Medical Association Calls for Americans to Stop Vaping as Illnesses, Deaths Rise

By | September 10, 2019

  • September 10, 2019 at 9:59 am
    Captain Planet says:
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    “CDC officials said some laboratories have identified vitamin E acetate in product samples and are investigating that as a possible cause of the illnesses.”

    I’m telling you, there are unknowns lurking in those concentrates. Sounds like if you use, you should stick to flowers, which can be vaped as well should you not wish to add carcinogens to your routine.

    • September 10, 2019 at 2:00 pm
      Agent says:
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      Vape heads, dope heads, what is the difference?

      • September 10, 2019 at 2:27 pm
        Captain Planet says:
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        Thank you for making my point. That one being, you truly do not know what you are talking about when it comes to this subject.

      • September 10, 2019 at 4:16 pm
        Rosenblatt says:
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        additives

        • September 11, 2019 at 8:41 am
          PolarBeaRepeal says:
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          Actually, there is NO DEFINITE CAUSE DETERMINED YET.

          And yet, Stoners already attributed the deaths to the ADDITIVES. Biased pre-judging.

          • September 11, 2019 at 9:32 am
            helpingout says:
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            They are not looking at the cannabis, rather the additives they are putting in these cartridges as it has been established that THC does not cause this illness as it is newer and THC (both flower and concentrates, wax if you don’t know what I am referring to) does not cause this again.

            Again, they are looking at the additives because that is what is concerning medical professionals… Polar your bias is showing like usual, and also your inability to read and comprehend things.

          • September 13, 2019 at 9:55 am
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            No conclusions yet.

            ‘Looking into’ does not mean ‘arrived at a conclusion’.

            WHO exactly doesn’t understand words?!

          • September 13, 2019 at 11:47 am
            confused says:
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            SEPTEMBER 13, 2019 AT 9:55 AM – PolarBeaRepeal says: No conclusions yet. ‘Looking into’ does not mean ‘arrived at a conclusion’. WHO exactly doesn’t understand words?!

            i look forward to someone posting these words as a reply to you sometime in the next 3 threads about marijuana or climate change

          • September 13, 2019 at 12:28 pm
            CommLinesAgent says:
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            “And yet, Stoners already attributed the deaths to the ADDITIVES. Biased pre-judging.”

            are you suggesting all of a sudden Marijuana is killing people? It is not biased pre-judging if the rest of us understand the history of the plant and you don’t.

          • September 13, 2019 at 3:40 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            My conclusion: deaths are not fully investigated yet. Evidence shows something is causing them that is in the vaping products…. and many of them involved marIJuana vaping.

            Conclusion: no conclusion yet, but there is a suspicion that marIJuana is somehow involved, directly or indirectly. Example: guns don’t cause deaths when someone is shot, the bullets do.

          • September 13, 2019 at 5:24 pm
            CommLinesAgent says:
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            “Evidence shows something is causing them that is in the vaping products…. and many of them involved marIJuana vaping.”

            sounds like I have heard this somewhere already. maybe when others suggested it was additives which you mocked?

          • September 15, 2019 at 11:41 am
            Captain Planet says:
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            Yogi,
            We know it isn’t the MJ. Want to know why? Take the MJ in its original form, the flowers. Vape as many of those as you want – no death as a direct result from doing so. There is something else in the concentrate, plain and simple.

          • September 16, 2019 at 6:02 pm
            PolarBeaRepeal says:
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            Capt Platitude: no, you don’t know that.

  • September 10, 2019 at 2:23 pm
    FFA says:
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    Vape heads die. Dope heads scromit.

  • September 13, 2019 at 1:59 pm
    Chris Coleman says:
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    They’re coming to take your vapes!

    Vapes don’t kill people. People who use vapes kill.

    I’m part of a well-vaped militia.

    The only way to stop a bad guy with a vape is a good guy with a vape.

    We should arm all teachers with vapes.

