this country can only spew hatred from our lips?
He has represented this country very well at the G20 and as long as he does not read any of this mess that is written about him and stay focused, all of you will have to eat your own words when this country recovers under his leadership.
That is a term I can get used to and hope to see a lot of. None of the previous posts have pointed out one specific fact about anything Obama has done that has lessened the condition of this country as it is today. It’s all paranoia. Maybe you have short memories but we can all point to a number of things the last guy and the prior majority is responsible for: Wasting an unprecedented surplus, puting in a tax cut for a lucky few Americans which had no positive affect on the economy, wasting the international good-will and empathy most of the civilized world held towards us after 9/11, outing a CIA agent, just to name a few. There is so much of “the big bad Obama is going to change life as we know it, or make us all where Mao suits” with nothing to back it up. At least we have someone who listens, who reads, and who can at least rub two sticks together. We now have a better chance to rely on other civilized nations to help us combat terrorism now that we have someone with a brain in his head. Wouldn’t it be nice not to be the lone country to clean up what should have been done in Afganastan over the last 8 years? Bushes handy work will make it difficult to bring in other nations to help us out. Building concensus with other nations (whether we like them or not) will help us.
There’s that word. Life isn’t “fair.” People are unequal. Some have more ability and ambition than others and have more success. Our new goal is to remove any incentive to succeed. You make it, they will take it. No inheritance because it’s not “fair.” No rich people because that’s not “fair.” Everyone equally miserable. Sounds like the Soviet Union under Stalin. It’s going to be a scary four years.
Yes, closing Gitmo will be GOOD for the war on terror. Wait, sorry…we can’t “War on Terror” now. Plus Iran, Venezuela and North Korea will start to like us now because we’ve asked them to play nice.
At one time America defined the word success. Everyone wanted to live the American dream of becoming successful and being rewarded accordingly. It is a sad day in America when financial success is penalized instead of encouraged.
Dear Nobody important: What specifically has happened to you, your situation, or someone you know to minimize what you have? The one thing I can point to is the new tax credit under the stimulus bill that will take affect this year:
In 2009 and 2010, there is a tax credit of up to $400 for individuals and $800 for married couples filing their taxes jointly. You calculate your credit, subtracted from other federal taxes you owe, by taking 6.2 percent of your earned income.
So, if you are feeling less ambitious, or feel your incentive to work hard is going away, that is your problem. Nobody is doing anything to you. You really go a bit overboard with your Soviet Union thing. “It’s going to be scary for the next 4 years”. Grow up you big baby. Read a friggen newspaper.
I wonder if any of the Bushies realize that as Obama attempts to turn the tide with good will towards America, that this rising tide will also lift Bush with it. If Obama can pull off this feat, then Bush’s legacy benefits as a side effect.
Dear Texas: Tell us specifically how American success is being punished other than what your fellow TX idiot did to us all for the last 8 years.
I will agree that at one time America defined success until Bush nearly wrecked the country. Luckily he is no longer here and we can put it back together.
Read my lips David, No new attachs on our soil.(snap)
Obama’s + H. Clinton’s “can’t we all just get along stance is curtain to reduce our security”.( so weak,it’s sad)
Ya, granted Bush was a cowboy and so was Ronnie. but bad guy’s fear a cowboy with a quick draw.
Consensus building is something you talk about in a senior thesis, not the backbone of foreign policy! the USA is the single largest supporter of freedom in the world and should continue to set the tone for the world.
The part that astounds me about President Obama is his total lack of interest in leading. He wants to listen, cheerlead, give speeches and let others put agendas on the table that fit his mindset.
Whether you anti-bush folks like it or not, he did the right thing by taking an unpopular stance in the face of terrorism and we’re all safer for it.
It’s easy to be popular and keep your opinions quiet. It’s tough to make correct but unpopular decisions when you’re sitting on the world stage. Right now, I’d say “mum” is the word from Obama.
