Interesting, I’m an Army Vet, but no one has thanked me today–not even you.
My comment is about civility, which is really lacking in our world today.
If you’re a Vet–THANK YOU for your service along side me.
John – let me be the first – THANK YOU for your service. And to all men and women who served their country – defending the flag – THANK YOU.
I guess I was just a little peeved by the story; the fellow gets paid off for not suing. But why couldn’t he have simply ‘pretended’ to show his creativity, instead of using an actual flag? Seems more grandstanding than educating. IMHO, of course.
Sorry Jon you are the one being dense. the point Jack was making (I believe) was that it’s cool now, “progressive”, to be anti Christian, anti-patriotic, anti heterosexual. He’s right in stating the double standard. Atheists and homosexuals scream “accept me” while not accepting you, the Christian heterosexual and probably patriotic, for not being like them. Believe that was the point.
Protip: You should probably make sure your spelling/grammar are above reproach if you’re going to make snarky comments about someone’s intelligence.
May 9, 2013 at 2:18 pm
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Please “stupid”, you are horribly misrepresenting positions held by athiests and homosexuals. There are no athiest organizations which will not allow people of faith to be members. Many faith based organizations refuse to admit athiests. Gay organizations are also open to heterosexual members and couples. Again, there are many faith based organizations which refuse to allow homosexuals to be members.
Yes, athiests and homosexual are fighting for equal treatment under the law, something they have been denied since the founding of the country. This is not a failure to accept Christians and comments like yours implying that it is are misinformed.
Remember, a militant muslim plants a bomb, a militant christian kills an abortion provider but a militant athiest writes a book.
The sad thing is that the school dist. will not put this incident in his folder and will probable give him a good recommendation for fear if they don’t they will get sued.
“You want free speech? Let’s see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who’s standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can’t just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the “land of the free”.
Thank you safety guy! I was trying to find this quote, but couldn’t remember where it was from. I kept thinking it was from the West Wing. Probably because they both had Martin Sheen in them. ;)
The 1st Amendment protects you from being prosecuted or jailed, it does NOT prevent your employer from firing you. If a clerk at a store uses a racial slur or foul language when addressing a customer, it may be free speach and he can’t be arrested, but he can sure as heck be fired.
Yes, stepping on the flag should not get you arrested, but it should also NOT be consequence free, especially when done in the workplace. The fact that our society has devolved so far as to actually pay this jerk off for NOT suing is really sad.
The flag itself, is just a piece of fabric, and until someone fashions it into a flag, it will remain a piece of fabric. I applaud this teacher, and his teaching method. He was making a point. What was wrong is that he was asked to resign. What our schools are wanting to turn out anymore are not free-thinking, individuals, what they are trying to turn out are automatons, who will follow the leader without thought and not argue that there may be a better way. I understand the symbolism of the flag, but I also know that it in reality is nothing more than a piece of fabric, nothing more, nothing less.
Well said Secret Agent – we have no idea what the context of his lesson was or what type of idea he was trying to pass onto his students. The teacher could be someone who himself finds stomping on the flag to be an offensive act.
Free speech is protected, but I hope his foot gets cancer and rots off in protest.
Free speech is not protected. Say something against Muslems, gays or blacks and watch the hate.
Someone criticizing speech is not violating free speech.
Really?
As you stated, Free Speech is protected. We may be offended by what this person did, but your “hope” is a bit over the top (IMHO).
Dear John. I bought my VFW Buddy Poppy today and thanked the vet for his service. Did you?
Interesting, I’m an Army Vet, but no one has thanked me today–not even you.
My comment is about civility, which is really lacking in our world today.
If you’re a Vet–THANK YOU for your service along side me.
Did he have to stomp on it to get his point across? I don’t understand some people.
Only in South Carolina
in SC- you are correct, in other states he would have been given a promotion.
John – let me be the first – THANK YOU for your service. And to all men and women who served their country – defending the flag – THANK YOU.
I guess I was just a little peeved by the story; the fellow gets paid off for not suing. But why couldn’t he have simply ‘pretended’ to show his creativity, instead of using an actual flag? Seems more grandstanding than educating. IMHO, of course.
While it may be protected free speech–the teacher clearly chose the wrong place, wrong time, and almost likely, the wrong audience.
All’s well–now, back to the insurance business.