    “Not from my cold dead hands!”

    • September 13, 2019 at 3:50 pm
      Jon says:
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      I LOL’d. BTW did anyone else pick up on that guy’s “militia” is just a civil war re-enactment group? LOL

  • September 16, 2019 at 9:25 am
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    I’m actually shocked they are doing anything about vaping. I asked my Chemo doctor why smoking was still legal (I’m not a smoker) as many of the people in my Chemo room were current or former smokers. He said there was positively no way the government would ever allow a complete ban of cigarettes for one reason; The economy. Smoking creates tens of thousands of jobs for doctors, nurses, pathologists, surgeons etc. etc., not to mention the other folks working in the hospital or associated facilities. Ban smoking and in a decade, you lose tens of thousands of well paying jobs. I was blown away he had the guts to actually say that, but he also added he would rather lose his career and see people live healthier lives.

    So if smoking isn’t going away, will they ever ban vaping? It is apparently causing the same effect.

    • September 16, 2019 at 1:50 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Wow. One of the most cynical positions I have ever read. Meanwhile, anyone in favor of keeping THC illegal is crucified for suppressing “freedom” while the Pot Fans argue about new jobs and additional taxes. (Here it comes, the dumb response: “Pot never killed anyone”. Ignoring completely the traffic deaths, suicides, permanent mental illness, loss of IQ, and violence associated with THC . . .)

      • September 16, 2019 at 2:58 pm
        Jon says:
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        You would claim that pot kills people, and yet deny that firearms do? You’re displaying selective logic, in which you only apply logic to things you feel like applying them to based on personal bias, not evidence.

        • September 16, 2019 at 9:10 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          How many mass murders were committed by a gun without a person pulling the trigger?

          • September 16, 2019 at 9:30 pm
            Jon says:
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            Irrelevant to the conversation, we’re talking about pot whether it can cause death or not. It doesn’t. But you’re trying to place blame like it does in the exact fashion you refuse to on the topic of Gun Violence. I’m not trying to start a gun debate with you, you’ve already lost that debate on other boards. You’re trying to deflect the conversation because you have no defense for your lack of a logical argument.

            See, Craig? I can shut you down without even being insulting. It’s just really fun and easy to insult you because you are the worst.

          • September 16, 2019 at 9:32 pm
            Jon says:
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            OOooo, I think the actual quote you used was something about if a person wants to kill people they can grab a knife and do it. So you’ve refused to blame guns in that scenario where a mass killer grabs a gun instead of a knife, but you try to blame pot for an auto accident or a suicide, or you lie about “permanent mental illness” being caused by Marijuana. Once again, your argument isn’t real, Craig. You’re just an angry, sad old man. You’re supposed to be in insurance, apply some of that critical thinking. Or are you just not that good at the insurance stuff?

      • September 16, 2019 at 4:21 pm
        Rosenblatt says:
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        People who post on this site who are in favor of legal marijuana have NOT completely ignored the negative effects of the substance; unfortunately, it does appears that you are completely ignoring the arguments we make in favor of legalization.

        • September 16, 2019 at 5:42 pm
          Craig Cornell says:
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          I see you think you speak for all people who post on this site. Newsflash: you don’t.

          • September 16, 2019 at 5:56 pm
            Craig Cornell says:
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            Then why did he make the statement if he knew it wasn’t true at all?
            Was it just the usual kneejerk reaction from Rosenblatt? (At least Rosenblatt isn’t an idiot.)

          • September 16, 2019 at 6:14 pm
            Jon says:
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            He was making a general statement. You should be familiar with them since you make them all the time. He said people who post on this site who are in favor of marijuana have not completely ignored the negative effects. That statement is true. We have not completely ignored the negative effects, we have just tried to refute psychopaths like you exaggerating the negative effects. Such as you trying to convince people that it ABSOLUTELY causes psychosis when it does no such thing. You’re using semantics to try and argue misinformation, it’s really quite easy to refute you when you act like such a simpleton :)

          • September 17, 2019 at 8:14 am
            Rosenblatt says:
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            Yes Craig, I’m very confident in that statement. I’ve read hundreds of comments about marijuana on this site and nobody – repeat – NOBODY who has posted in favor of legal marijuana here has EVER completely ignored the side effects of it.