Tell me what Bush did to prevent no new attacks on our soil? Did he increase port security? No. Did he increase security at water treatment, electrical, nuclear power plants? No. The TSA at airports? Maybe he gets some credit for that but have you seen that process at work?? What Bush did was invade another country (which had 0 to do with 9/11) with no exit plan. He let Osama go when he had him on the run. He failed to measure the level of tribal hatred among the Iraqi people who live there and allowed the stupid war to engulf our under-equiped and undermanned military in a civil war. He did start the division of Homeland Security but that was an idea presented to him in 2001 by the outgoing Clinton administration. 9/11 forced him into that decision. The reason we had no attacks on our soil is that the terrorists in Iraq (who were not there before the war) had plenty to shoot at without planing something in the US…especially when the mis-managers of the war fired all Bath party members and created the insurgency. Your cowboy mentality is good in the movies but doesn’t work in reality. Ronnie would not have gotten us into the mess Bush got us in.
Consensus gets people on your side. Just ask the first George Bush about his success in the gulf war. Obama has barely been there long enough to measure his success. The people who want to rewrite history have already written him off. Bush’s stances were not only unpopular but poorly thought out. Give Obama a chance. “Mum” is not the word…”Premature” is.
But THE attack didn’t have to happen at all. Thank you, Mr. Bush for ignoring August 6,2001 memo warning of Bin Laden’s intent to strike inside the U.S.
While the war in Iraq may be considered a “mistake” in hindsight, it was approved OVERWHELMINGLY by Congress (even HillDog supported it, and I’d wager that you did as well). Bush was presented with evidence that showed Saddam Hussein posed a danger to the world, as well as to his own people. Had he done nothing about it, he would have been criticized for not taking a stronger stand.
Were mistakes made? Definitely. However, even you would have to concede that we are winning the war. Say what you want about Bush, but the people of Iraq are better off because of him.
Since you’re so knowledgeable about said memo, then you’re obviously aware of Clinton not taking out Bin Laden when he had the chance, correct? He made a speech talking about the danger that “Usama Been Laiden” posed but never did anything about it.
David – You’re able to find plenty of fault with the prior administration, and I’ll be the first to agree that Bush wasn’t great. I’m still waiting to know what this consensus building gets us, besides a watered down position. More $$ support for an already weak UN? More support for US natural catastrophies? More support in backing down N. Korea, Iran, the Taliban? A financially proven template to universal healthcare? More countries helping to feed the world? I’m all ears…
The old saying is those who know what to do will do it. Those who don’t know what to do build consensus.
Please be sure to post your excuses and apologies in 4 years. We’ll all be waiting.
The “evidence” for the war was mainly based on the words of a defector who wanted Hussien gone. The Bushies cherry picked inteligence (mainly put together by under secretary of Defense David Fieth) to strenthen their flimsy case. Google General Tommy Frank’s opinion about Fieth – It’s funny. The setup was all sadly discovered in hindsight. Waht is real sad is how badly the war was mis-managed by Rumsfeld. When your President tells you it’s time to go to war, you want to believe him. But manipulating the public’s fragile psyche from 9/11 to make the case is wrong. Maybe we should not be so gullible next time.
You have no specifics to back up your arguments about what Obama is doing is wrong. No examples, no evidence…nothing. It’s a lot of paranoia. If you like feeling that way then enjoy yourself. All I am saying is give the guy time to do what he has to do. I have not made any predictions either. But, given the train-wreck we went though the last 8 years, it has to be a lot better. I will be waiting for you in 4 years too.
>All that needs to be said. Obama is a socialist, plain & simple. No intelligent person can refute that.
I’m not a liberal and am fairly intelligent but obviously cannot hold a candle to your keen intellect. Bush started the socialist ball rolling. Obama is merely cleaning up Bush’s mess.
David – Thanks for making my point about the misconceptions the left have about success. You, much like President Obama believe in nothing. You don’t know what he stands for, but your dislike of the past led you to him.
The distrust you hear from the “right wing” here is based on his lack of clear and positive positions and leadership. Clearly he talked a good game during the election, but since then nothing…
See you in 4 years. I’ll be the one saying “we told you so…”
You are correct that Bush started the socialist agenda but Obama is cleaning up nothing. Obama is nothing more than a puppet for psycho socialists who put him in power, mainly George Soros. Anyways bringing up Bush is pointless since he is not in power anymore so move on to an argument that involves something worthwhile. Also you are an obvious liberal but either too stupid to realize it or just unwilling to admit it.