Free speech if its against the country or Christians. Hate speech if its against Muslems,blacks,homos,etc. Funny how that works.
Are you really that dense?
Free speech–IE protected from arrest, prosecution, etc by the government.
Your fellow human beings are free to decry, mock, belabor, or otherwise point out you’re being a Class-A jackhole based upon their own judgments.
Grow up.
Quit playing the victim.
By my own judgement- you are an azzhole.
Aw come on, y’all. Jack’s fallen off the barstool, is just looking for a fight and don’t mind WHO she pisses off.
Sorry Jon you are the one being dense. the point Jack was making (I believe) was that it’s cool now, “progressive”, to be anti Christian, anti-patriotic, anti heterosexual. He’s right in stating the double standard. Atheists and homosexuals scream “accept me” while not accepting you, the Christian heterosexual and probably patriotic, for not being like them. Believe that was the point.
He’s to stupid to understand that stupid. no pun intented.
Or she is just in denial.
Read :When a Nation Forget’s God
Google : Agenda- Grinding Down America and watch it
They both hit the nail on the head.
*He’s too stupid to understand that, stupid.
Fixed it for you.
Protip: You should probably make sure your spelling/grammar are above reproach if you’re going to make snarky comments about someone’s intelligence.
Please “stupid”, you are horribly misrepresenting positions held by athiests and homosexuals. There are no athiest organizations which will not allow people of faith to be members. Many faith based organizations refuse to admit athiests. Gay organizations are also open to heterosexual members and couples. Again, there are many faith based organizations which refuse to allow homosexuals to be members.
Yes, athiests and homosexual are fighting for equal treatment under the law, something they have been denied since the founding of the country. This is not a failure to accept Christians and comments like yours implying that it is are misinformed.
Remember, a militant muslim plants a bomb, a militant christian kills an abortion provider but a militant athiest writes a book.
Homos? Are you that ignorant or was it just to get a rise from someone?
Speach is free; however, don’t say “bomb” on an airplane or even in an airport, or you won’t be free for very long.
Hope he’s out of a job for a long time for showing a particular lack of good taste.
The sad thing is that the school dist. will not put this incident in his folder and will probable give him a good recommendation for fear if they don’t they will get sued.
Free speach is individual, he was at his job as an official of the school…not covered. He should have been fired on the spot with no benefits at all.
From the Movie “An American President”
“You want free speech? Let’s see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who’s standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours. You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country can’t just be a flag; the symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then, you can stand up and sing about the “land of the free”.
This seems to fit in this situation
Thank you safety guy! I was trying to find this quote, but couldn’t remember where it was from. I kept thinking it was from the West Wing. Probably because they both had Martin Sheen in them. ;)
The 1st Amendment protects you from being prosecuted or jailed, it does NOT prevent your employer from firing you. If a clerk at a store uses a racial slur or foul language when addressing a customer, it may be free speach and he can’t be arrested, but he can sure as heck be fired.
Yes, stepping on the flag should not get you arrested, but it should also NOT be consequence free, especially when done in the workplace. The fact that our society has devolved so far as to actually pay this jerk off for NOT suing is really sad.
Stomping on flags can get you fired.
Cheating and humiliating your wife and breaking up your family can get you hired as senator.
Well done, South Carolina.
Look on the bright side Celtica. Sanford is a proven expert on foreign affairs.
And immigration affairs. Is she even here legally?
The flag itself, is just a piece of fabric, and until someone fashions it into a flag, it will remain a piece of fabric. I applaud this teacher, and his teaching method. He was making a point. What was wrong is that he was asked to resign. What our schools are wanting to turn out anymore are not free-thinking, individuals, what they are trying to turn out are automatons, who will follow the leader without thought and not argue that there may be a better way. I understand the symbolism of the flag, but I also know that it in reality is nothing more than a piece of fabric, nothing more, nothing less.
Well said Secret Agent – we have no idea what the context of his lesson was or what type of idea he was trying to pass onto his students. The teacher could be someone who himself finds stomping on the flag to be an offensive act.
Just like money is a piece of metal or paper, nothing more nothing less. Or the Declaration of Independence. Or…?
Would you shout “fire” in a crowded theater? That’s “free speech” also.
We must be careful not to use our freedoms to the detriment of others.