    • September 16, 2019 at 2:09 pm
      CommLinesAgent says:
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      you need a new doctor. Also note this is his opinion. he is not “tuned in” on some conspiracy bs.

    • September 16, 2019 at 2:25 pm
      Augustine says:
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      Hmmm, how about the constitution? Any argument against smoking can be similarly made regarding a whole slew of commercial goods including but not limited to: fast food, soda, snacks, household cleaners, food additives etc. I think it is a tad naïve to solely attribute the existing legality of smoking cigarettes to the subsequent economic impact of outlawing it. To be fair, your physician’s points are legitimate, albeit a touch oversimplified. Outlawing tobacco–despite its negative health effects–would have a lot of pushback from constituents for the pure reason that it is unnecessary government over reach. Based on the above logic, the only reason 80/20 beef is still allowed in supermarkets is because outlawing it would have an adverse economic impact on the economy.

    • September 16, 2019 at 6:05 pm
      PolarBeaRepeal says:
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      The US Govt doesn’t outlaw tobacco products to keep med pros employed. Incredibly ridumbiculous comment. Do you expect ANYONE would believe such trash?!

      • September 16, 2019 at 6:12 pm
        Jon says:
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        You’re simplifying and you know it. Nice try though, hack.

  • September 16, 2019 at 6:21 pm
    Craig Cornell says:
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    Newsflash for Doctor Idiot from the American Psychiatry Association website on marijuana:

    “The use of higher potency cannabis, for longer periods of time and with more frequency, is also associated with increased risk of psychosis15.”

    And then this:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/03/06/marijuana-legalization-risks-critics-downsides-car-crashes-psychosis-schizophrenia-suicide/

  • September 16, 2019 at 6:31 pm
    Jon says:
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    You sent a broken link. Once again though, correlation is not causation. Saying something is associated with something else does not mean it causes that. You’re using this to try and spread fear for marijuana because of a personal bias. You have no interest in protecting others from a danger, you’re opposed morally to Marijuana and you want to take it away from others. You’re a fascist, is what I’m saying.

    • September 16, 2019 at 8:32 pm
      Craig Cornell says:
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      Another fact free/insight free comment from Dr. Idiot. When experts in the field like the American Medical Association and the American Psychiatry Association along with mental health experts all over the country say the THC causes psychosis, then making a “correlation” argument is beyond dense. You’re a moron, is what I am saying.

      • September 16, 2019 at 9:28 pm
        Jon says:
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        Craig Cornell says:
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        I see you think you speak for all MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS. Newsflash: you don’t.

        You called out Rosenblatt for generalizing and speaking for others and then less than three hours later did the same thing. There’s a word for people who do things like that, I think it begins with an H and ends in an “it” sound, does anyone know what I’m talking about?

        You made leaps and bounds with that statement. You’re saying “experts all over the country” but you continually cite one study in particular where a chief scientist said that marijuana “may” cause psychosis. You’re not claiming that my argument is dense but offer no actual argument aside from generalizations and exaggerations. You really want to seem like you know more than anyone in the room. Too bad you don’t.

      • September 17, 2019 at 8:17 am
        Rosenblatt says:
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        Craig cited “also associated” but then wrote “THC causes psychosis”

        These two statements are not the same Craig!

        As Polar once wrote (edited words in asterisks to fit this scenario):

        SEPTEMBER 13, 2019 AT 9:55 AM – POLARBEAREPEAL SAYS: ***ASSOCIATED WITH***’ DOES NOT MEAN ‘***CAUSES***’. WHO EXACTLY DOESN’T UNDERSTAND WORDS?!



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