Sarah…the paranoid people on this site seem to like to stay that way. There is nothing we can do to change them.
Saying Obama is a socialist does not make it so. But, if some people say it enough times, pretty soon everyone will believe it. Ask Carl Rove…tell enough lies about the opposition and pretty soon everyone will believe it.
No, I was responding to your accusation that Bush should have prevented 9/11 by acting on an extremely vague memo handed to him on August 6th. I pointed out that Clinton also did not take out Bin Laden when he had the chance. To say that “Bush didn’t go after him after 9/11” is a bit of a misstatement; just ask all of our Special Forces on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border that have been putting their lives on the line for 8 years.
By putting us on the defense instead of the offense, we’re just opening ourselves up to another attack. You can’t “make nice” with people who are willing to blow themselves up in order to kill innocent civilians.
No one said Soros rigged the election you moron. Typical liberal misquoting someone to serve your own needs. Soros appreciates the brain dead such as yourself because you get so caught up with just having to tie your shoelaces everyday that you don’t realize what he is up to. But since MSNBC tells you what you should think and how to act it makes your life quite simple. It must be fun to be a sheep. So ignorant, so naive.
David: You are right he isn’t doing anything wrong, nor is he doing anything right. That’s what he does best; nothing. Check his voting record in the Illinois Senate. His “Not Voting” far out way either the “Yes” or “No” votes. You cannot be a world leader and have no definitive opinion nor take a stand on issues. You are not allowed to be a “fence-rider”. One of the main issues he took a stand on was abortion. To me that is the one issue he should have abstained from having an opinion about. In speaking about his 9 year old & 6 year old daughters at the time, Obama was quoted as saying, “I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.” What if his granfather had told his mother at the time of her pregnancy with him that he didn’t want her punished with a baby? We wouldn’t be commenting because he would have been aborted!
Hey Stan: Hey Mr. left-wing phyco conspiracy monger, chill out. Relax, your world it not going to end. Calling me names doesn’t make your point any more valid. It just shows you probably don’t trust your arguments. Maybe you should spend the weekend out in the back yard building your bunker. Have a nice weekend, my friend.
Socialism – any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
Capitalism – : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
Both definitions courtesy of Merriam-Webster.
Based upon the above definitions, and you can come up with your own, tell me which of President Obama’s current bills would fall in which definition? Please explain to this simpleton why President Obama is a capitalist?
Vlad, you are definitely not a simpleton! You’ve hit the nail on the head!!! I don’t believe any of the Socialists supporting Obama can argue with this!
Nice Vlad. You have just proven to us that you can use a dictionary. You can read. Nice. Tell me, what tools of industry does the Government currently control? Don’t give me a bank bail-out to prevent more financial melt-down or an auto company bail out to keep people working and food on the table. What production decisions of a major company, or any company, is the government currently making? What wealth are they taking away from you and me and distributing to the rest of the country? Oh yeah, there is a $400 per individual/$800 tax credit per individual in the stimulus bill for people making less than $150K. Oh, how socialist! Putting up dictionary definitions proves nothing. Actual facts and events that have (not may happen) prove your point. Go home. It’s late.
David, I have no idea what you are talking about. I don’t believe that this man has a clue and neither do you. I wonder about the Bush tax cuts that are due to expire. This will hurt me. I am not rich, but I will soon take less money home. I don’t think we are more secure and I have no confidence that the current administration understands commerce, economics or defense. I’m scared for the future of this country since it has been turned over to this empty suit. Is that enough for you or do you want to continue kissing Obama’s &*().
I hate to tell you this DaTrooth, but the world leaders are laughing at Obama right now. This empty suit spoke a lot, mostly about what a bad country we have been. He accomplished nothing. The countries that hated us still due and they respect us as a world power even less. We may well not be the leader of the world in 4 years if those on this site are representative of the world knowledge of the administration. It was a good Friday article to give everyone the opportunity to vent on something.
I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don’t criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can’t let the numbers pass by
because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of
this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you’re
going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of
$250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.?
If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action,
the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable
I really dont care what europe thinks of us with regards to Iraq and Afganistan. Those white flag waving countries are filed with towel heads planning attacks on England, France, Spain and Germany. I think that Tourchering a terrorist planning on attacking us is fine If hooking up one raghead terrorist prisoner’s testicles to a car battery to get the truth out of the lying little camel shagger will save just one American life, then I have only three things to say:
1. Red is positive
2. Black is negative
3. Make sure his nuts are wet.”
regarding how our complacence and special attention to special interest resulted in the downfall of entire economies. Our lawmakers took campaign money and then pushed crooked economic principles down our throats and who paid? The planet.
I hope for change, in the form of government accountability. I hope for change regarding the elimination of earmarks as usual. I hope for change such that one day government actions will be transparent. I hope for change so that a candidate is not allowed to outspend his opponent by three to one, and buy the white house.
First, thank you, Prouder American for your kind response. I do consider myself simple in this respect, for me to understand any concept, I must first break it down to its most simpe terms.
David, since you are the only one to respond, (however, you did not answer my specific question) I will answer your questions.
1) Tell me, what tools of industry does the Government currently control?
They just fired the CEO of GM and are threatening to fire bank executives.
2) What production decisions of a major company, or any company, is the government currently making? GM and Chrysler gave a specific plan to the government for aid and were rejected.
3) What wealth are they taking away from you and me and distributing to the rest of the country? Bush tax cuts will expire. The death tax will be reinstated. Cap and trade of carbon credits will increase any carbon based fuel i.e. coal, petroleum and natural gas. Smokes went up .80 a pack.
4) Oh yeah, there is a $400 per individual/$800 tax credit per individual in the stimulus bill for people making less than $150K. I will bet you will hire zero people with your $400 tax credit. If the Bush tax cuts stayed in effect, I would bet at least one job would be created by a small business that would benefit from the tax cut.
We’re waiting Dave. You asked Vlad some questions and he gave you legit, straight answers. Don’t go off on some ignorant rant and change the subject. I’m excited to hear your attempt at a rational rebuttal.
I think I just threw up in my mouth a little after reading that.
Obama said he recognized there was no return to the days of President Franklin Roosevelt and British Prime Minister Winston Churchill deciding the world’s fate while “sitting in a room with a brandy.”
No not anymore…
Now he gets to pick the most anti- American anti-Constitution folks like Janet Napalitano to protect us against the terrorists of the world.
Janet is a specialist at removing all road blocks, at all borders. Arresting illegal criminalians would be Anti-Family…That is a good one…
Also I agree would should never use the word terrorist any more….lets use the phrase “man made disasters”, that is what she calls the events like 9-11…
He is doing a great job!
Maybe he should start drinking brandy!
Obama is wrecking America.
It’s no wonder that the European countries like Obama. They’re welcoming him into their socialist club. I’m afraid for our country and don’t know how it’s going to survive four years of President Telepromter.
Yes he is leading like no other President in American History…
1.) Begging the Chinese to keep buying our US Treasury notes.
2.) Begging the Iranians & North Koreans to not be bad.
3.) Throwing Trillions at entitlement programs.
4.) Showing the youth of America that to be a leader you must first learn how to beg.
5.) Destroying what is left of our Capitalist system…Nice one big boy!
I hate to see the day when we are bombed by some country and he asks the UN what he should do…
Come on January 2012…please help us out…get here quickly!
It is 2009 and based on the comments posted, some of you are still in the dark ages. It continues to be a sad day in America when Americans who have been blessed with so much still cannot free themselves from being narrow minded and selfish. Grow up! Start thinking rationally. We have been dummied down so-to-speak for the last eight years and after the mess we are in, some of you still just doesn’t get it.
I don’t expect everyone to love our duly elected President, but is it not a shame when the rest of the world can respect this man and some of us in this country can only spew hatred from our lips?
He has represented this country very well at the G20 and as long as he does not read any of this mess that is written about him and stay focused, all of you will have to eat your own words when this country recovers under his leadership.
HE IS NOT A SOCIALIST. HE IS JUST FAIR.
That is a term I can get used to and hope to see a lot of. None of the previous posts have pointed out one specific fact about anything Obama has done that has lessened the condition of this country as it is today. It’s all paranoia. Maybe you have short memories but we can all point to a number of things the last guy and the prior majority is responsible for: Wasting an unprecedented surplus, puting in a tax cut for a lucky few Americans which had no positive affect on the economy, wasting the international good-will and empathy most of the civilized world held towards us after 9/11, outing a CIA agent, just to name a few. There is so much of “the big bad Obama is going to change life as we know it, or make us all where Mao suits” with nothing to back it up. At least we have someone who listens, who reads, and who can at least rub two sticks together. We now have a better chance to rely on other civilized nations to help us combat terrorism now that we have someone with a brain in his head. Wouldn’t it be nice not to be the lone country to clean up what should have been done in Afganastan over the last 8 years? Bushes handy work will make it difficult to bring in other nations to help us out. Building concensus with other nations (whether we like them or not) will help us.
Amen to that!
There’s that word. Life isn’t “fair.” People are unequal. Some have more ability and ambition than others and have more success. Our new goal is to remove any incentive to succeed. You make it, they will take it. No inheritance because it’s not “fair.” No rich people because that’s not “fair.” Everyone equally miserable. Sounds like the Soviet Union under Stalin. It’s going to be a scary four years.
What’s this article got to do with insurance? I can tune into MSNBC get the same “tingling’ sensation from Chris Matthews.
Yes, closing Gitmo will be GOOD for the war on terror. Wait, sorry…we can’t “War on Terror” now. Plus Iran, Venezuela and North Korea will start to like us now because we’ve asked them to play nice.
At one time America defined the word success. Everyone wanted to live the American dream of becoming successful and being rewarded accordingly. It is a sad day in America when financial success is penalized instead of encouraged.
Dear Nobody important: What specifically has happened to you, your situation, or someone you know to minimize what you have? The one thing I can point to is the new tax credit under the stimulus bill that will take affect this year:
In 2009 and 2010, there is a tax credit of up to $400 for individuals and $800 for married couples filing their taxes jointly. You calculate your credit, subtracted from other federal taxes you owe, by taking 6.2 percent of your earned income.
So, if you are feeling less ambitious, or feel your incentive to work hard is going away, that is your problem. Nobody is doing anything to you. You really go a bit overboard with your Soviet Union thing. “It’s going to be scary for the next 4 years”. Grow up you big baby. Read a friggen newspaper.
All RIGHT! Name calling time! I thought I was going to have to wait another 2 hours to see my kid!
Amen, Bro.
I wonder if any of the Bushies realize that as Obama attempts to turn the tide with good will towards America, that this rising tide will also lift Bush with it. If Obama can pull off this feat, then Bush’s legacy benefits as a side effect.
Just a thought– got a million of ’em…
Dear Texas: Tell us specifically how American success is being punished other than what your fellow TX idiot did to us all for the last 8 years.
I will agree that at one time America defined success until Bush nearly wrecked the country. Luckily he is no longer here and we can put it back together.
…but the editors were bored today and wanted to read the comments.
Read my lips David, No new attachs on our soil.(snap)
Obama’s + H. Clinton’s “can’t we all just get along stance is curtain to reduce our security”.( so weak,it’s sad)
Ya, granted Bush was a cowboy and so was Ronnie. but bad guy’s fear a cowboy with a quick draw.
Oh for another Ronnie.
Rewarding success? Lehman Bros., AIG, Washington Mutual, etc., etc., etc.
What success?
Just a topic to rant about…
Consensus building is something you talk about in a senior thesis, not the backbone of foreign policy! the USA is the single largest supporter of freedom in the world and should continue to set the tone for the world.
The part that astounds me about President Obama is his total lack of interest in leading. He wants to listen, cheerlead, give speeches and let others put agendas on the table that fit his mindset.
Whether you anti-bush folks like it or not, he did the right thing by taking an unpopular stance in the face of terrorism and we’re all safer for it.
It’s easy to be popular and keep your opinions quiet. It’s tough to make correct but unpopular decisions when you’re sitting on the world stage. Right now, I’d say “mum” is the word from Obama.
Tell me what Bush did to prevent no new attacks on our soil? Did he increase port security? No. Did he increase security at water treatment, electrical, nuclear power plants? No. The TSA at airports? Maybe he gets some credit for that but have you seen that process at work?? What Bush did was invade another country (which had 0 to do with 9/11) with no exit plan. He let Osama go when he had him on the run. He failed to measure the level of tribal hatred among the Iraqi people who live there and allowed the stupid war to engulf our under-equiped and undermanned military in a civil war. He did start the division of Homeland Security but that was an idea presented to him in 2001 by the outgoing Clinton administration. 9/11 forced him into that decision. The reason we had no attacks on our soil is that the terrorists in Iraq (who were not there before the war) had plenty to shoot at without planing something in the US…especially when the mis-managers of the war fired all Bath party members and created the insurgency. Your cowboy mentality is good in the movies but doesn’t work in reality. Ronnie would not have gotten us into the mess Bush got us in.
Consensus gets people on your side. Just ask the first George Bush about his success in the gulf war. Obama has barely been there long enough to measure his success. The people who want to rewrite history have already written him off. Bush’s stances were not only unpopular but poorly thought out. Give Obama a chance. “Mum” is not the word…”Premature” is.
No new attacks? True.
But THE attack didn’t have to happen at all. Thank you, Mr. Bush for ignoring August 6,2001 memo warning of Bin Laden’s intent to strike inside the U.S.
While the war in Iraq may be considered a “mistake” in hindsight, it was approved OVERWHELMINGLY by Congress (even HillDog supported it, and I’d wager that you did as well). Bush was presented with evidence that showed Saddam Hussein posed a danger to the world, as well as to his own people. Had he done nothing about it, he would have been criticized for not taking a stronger stand.
Were mistakes made? Definitely. However, even you would have to concede that we are winning the war. Say what you want about Bush, but the people of Iraq are better off because of him.
Since you’re so knowledgeable about said memo, then you’re obviously aware of Clinton not taking out Bin Laden when he had the chance, correct? He made a speech talking about the danger that “Usama Been Laiden” posed but never did anything about it.
David – You’re able to find plenty of fault with the prior administration, and I’ll be the first to agree that Bush wasn’t great. I’m still waiting to know what this consensus building gets us, besides a watered down position. More $$ support for an already weak UN? More support for US natural catastrophies? More support in backing down N. Korea, Iran, the Taliban? A financially proven template to universal healthcare? More countries helping to feed the world? I’m all ears…
The old saying is those who know what to do will do it. Those who don’t know what to do build consensus.
Please be sure to post your excuses and apologies in 4 years. We’ll all be waiting.
The “evidence” for the war was mainly based on the words of a defector who wanted Hussien gone. The Bushies cherry picked inteligence (mainly put together by under secretary of Defense David Fieth) to strenthen their flimsy case. Google General Tommy Frank’s opinion about Fieth – It’s funny. The setup was all sadly discovered in hindsight. Waht is real sad is how badly the war was mis-managed by Rumsfeld. When your President tells you it’s time to go to war, you want to believe him. But manipulating the public’s fragile psyche from 9/11 to make the case is wrong. Maybe we should not be so gullible next time.
You have no specifics to back up your arguments about what Obama is doing is wrong. No examples, no evidence…nothing. It’s a lot of paranoia. If you like feeling that way then enjoy yourself. All I am saying is give the guy time to do what he has to do. I have not made any predictions either. But, given the train-wreck we went though the last 8 years, it has to be a lot better. I will be waiting for you in 4 years too.
Too bad the Proud American doesn’t speak proper English!
“some of you still just doesn’t get it.”
Maybe you better go back to school! Or better yet, just eat your own words.
It’s no wonder he was elected President, with so many ignorant people to vote for him.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
-Winston Churchill
All that needs to be said. Obama is a socialist, plain & simple. No intelligent person can refute that.
Archie, you hold Clinton responsible for not taking out Bin Laden when Bush wouldn’t even go after him after 9-11? How odd. Really odd.
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>All that needs to be said. Obama is a socialist, plain & simple. No intelligent person can refute that.
I’m not a liberal and am fairly intelligent but obviously cannot hold a candle to your keen intellect. Bush started the socialist ball rolling. Obama is merely cleaning up Bush’s mess.
Now about that moronic title…
David – Thanks for making my point about the misconceptions the left have about success. You, much like President Obama believe in nothing. You don’t know what he stands for, but your dislike of the past led you to him.
The distrust you hear from the “right wing” here is based on his lack of clear and positive positions and leadership. Clearly he talked a good game during the election, but since then nothing…
See you in 4 years. I’ll be the one saying “we told you so…”
True, but the heavy 4/1 book of business is bound and we all need to let off steam.
Hard to believe, but somtimes insurance does have its dullness lullness…
>See you in 4 years. I’ll be the one saying “we told you so…”
It really doesn’t look like you’re actually waiting 4 years, it sounds like you’re saying it here and now…
Cheers up — I bet we can get another Bush in the office..
You are correct that Bush started the socialist agenda but Obama is cleaning up nothing. Obama is nothing more than a puppet for psycho socialists who put him in power, mainly George Soros. Anyways bringing up Bush is pointless since he is not in power anymore so move on to an argument that involves something worthwhile. Also you are an obvious liberal but either too stupid to realize it or just unwilling to admit it.
Sarah…the paranoid people on this site seem to like to stay that way. There is nothing we can do to change them.
Saying Obama is a socialist does not make it so. But, if some people say it enough times, pretty soon everyone will believe it. Ask Carl Rove…tell enough lies about the opposition and pretty soon everyone will believe it.
No, I was responding to your accusation that Bush should have prevented 9/11 by acting on an extremely vague memo handed to him on August 6th. I pointed out that Clinton also did not take out Bin Laden when he had the chance. To say that “Bush didn’t go after him after 9/11” is a bit of a misstatement; just ask all of our Special Forces on the Afghanistan-Pakistan border that have been putting their lives on the line for 8 years.
By putting us on the defense instead of the offense, we’re just opening ourselves up to another attack. You can’t “make nice” with people who are willing to blow themselves up in order to kill innocent civilians.
Yeah Soros rigged the whole election…more paranoia from the right-wind lunatic fringe.
No one said Soros rigged the election you moron. Typical liberal misquoting someone to serve your own needs. Soros appreciates the brain dead such as yourself because you get so caught up with just having to tie your shoelaces everyday that you don’t realize what he is up to. But since MSNBC tells you what you should think and how to act it makes your life quite simple. It must be fun to be a sheep. So ignorant, so naive.
David: You are right he isn’t doing anything wrong, nor is he doing anything right. That’s what he does best; nothing. Check his voting record in the Illinois Senate. His “Not Voting” far out way either the “Yes” or “No” votes. You cannot be a world leader and have no definitive opinion nor take a stand on issues. You are not allowed to be a “fence-rider”. One of the main issues he took a stand on was abortion. To me that is the one issue he should have abstained from having an opinion about. In speaking about his 9 year old & 6 year old daughters at the time, Obama was quoted as saying, “I am going to teach them first of all about values and morals. But if they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.” What if his granfather had told his mother at the time of her pregnancy with him that he didn’t want her punished with a baby? We wouldn’t be commenting because he would have been aborted!
Hey Stan: Hey Mr. left-wing phyco conspiracy monger, chill out. Relax, your world it not going to end. Calling me names doesn’t make your point any more valid. It just shows you probably don’t trust your arguments. Maybe you should spend the weekend out in the back yard building your bunker. Have a nice weekend, my friend.
Socialism – any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.
Capitalism – : an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market
Both definitions courtesy of Merriam-Webster.
Based upon the above definitions, and you can come up with your own, tell me which of President Obama’s current bills would fall in which definition? Please explain to this simpleton why President Obama is a capitalist?
I look forward to your responses.
Vlad, you are definitely not a simpleton! You’ve hit the nail on the head!!! I don’t believe any of the Socialists supporting Obama can argue with this!
Nice Vlad. You have just proven to us that you can use a dictionary. You can read. Nice. Tell me, what tools of industry does the Government currently control? Don’t give me a bank bail-out to prevent more financial melt-down or an auto company bail out to keep people working and food on the table. What production decisions of a major company, or any company, is the government currently making? What wealth are they taking away from you and me and distributing to the rest of the country? Oh yeah, there is a $400 per individual/$800 tax credit per individual in the stimulus bill for people making less than $150K. Oh, how socialist! Putting up dictionary definitions proves nothing. Actual facts and events that have (not may happen) prove your point. Go home. It’s late.
..its late and I’m outta here, but I will respond soon.
Before your mother un plugs your computer and you have to go to bed…..
BTW, study a little human nature when you grow up.
David, I have no idea what you are talking about. I don’t believe that this man has a clue and neither do you. I wonder about the Bush tax cuts that are due to expire. This will hurt me. I am not rich, but I will soon take less money home. I don’t think we are more secure and I have no confidence that the current administration understands commerce, economics or defense. I’m scared for the future of this country since it has been turned over to this empty suit. Is that enough for you or do you want to continue kissing Obama’s &*().
I hate to tell you this DaTrooth, but the world leaders are laughing at Obama right now. This empty suit spoke a lot, mostly about what a bad country we have been. He accomplished nothing. The countries that hated us still due and they respect us as a world power even less. We may well not be the leader of the world in 4 years if those on this site are representative of the world knowledge of the administration. It was a good Friday article to give everyone the opportunity to vent on something.
It is good to have someone representing our great United States who is not an embarassment.
Goodbye to the Duke and Duchess of Hazzard…they are not missed!
And send Cheney back to his tiger cage with the rest of his deluded paranoid followers. Grow up!
I think the vast differences in compensation between victims of the September 11 casualty and those who die serving our country in Uniform are profound. No one is really talking about it either, because you just don’t criticize anything having to do with September 11. Well, I can’t let the numbers pass by
because it says something really disturbing about the entitlement mentality of
this country. If you lost a family member in the September 11 attack, you’re
going to get an average of $1,185,000. The range is a minimum guarantee of
$250,000, all the way up to $4.7 million.?
If you are a surviving family member of an American soldier killed in action,
the first check you get is a $6,000 direct death benefit, half of which is taxable
I really dont care what europe thinks of us with regards to Iraq and Afganistan. Those white flag waving countries are filed with towel heads planning attacks on England, France, Spain and Germany. I think that Tourchering a terrorist planning on attacking us is fine If hooking up one raghead terrorist prisoner’s testicles to a car battery to get the truth out of the lying little camel shagger will save just one American life, then I have only three things to say:
1. Red is positive
2. Black is negative
3. Make sure his nuts are wet.”
I agree Sam, When did americans become such pansies? If you listen to Obama, Its our fault that terrorists wants to cut off our heads. Get a grip.
regarding how our complacence and special attention to special interest resulted in the downfall of entire economies. Our lawmakers took campaign money and then pushed crooked economic principles down our throats and who paid? The planet.
I hope for change, in the form of government accountability. I hope for change regarding the elimination of earmarks as usual. I hope for change such that one day government actions will be transparent. I hope for change so that a candidate is not allowed to outspend his opponent by three to one, and buy the white house.
First, thank you, Prouder American for your kind response. I do consider myself simple in this respect, for me to understand any concept, I must first break it down to its most simpe terms.
David, since you are the only one to respond, (however, you did not answer my specific question) I will answer your questions.
1) Tell me, what tools of industry does the Government currently control?
They just fired the CEO of GM and are threatening to fire bank executives.
2) What production decisions of a major company, or any company, is the government currently making? GM and Chrysler gave a specific plan to the government for aid and were rejected.
3) What wealth are they taking away from you and me and distributing to the rest of the country? Bush tax cuts will expire. The death tax will be reinstated. Cap and trade of carbon credits will increase any carbon based fuel i.e. coal, petroleum and natural gas. Smokes went up .80 a pack.
4) Oh yeah, there is a $400 per individual/$800 tax credit per individual in the stimulus bill for people making less than $150K. I will bet you will hire zero people with your $400 tax credit. If the Bush tax cuts stayed in effect, I would bet at least one job would be created by a small business that would benefit from the tax cut.
Thanks for the opportunity to reply.
We’re waiting Dave. You asked Vlad some questions and he gave you legit, straight answers. Don’t go off on some ignorant rant and change the subject. I’m excited to hear your attempt at a rational rebuttal.